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Topic: Lance Dewease spanks Outlaws at Lernerville (and Williams Grove!!!) Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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Gage
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July 22, 2010 at 09:30:15 AM
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Posted By: origopnwhlr on July 21 2010 at 05:48:34 PM

Yeah, but you don't hear the Ohio folks talking trash like some of the Posse folks.

I think it is wonderful when a "local" can beat the big boys but you SELDOM see a local go out from home and beat them.

Big difference. Smile



You can't talk this kind of logic to these guys ; )



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Posted By: cubicdollars on July 22 2010 at 04:51:46 AM
Schatz was fast, but second feature was inverted. That is the only reason Saldana won it, that and the track went away as did passing. Dewease spanked the Outlaws. As have Stevie Smith and Ed Lynch in recent years. The World of Also Rans are living up to their moniker.


Certainly looks like the track went away if you look at the starting positions of the top 10 in the 2nd A Main.

Second A-main (30 laps) - Starting Position [#]

1) 9-Joey Saldana[4] [$15,000]

2) 7-Craig Dollansky[9] [$5,500]

3) 14-Jason Meyers[10] [$3,200]

4) 15-Donny Schatz[13] [$2,800]

5) 91-Paul McMahan[11] [$2,500]

6) 7S-Jason Sides[12] [$2,300]

7) 1-Sammy Swindell[6] [$2,200]

8) 15H-Sam Hafertepe Jr.[8] [$2,100]

9) 30C-Lance Dewease[14] [$2,050]

10) 11K-Kraig Kinser[15] [$2,000]

9th to 2nd? 10th to 3rd? 13th to 4th? Thanks for another well reasoned argument, Cubic.



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Posted By: cubicdollars on July 22 2010 at 04:51:46 AM
Schatz was fast, but second feature was inverted. That is the only reason Saldana won it, that and the track went away as did passing. Dewease spanked the Outlaws. As have Stevie Smith and Ed Lynch in recent years. The World of Also Rans are living up to their moniker.


track went away?.....hammer down on a 6 inch tall cushion till the checkered......track went away?


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?


origopnwhlr
July 22, 2010 at 11:36:37 AM
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Rail, gotta hand it to ya.

Didn't think you knew how to spell any words with more than four letters!


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origopnwhlr
July 22, 2010 at 11:48:10 AM
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Posted By: origopnwhlr on July 22 2010 at 11:36:37 AM

Rail, gotta hand it to ya.

Didn't think you knew how to spell any words with more than four letters!



Cubic...notice anything here....

1 4 30C Lance Dewease Wings Unlimited J&J 155
2 5 15 Donny Schatz Armor All/STP J&J 150
3 2 7S Jason Sides WTS Maxim 144
4 12 91 Paul McMahan Great Clips Maxim 144
5 11 14 Jason Meyers DDNI/Elite KPC 143
6 15 7 Craig Dollansky Big Game Tree Stands Maxim 138
7 9 15H Sam Hafertepe Jr. Lone Star Speedway J&J 136
8 17 6 Danny Lasoski Casey's JEI 134
9 19 1 Sammy Swindell Big Game Tree Stands Maxim 132
10 23 83X Tim Shaffer Kistler Engines J&J 130
11 13 9 Joey Saldana Budweiser Maxim 129
12 8 5W Lucas Wolfe Allebach Racing Maxim 126
13 25 22 Brian Ellenberger T.I. 22 Performance JEI 124
14 20 17 Tyler Walker Hunter Truck Sales Maxim 122
15 21 11K Kraig Kinser Quaker State Maxim 120

The road show took 13 out of the top 15 positions. Huummmmmmmmm


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cubicdollars
July 22, 2010 at 11:56:59 AM
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Posted By: minthess on July 22 2010 at 11:25:24 AM

track went away?.....hammer down on a 6 inch tall cushion till the checkered......track went away?



Track conditions were excellent for twin 30 lap features, kudos to Lernerville. Schatz stopping moving forward once cushion was the only thing left however. Is going to have to find a way at the Grove however. Posse has to come from 12th EVERY week and they have twice as many good cars as the Outlaws.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



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July 22, 2010 at 12:19:02 PM
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Posted By: origopnwhlr on July 22 2010 at 11:48:10 AM

Cubic...notice anything here....

1 4 30C Lance Dewease Wings Unlimited J&J 155
2 5 15 Donny Schatz Armor All/STP J&J 150
3 2 7S Jason Sides WTS Maxim 144
4 12 91 Paul McMahan Great Clips Maxim 144
5 11 14 Jason Meyers DDNI/Elite KPC 143
6 15 7 Craig Dollansky Big Game Tree Stands Maxim 138
7 9 15H Sam Hafertepe Jr. Lone Star Speedway J&J 136
8 17 6 Danny Lasoski Casey's JEI 134
9 19 1 Sammy Swindell Big Game Tree Stands Maxim 132
10 23 83X Tim Shaffer Kistler Engines J&J 130
11 13 9 Joey Saldana Budweiser Maxim 129
12 8 5W Lucas Wolfe Allebach Racing Maxim 126
13 25 22 Brian Ellenberger T.I. 22 Performance JEI 124
14 20 17 Tyler Walker Hunter Truck Sales Maxim 122
15 21 11K Kraig Kinser Quaker State Maxim 120

The road show took 13 out of the top 15 positions. Huummmmmmmmm



I am not even sure what point you are trying to make there. The 410 field at Lernerville is relatively weak. There isn't a regular Lernerville team that has anything close to the budget of most Outlaw teams. I say that as someone that has actually been to Lernerville for both WoO shows and non WoO shows. Pretty much the the only places the Outlaws ever have to worry about locals stepping up and winning or running up front is Ohio and central Pennsylvania.



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July 22, 2010 at 12:29:42 PM
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Recent Posse Lernerville wins vs World of Also Rans

2010:

2009:


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


origopnwhlr
July 22, 2010 at 12:30:03 PM
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Ya got me there.

I know guys like Lynch, Fast Freddie, TW, et al are just field fillers.

What was I thinking?Frown


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dsc1600
July 22, 2010 at 01:37:49 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on July 22 2010 at 11:56:59 AM

Track conditions were excellent for twin 30 lap features, kudos to Lernerville. Schatz stopping moving forward once cushion was the only thing left however. Is going to have to find a way at the Grove however. Posse has to come from 12th EVERY week and they have twice as many good cars as the Outlaws.



How many times have they won from 12th at the Grove this year? I am just curious, not busting.



MoOpenwheel
July 22, 2010 at 01:55:15 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on July 22 2010 at 11:56:59 AM

Track conditions were excellent for twin 30 lap features, kudos to Lernerville. Schatz stopping moving forward once cushion was the only thing left however. Is going to have to find a way at the Grove however. Posse has to come from 12th EVERY week and they have twice as many good cars as the Outlaws.



TWICE as many good cars? Really!! Wow!!

origopnwhlr
July 22, 2010 at 02:00:42 PM
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Yep, and with those "twice as many good cars" they are ALWAYS winning at Limiland, Knoxville, etc. You get the point! Wink


TSA...It's not a GROPE...it's a Freedom Pat!


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Also a big shout out to the pillar of the PA porches....7th in the consy!


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

GDF99
July 22, 2010 at 04:01:31 PM
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Was Hodnett at Lernerville..... Doid not see him in the final stats....



LatshPA
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Posted By: origopnwhlr on July 22 2010 at 12:30:03 PM

Ya got me there.

I know guys like Lynch, Fast Freddie, TW, et al are just field fillers.

What was I thinking?Frown



This topic is soooo old, but I think the point he was trying to make is Lernerville's regular drivers, including Lynch, aren't considered "Central PA". Never have been. Lernerville probably has more ties to Ohio than Central PA really, kinda like Hagerstown does with Central PA even though it's in MD. Your winner had run a total of 30 times EVER at Lernerville, that would be a season and half if he was a regular. I believe he started in 1988?

Too say there are twice as many good cars at a WoO race at Williams Grove might be a little misleading, however, there are twice as many drivers that can WIN at a Williams Grove WoO race vs any track outside of CA, OH, and IA.






origopnwhlr
July 22, 2010 at 07:19:33 PM
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Thanks much Latsh. A Posse person who makes sense. I live that! Smile


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HoldenCaulfield
July 22, 2010 at 08:33:15 PM
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Posted By: origopnwhlr on July 21 2010 at 05:48:34 PM

Yeah, but you don't hear the Ohio folks talking trash like some of the Posse folks.

I think it is wonderful when a "local" can beat the big boys but you SELDOM see a local go out from home and beat them.

Big difference. Smile



Au contraire my friend. When OH locals put like 4-5 in the top 10 at a WOO show at Fremont or Attica a couple years ago, I thought we'd never hear the end of it. The funny thing was that Stevie Smith won the race. Then there's always those that complain that more central PA cars don't come out to Eldora or other OH tracks but the road travels both ways.

You're right it is great to see a local anywhere beat the big boys. LD has done it at Lernerville and Charlotte in recent years and had a 2nd earlier this year in TX.

 


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July 22, 2010 at 08:36:07 PM
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Posted By: origopnwhlr on July 22 2010 at 11:48:10 AM

Cubic...notice anything here....

1 4 30C Lance Dewease Wings Unlimited J&J 155
2 5 15 Donny Schatz Armor All/STP J&J 150
3 2 7S Jason Sides WTS Maxim 144
4 12 91 Paul McMahan Great Clips Maxim 144
5 11 14 Jason Meyers DDNI/Elite KPC 143
6 15 7 Craig Dollansky Big Game Tree Stands Maxim 138
7 9 15H Sam Hafertepe Jr. Lone Star Speedway J&J 136
8 17 6 Danny Lasoski Casey's JEI 134
9 19 1 Sammy Swindell Big Game Tree Stands Maxim 132
10 23 83X Tim Shaffer Kistler Engines J&J 130
11 13 9 Joey Saldana Budweiser Maxim 129
12 8 5W Lucas Wolfe Allebach Racing Maxim 126
13 25 22 Brian Ellenberger T.I. 22 Performance JEI 124
14 20 17 Tyler Walker Hunter Truck Sales Maxim 122
15 21 11K Kraig Kinser Quaker State Maxim 120

The road show took 13 out of the top 15 positions. Huummmmmmmmm



Looks like 12 of 15 to me with Dewease, Walker and Shaffer being non-WOO. Last I knew Lance was driving a maxim not J&J?


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This message was edited on July 22, 2010 at 08:41:53 PM by jackhammer

the main event winners did a good job, but an outlaw still took home the biggest trophy and the title for the show. he started right next to cubics boyfriend and whooped him in the second main. so jump up and down till your pants fall off cubic, an outlaw won the overall. live with it. lance went from 4th to 1st in the first main and donny went from 5th to 2nd. thats pretty much a tie, since the event wasn't over yet. in the second main, donny whooped lance. shall we spill some milk for cubic to cry over?



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Cubic does this over and over again just to attract the haters. And, it works everytime. Get over it the Posse won off the porch, whoopdedo.





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