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Sprintcars11_King
August 13, 2010 at 11:37:05 AM
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Hello All-


I am confused as to why there was only one green flag lap to finish last night's A feature? Doesn't Knoxville have the same policy as every other racetrack "Two consecutive green flag laps to complete any event? Does Knoxville do whatever the hell they want? Was someone trying to give Schatz a break?? What is the story on this? Can someone please shed some light on it for me?


Thanks!


Joe




vanh
August 13, 2010 at 11:48:36 AM
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Posted By: Sprintcars11_King on August 13 2010 at 11:37:05 AM

Hello All-


I am confused as to why there was only one green flag lap to finish last night's A feature? Doesn't Knoxville have the same policy as every other racetrack "Two consecutive green flag laps to complete any event? Does Knoxville do whatever the hell they want? Was someone trying to give Schatz a break?? What is the story on this? Can someone please shed some light on it for me?


Thanks!


Joe



I do not know for sure just what track rules you want them to follow. If knoxville puts on the biggest sprint race ever should they check with every other track before they do anything?

Most people thought that they had extra yellow laps to make sure the tire did got flat.

By the way when they are paying the biggest pay out and spending the money to put it on, yes they can do what they want to hell yes!!!



Sprintcars11_King
August 13, 2010 at 12:00:41 PM
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I respectfully disagree with you. If there is a provision in the rulebook pertaining to what is supposed to happen at the conclusion of a racing event, that is the procedure that should be followed every time!




Preabt
August 13, 2010 at 12:48:31 PM
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Posted By: Sprintcars11_King on August 13 2010 at 12:00:41 PM

I respectfully disagree with you. If there is a provision in the rulebook pertaining to what is supposed to happen at the conclusion of a racing event, that is the procedure that should be followed every time!



From Knoxville Website:

Swindell wins second qualifying night of 50th Annual Knoxville Nationals

8/13/2010 - By Stacy Ervin

It was 1983 when Sammy Swindell won his only Knoxville Nationals championship, but he put himself in great position to get No. 2 by winning the second qualifying night of the 50th Annual Goodyear Knoxville Nationals presented by Lucas Oil. The win, on Thursday, August 12, at the Knoxville Raceway in Knoxville, Iowa, was worth $12,000.

The 25-lap main event was filled with drama at the beginning and the end. It took three tries to get it started, as the first attempt came back when Mark Shirsheken spun in turn four. The second attempt saw a red flag as Luke HallLuke Hall flipped in turn one.

The third time was a charm and Swindell shot to the lead from third starting spot around front-row starters Skip Jackson and Dale BlaneyDale Blaney. Fourth starter Donny Schatz had moved to second by the fourth lap and when Swindell came to traffic at lap eight, it seemed as though Schatz was poised to make his move.

Schatz pulled alongside Swindell at lap 10, but heavy traffic played a big role and Swindell was able to pull away. That was the only serious challenge Schatz gave until things got really dramatic at the end of the race.

On the white-flag lap, Schatz began to close on Swindell again, but a caution came out when Mike MooreMike Moore slowed in turn four with a blown right-rear tire. That set up a green, white, checkered restart. Swindell got a great start and drove away from the field, but the yellow flag returned when Moore spun in turn three. As the cars circled around under caution, it was evident Schatz’s right-rear tire was down.

Under track rules, because the green, white, checkered restart did not go to the finish, the next attempt goes green, then checkered. Swindell again drove away when the green came out. The tire on the Schatz machine let him down and he was passed by second-place finisher Brian BrownBrian Brown, third-place finisher Skip Jackson and fourth-place finisher Stevie Smith. Schatz held on for fifth, and his tire exploded in turn two just after the flag.

Steve Kinser set the night’s quickest time trial of the 50 competitors with a 15.239 second lap. Heat races were won by Ricky LoganRicky Logan, Dale BlaneyDale Blaney, Lance Dewease, Jac Haudenschild and Sammy Swindell. Danny LasoskiDanny Lasoski won the C-Main. The B-Main was won by Ian Madsen, but his car went up in smoke following the checkered flag and he was not able to start the A-Main.

The fourth heat race featured a couple of nasty crashes. Cars were bumping and banging at the start. Sam Hafertepe Jr. made contact with Paul Jeffrey, which sent Hafertepe spinning. He was collected by Greg Wilson, who flipped over. Later in that race, Paul McMahan was running in a transfer spot when his right-rear tire exploded and that sent him flipping hard in turn four. He was able to make repairs and finish second in the B-Main to transfer to the A-Main. He then charged all the way from 22nd starting spot to finish seventh. Dusty Zomer, who also transferred from the B and started 23rd, finished right behind him in eighth.


SW

Sprintcars11_King
August 13, 2010 at 01:17:45 PM
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This message was edited on August 13, 2010 at 01:20:51 PM by Sprintcars11_King

Thank You for the clarification Preabt!



stab-n-steer
August 13, 2010 at 01:18:36 PM
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Well rules are rules, although I personally have never heard of such a thing?

I will however say that at the risk of sounding negative; something else you can caption in bold red letters is...

vanh is an obnoxious ass!!!

10-4




vanh
August 13, 2010 at 02:16:12 PM
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Posted By: stab-n-steer on August 13 2010 at 01:18:36 PM

Well rules are rules, although I personally have never heard of such a thing?

I will however say that at the risk of sounding negative; something else you can caption in bold red letters is...

vanh is an obnoxious ass!!!

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But you were wrong



threadkiller
August 13, 2010 at 02:48:03 PM
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The only thing worse than an asshole is one that knows he is right and most people would almost rather die than be wrong. If you are right you are right be you asshole (obnoxious ass) or not :-).



stab-n-steer
August 13, 2010 at 03:43:19 PM
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Just bustin your nuts vanh, nothing personal... Lol




vanh
August 13, 2010 at 04:13:39 PM
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Posted By: stab-n-steer on August 13 2010 at 01:18:36 PM

Well rules are rules, although I personally have never heard of such a thing?

I will however say that at the risk of sounding negative; something else you can caption in bold red letters is...

vanh is an obnoxious ass!!!

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Did not look personal to me

Thought you was talking to the guy next to me



HoldenCaulfield
August 13, 2010 at 04:26:45 PM
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I don't know of too many tracks that do the green white checkered thing, only the WOO and nascar but hey, I'm all for an extra lap.


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Jamie Klootwyk
August 13, 2010 at 05:35:43 PM
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Knoxville has always done this. First try green-white-checkered. Second attempt green-checkered. Happened earlier this year in 360 race. Nothing new here.




stab-n-steer
August 13, 2010 at 07:25:13 PM
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Posted By: vanh on August 13 2010 at 04:13:39 PM

Did not look personal to me

Thought you was talking to the guy next to me



fair enough, again no real offense intended, just an observation during my short time of participating, watching you being critical of folks that may have been emotional at the time of their post, but have asked honest questions...

guess I tried to make a funny at your expense; sorry have a good nationals... wish I was there!!

 





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