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I think I can speak for most of the folks I know that attend the races at any track, that we don't want to see cars flipping. But for some reason Brian Ward advocates the flips at SFS. Seems that is all he can talk about lately.

Brian if you by chance are a member of this forum, please stop pushing the accidents, especially the ones in the sprint classes. You've got to know that costs the drivers and owners too much money. Some can't afford to fix the cars and return the next week to compete. And if that happens too many times then we the fans will have nothing to watch. Thus Lanny loses money and then the track closes.

My 2 cents

If thats the case he had plenty to talk about Friday. I counted 6 or 7 cars that flipped Friday and couple others that didn't flip but were just as damaging, that maybe a record for SFS. That's what you get with a lock down rutted track.

well im kinda tired of people saying its the rain. blah. i just got back from meeker and it didnt seem to have a problem at all. And when a track gets that bad to where it starts putting drivers safty in play then something needs to be done. And not with a tractor. The track friday night looked more like a garden then a track. So lets see what happens next weekend.

Dont get mad at me, im just the pushtruck guy.


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I agree with the top post. although I think B. Ward does a really good job announcing (best since his brother) ........he gets the crowd into it and I think thats great. But when it comes to spectacular sprint car crashes.........it's one of those things.....you hate it for the driver or owner, especially considering the cost of those cars. But we KNOW it IS entertaining. It's just not right to talk about it......almost as if everyone is there to see just that. had there not have been 1 flip last night it was still great racing. those cars were flying and dicing back and forth......it was just great racing. But when you ask the crowd if the flips were entertaining.......and then basically ask them to cheer for more of em. and thats exactly what happened. when he said it half the crowd looked up like what the hell. But like I said......I think he's a really good announcer......and furthermore I like him a lot more than his predecessor. But it's one thing to comment on an amazing crash.......and then have the crowd give an ovation for the drivers safety. those bad wrecks were entertaining........but not entertaining in a good way as some lost a lot of money and could have been hurt badly. thank god they weren't hurt badly........especially Gastineau or Joe Wood Jr. Gastineau's encounter with the wall was just plain scary.........

and silver fox is right.....fast track with ruts is a bad combination for the drivers.......but good for the fans. I say for the fans as the racing was great to watch. Silver fox do you own the champ sprint 14? If so congrats to your team and driver.......he navigated a difficult track with a lot of.......I guess the proper word is precision.

ALSO.......everyone talks about curfew.......I know we passed it last night.......anything gonna happen of that?

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man as much as I hate to see all that equipment tore up.........I'd much rather have a track like what we had during the FEATURES.......NOT THE HEATS..........than a dry slick freight train. I know the drivers oppose that..........but I'm pretty sure most fans would prefer cars flying around the track....passing at the same time.........than a rubber-down stick it on the bottom no passin track. I bet over 95% of the fans last night walked away stunned at the racing - not just the wrecks- that they saw.

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True. Not only that, 1 super sprint driver told Sluggo the track sucked and he tried to kick him out. Great people.lol

You people don't seem to get it. The decision has been many. The plans have been started. The drawing is up on the wall. It has been given the money. It's here and you and I can't do a thing about it.

THE OKLAHOMA STATE FAIR GROUND SPEEDWAY IS CLOSING

They are only going to spend so much money. If the track was that dangerous, why would you want to continue racing there. Go somewhere else.

That's my Opinion and I'm stick'en to it.

well this a prime example for evryone to find a new place to race. Any track. dont matter but until lanny gets it fixed noone needs to tear up their cars. even my pushtruck has problems on the track i cant even think how bad it is strapped in a race car.

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So, because the fairgrounds is closing as you put it, the track will be rough? We know you have a love for Brill's track, but come on. As long as Lanny has a contract to run the place, he will want to make money. Lanny doesn't go to the bathroom without making money. So I don't believe that he will intentionally make the track rough. As JD stated it is because of not knowing what to do and maybe even a little laziness. And you are right on one thing, Noone is holding a gun to people's heads to make them race there. Just like JD if they choose they can go elsewhere.

Dirttrack28and 29 since you know everything about SFS closing. I want you to post your info that you have. Not just by the word of your mouth but I want concrete evidence that it is. Give me links etc etc.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen 

A sign contract is a signed contract. If your contract was ending, would you spend every dime to make something perfect? I think not. Some of me past renters didn't. My point is this, The SFS track needs alot work and needs clay, sand and lime. Clay to make for smooth track, sand to allow the track to pack correctly, Lime to hold the water. Plus some other stuff. It all takes money and alot of if. No Promoter will pour that kind of money into a track that is going to be closed down. They will make do with what they have and go on. If I could afford to race at the SFS I would. It's closer. What draws me to Brills Speedway is that the track is outwardly tring to make it the best place to race and the fairness to apply the rules to one and all.

So, this I have said and so it will be written.

That's my Opinion and I'm stick'en to it.

I understand that. I am neither a Lanny hater or a Lanny lover.  Plans can be changed they happen all the time. This person comes on here and crams the stuff down our throats and I just want to know where he is getting all of is info from. I do know that something was drawn up alwhile back ago but like I said plans can change.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen 

I would like for Brian Ward to be Lawtons Track Announcer. We are stuck with A TEA DRINKING DINGALING FROM DALLAS...MY BOY MY BOY MY BOY

I'm usually the last person to stick up for the officials and front office personnel at SFS due to many ridiculously wrong calls and the fact that they completely refuse to keep the integrity of the rule book. However, this time I will stand up for them. I guess that people don't remember how much it has rained this year. Record amounts of rain = rough race tracks. I talked to Slugo this week and he said they were doing their routine track working on Thursday when a huge rain came through. Due to the rain they couldn't get on the track until Friday morning. Sure they probably could have stayed at the track until 2am on Thursday to continue working it but it wouldn't have helped much, and how would you like it if your boss wanted you to stay at work until 2 am after a whole day of work? The ground under the track is soft right now due to all the moisture, and there really isn't anything anyone can do about it. To be honest, I'll go to the races the next 3 or 4 weeks expecting a rough track. It sucks when you crash because you hit a rut wrong, but that is the risk you take every time you strap into a race car.

On the announcer issue, I could hear him under the reds getting the crowd all pumped up. It's good that we have an announcer that is passionate about racing, but it isn't cool to cheer at someone tearing up equipment and possibly their bodies.

cheese you make a good point but the thing that pisses me off is the way Lanny handeled the track. he didnt even make it better. it helped for about 2 races then went all to hell. And the reason it pisses me off is that he bitches at everyone else when we are workin our asses off to get a car off the track and then he pulls the wrong piece of equipment out and waists all that time. And i know what you are gonna say. If you dont like him then dont go, well i put up with him so that i can be a part of racing and not just a spectator. So all i really am getting at is in my opinion he didnt do the right thing to help keep the track safe and the drivers happy.

Dont get mad at me, im just the pushtruck guy.


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You are entitled to your opinion, and I think that we are actually pretty close to each other on this. We both agree that Lanny should do everything possible to get the track right. I also agree that he shouldn't have reworked the track, and most everyone that was racing knew it was going to get even worse. But what I am saying is that when we headed up to the races Friday afternoon we knew it was going to be rough due to the moisture. There were no real canyons in the track and for that I applaud the track crew.

I won't tell you to quit going out there because we all love racing on here (since it is a racing board) and none of us are just going to quit watching/racing/pushing just because a couple things don't go our way. Some people can go other places, and believe me if I had the money I would too, but I don't. I applaud Propps for bringing his boys to race everywhere he can, but that's just not going to happen with us.

Sorry about your frustration Matt. I can assure you though that all of the drivers appreciate what the push truck drivers, officials, and safety crew do week in and week out.

good post cheese. I know the rain you are referring to thursday as I was just starting to mow my lawn when it came through here.....we picked up over an inch thrusday and I KNOW the track oicked up the same b/c my g/f lives right next to it. I doubt meeker got what we did thursday from OKC on westward, but I can't be sure.

Thats interesting what you say brandon on them reworking the track......most everyone around us throughout the heays kept saying they needed to rework it, I thought the ruts were a lil better after they worked it.......but then it became much much faster and the ruts bigger as the show went on. not being sarcastic at all.....but it just shows the difference of knowledge from those chillin up in the stands and those getting beat to death inside a racecar by all those ruts. not to say peeps in the stands are dumb or anything.......I'm just saying that shows the difference between drivers and fans. me and a friend of mine were discussin that right before intermission...........we thought they should tear the track back up and then it occured to us that if the ruts still remained later...but with a faster track......yeah you get the idea.

You're right on with your post cheese. It was common sense that the track was gonna be rough........thursday's rain made it even worse. and from lookin on the web it has a chance of rain for the next 6 days. Just assuming it rain 2 or 3 times before friday night.......its gonna be rough again. The water table is just too high. My family owns a house here in El Reno thats got a real nice basement......concrete walls and very spacious as well. They have owned this house for 13 years now.......and since the water table has risen so much with all the rain......water has busted cracks in the floor of it and comes through at the rate of about 9 inches a day. Completely ruined a whole lot of antiques and railroad memorabilia of my grandfathers. lot of history lost. and now even if it doesn;t rain me or my uncle still have to go over there twice a day and pump the water out of the basement - we will be doing this for a minimum of at least 2 more weeks.....AND THATS IF THERE IS NO MORE RAIN. I say just just to give some an idea of how saturated the ground really is...........rain has everything to do with the track conditions at SFS.

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until you post that actual informationon here to back that up........you are nothing but part of the problem. so please either show us some some real stuff or quit saying it. If you have nothing to post.......then you just as much as the rest of us and nothing more. Yes we all know the Fair Board and the city want to do something else with that space........and yes we all know the Fairgrounds just got a big ol' check. But ANYTHING beyond that is speculation. speculation is alright to a point......but it almost sounds as if you want it to happen.

And man if SFS closes.......you will have bit off a hell of a lot more than you can chew. Because then there probably will be quite a few cars that will start runnin every week at Meeker......so say the car count at BMS triples.......do you really think the fan count there will triple as well?

and also.......there is a hell of a lot people can do to save SFS. But right now.......OBVIOUSLY......everything is still speculation.

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Brian is a good announcer, especially for his age. He'll learn that carnage is something that only an uneducated fan appreciates. Everyone else is far more worried about safety and dollars lost in an accident. Perhaps the next time a driver climbs out of a flip, he can talk about the cost of a chasis, radius rods, a good seat, a top wing, etc., to give the fans some perspective as to why we should all hope they remain right side up, how great the safety advances have been and how much it costs to not only run a car, but to include the safety features.

But I like Brian -- I think he has a bright future at the microphone.

"I'd pay $15 to watch a sprint car sit still."