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July 26, 2012 at
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Sprint Car Stats has updated the international
list of 2012 sprint, midget, super modified and champ car winners after Wednesday,
July 25 as Shane
Stewart (15), Jason Johnson (14), Tim Crawley (13), Wayne Johnson (12), Kyle Larson (11), Danny Smith (11), Dale Blaney (10), Dave
Darland (10), Greg Hodnett (10), Bud Kaeding (10), Jamie
Passmore (10), Brooke Tatnell (10), Billy Balog
(9), Mark Dobmeier (9), D.J Foos (9), Brady Bacon (8),
Jonathan Cornell (8), Craig Dollansky (8), Randy
Hannagan (8), Jimmy Hurley (8), Danny
Lasoski (8), Brock Lemley (8), Brian Montieth
(8), Garret
Peterson (8), Sammy Swindell (8), Brian Brown (7),
Bryan Clauson (7), Danny Dietrich (7), Tim Kaeding (7),
Bret Mellenberndt (7), Mitchell Moore
(7), Ryan Bernal (6), Kyle
Cobb (6), Robbie Farr (6), Andy Forsberg (6), Justin Grant (6), Tracy Hines (6), Danny
Holtgraver (6), Evan Margeson (6), Terry McCarl (6), Thomas Meseraull (6), Michael Pickens (6), Ross Rankine (6), Ben
Schmidt (6), Mike Spencer (6), Jon Stanbrough
(6), Stephen Allard (5), Ryan Bickett (5),
Patrick Bourke (5), Pat Cannon (5), Josh Cunningham (5), Charles Davis Jr.
(5), Lance
Dewease (5), Jack Dover (5), Kaley Gharst (5), Darren Hagen (5), Chuck Hebing
(5), Jared Horstman (5), Levi Jones (5), Lou
Kennedy Jr. (5), Kyle Miller (5), Jared Peterson (5), Bryan Sebetto (5), Tim
Shaffer (5), Donnie Steward (5), Tommy Tarlton (5),
Billy Wallace (5)
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July 26, 2012 at
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skylar prochaska has six wins
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July 26, 2012 at
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July 26, 2012 at
09:23:22 AM by MSPN
Two Posse in the top 25, hmmm, that's about right, in my and the real world.....
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July 26, 2012 at
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Posted By: MSPN on July 26 2012 at 09:22:27 AM
Two Posse in the top 25, hmmm, that's about right, in my and the real world.....
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If you weren't so dense you would be able to figure out how your attempt at an insult is completely illogical.
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July 26, 2012 at
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No insult, just a little reality which of course a moron wouldn't/couldn't understand, here's your sign....
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July 26, 2012 at
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only MSPN could turn pure stats into anti-Posse propaganda. Sorry Mike, but you may be the only person in three countries who does not consider Central Pennsylvania superior. Higher the level of competition, harder it is to dominate, generally.
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July 26, 2012 at
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July 26, 2012 at
08:22:00 PM by minthess
Shane would have at least 20 wins if he ran central PA full time....or maybe 2.
Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?
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July 26, 2012 at
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Superior at the Grove and average everywhere else, your own stats proved that......
They are the superior 410 group in the country because they have the most 410 racing, they sure haven't produced much on the national level in any class of sprint cars, from what your stats have shown over the years. I have always agreed with the local argument but that's where it ends, locally....
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July 26, 2012 at
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This message was edited on
July 26, 2012 at
11:14:42 PM by mwilaski
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Posted By: SprintCarStats on July 26 2012 at 07:55:14 PM
only MSPN could turn pure stats into anti-Posse propaganda. Sorry Mike, but you may be the only person in three countries who does not consider Central Pennsylvania superior. Higher the level of competition, harder it is to dominate, generally.
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Thank you for the dose of common sense, something MSPN wouldn't ever understand. MSPN you are a moron. How do Posse drivers have a "homefield advantage" when racing in PA but the Outlaws run at tracks in NY/Ohio etc. way more often than Posse drivers, yet this isn't an advantage the other way? Your sheer inability to use any amount of logic in your baseless conclusions is just fascinating.
PS-I think Darrah will be near the top in WoO standings sooner than later. It won't happen instantly, it took Schatz years to become the best, Saldana too. Also, if he was given the opportunity, I am certain Danny Dietrich could compete anywhere without issue, especially after experience. And Esh won his first trip ever to a NY track against the Outlaws. So if you are going to use wildly unbalanced and small sample sizes, you might want to understand their results.
PSS-Aaron Ott was competitive at several tracks outside of PA early this season. I see him getting better too. You have no leg to stand on, other than being an old man who thinks that seeing lots of races=your opinion trumps the truth.
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July 26, 2012 at
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I will take that PS bet
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July 27, 2012 at
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Ref: PSS,I think since the red paint and the gold numbers came along the wins haven't came as frequent as they did when the nose was on the grindstone so to speak,maybe the desire to win is there, but hunger to win, and being able to win are two different things.Worst saying in racing" theres always tomorrow", well brother I'll take hunger to win, over a statement like that,its a more gratifying win when you gotta do it or else, and puts you up on your game and the steering wheel.Think about that.
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July 27, 2012 at
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Dang, somebody hasn't been paying attention, skiman. The Posse has the Grove, the toughest track in the country to race on (according to virtually every Outlaw now and before) where you have seen some very strange wins over the years from locals. The rest of PAlookaville, not so much, Stats tell us the Outlaws have dominated.
Doug won filling in for Jac and it was a big one at that, but talk about using small sample sizes, that takes the cake. He has struggled more than most Posse drivers the last couple of years, how could you not know that, methinks you might not even be a PA guy, lol. I stand comfortably on both legs with Stats as my biggest ally but you may have said something I agree with you on. Cody (whom I've never said a bad word about in this forum) will be a winner in time with the Outlaws, Steve and Sammy will likely be gone but the kid is a gasser and getting better all the time. As for crashing, Brad Doty once told me nobody crashed more than he did while learning his trait, it's sometimes part of the deal.
You continue to make grandiose statements and then of course never produce any proof, it's pretty much laughable, sorry. My conclusions are based on facts/stats and I'm not dumb enough to argue a point when I don't already know the outcome, you on the other hand simply use a few big syllable words and think you're right, it's just so weak.....
Sorry to highjack the thread Mr. Eckert but it likely got twice the viewing as a result, mybad!
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July 27, 2012 at
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still waiting for Kville to develop a home field advantage?
the Lincoln home field advantage in the words of Danny Dietrick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NzL8jLCBE4
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
weather." Van May
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July 27, 2012 at
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Knoxville will never have one, I think we both know that but they will put a bunch of cars in the A at the Nationals most years, kudos to them for that.
Lincoln was a massacre for the touring boys, but history tells us that the Outlaws have dominated at the track with almost 30 wins. The Posse does have a two in a row streak going there tho'. It would be nice to see Mr. Dietrich head out to Knoxville he is awful quick in your area this year, might be the rookie of the year as Lance was a long time ago.....
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