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Yey where is that dam Kelly W. when ya need him to entertain us with his humor and wittyness in those house of horsepower press releases,LOL

Let's see now, to race competitively you have to have, #1, horsepower. (Engines developed, manufactored, assembeled and maintained in the US). #2, getting that horsepower to the ground. (Driveline components made in the US.) Note, those rearends made across the pond still have US made gears and shafts, the most critical parts. #3 Suspension parts, bars and shocks. (made in the US) #4, Wheels (made in the US) and finally the #5, tires (All made in the US) with R/D an ongoing task. How much R/D do the pond water companies perform?

NOW SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHICH XXX POND WATER PARTS CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING AT ALL TO THE SPEED OR HANDLING CAPABILITIES OF THE SPRINT CAR? There claim to their parts providing superior performance because the Dude or anyone else won a race or placed 3rd is completely untrue and false advertising.

Ok all you communist lovers, bash away!

Ok, so the message board geniuses say that no mfg's can do a press release unless they can prove that it was their parts that made the car win. Get real, it's called PR and everybody does it and needs it. How much credit can a tire manufacturer take if everyone runs the same tires? How much credit do you give a chassis mfg, if the winner comes off of the front row of a rubber down track when nobody can pass? How about seats? Are you going to protest any Butlerbuilt ads because it didn't make the car go faster?

Companies promote their product..... and they should. I don't recall any press release, including XXX, saying that the only reason the driver did good was because of their parts.

And again here goes the BS about a company in China taking away 4 jobs in America.

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No matter where you go, there you are.

i'd rather support 4 american's jobs than a million chinese!

ok here is one for ya'. what if racing prices continue to climb and it shuts down racing teams who can't afford the cost. that in turn leeds to less of a demand for parts which causes manufacturers to have to slow down production. this slowdown in production then leeds to job cuts and possibly higher part prices for the manufacturer to make ends meet. or they go out of business which means less competition between suppliers and possibly higher parts prices which in turn leeds to more teams shutting the doors and the cycle continues.then there will be less tires ,shocks rear ends ect. being bought. how many american jobs do you think could be lost then?

now what if those pond water parts are affordable and keep the costs down so teams can continue to race and in turn buy all those american made things. how many american jobs do you think might not be lost then?

i am not saying i support one over the other just throwing out some okie economics.lol.

Cheroger;
"Note, those rearends made across the pond still have US made gears and shafts". You are incorrect.

Call Winters/DMI an find out where their ring and pinions are made. Call Pro Shocks and find out where their interanal parts are manufactuered. Call Simpson and find out where their gloves/shoes and now some helmets are made. Call Aroura and find out where their rod ends are made. Call any chassis manufacuter and find out were the 4130 they use originated.

Maybe if you did a little research instead of just spouting useless, incorrect information, you'd actually contribute to these threads more than bigotry.

backinerin, Regardless of what you say, I doubt that ring and pinions are made in China. As far as your other claims? which, if any of those items contribute to performance and handling? Shocks, yes, however most are made in the US. If in fact ProShocks internals are foreign, they are assembled and quality assured here. Again, tell me what foreign parts are responsible for wins or superior performance?

Maybe if you did a little research about the history of communism and the damage caused by the support of their products through trade imbalance and job losses you could actually contribute some common sense opinions to these threads, instead of supporting non-american values.

Again! right now we are borrowing money from China to pay for this war.

So, if you want to support the war...warped isn't it?

Kenny

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

We (at XXX) feel that every part on a Sprint Car contributes to it performance and/or safety. Be it as simple as a nut and bolt that holds a nerf bar on, or the chassis itself. If you don't agree, then you probably don't understand the sport very well. There are zero parts on Sprint Cars that are there "just for the fun of it".

Danny Lasoski uses XXX nerfs, front and rear bumpers, front axle, radius rods, rod ends, dzus springs, wing posts, drag links, and tie rods. And, we are working closely with him to get more parts on his car (also known as R&D for those that don't think we do that).

Obviously, we don't claim drivers or race teams are winning "because" of our parts. We've been in the sport for 15 years, and know that is not the case. But, we do know that drivers and race teams are winning "with" of our parts and chassis. And that's what our press releases indicate. Our parts "do" contribute to the success of the teams.

Coming from last (after a flat tire) to 3rd in an ASCS main is a phenomenal feat. It's something you don't see much in Sprint Car racing anymore. Travis Rilat deserved to be recognized for that, and it's even more compelling that he did it the first night out in an XXX Chassis. raeccrash778; it's really somewhat of a shame that you are only interested in who came first ... you miss a lot of great racing that way.

Every week it's the same crap. Why aren't you guys more pissed at companys in Sprint Car racing that are making parts offshore and hide it? At least XXX is up front about it ... why does everyone keep busting their nuts?

Because they are too busy complaining on here with their foreign made computer, calling their buddy with their foreign made cell phone and taking pictures of the races with the foreign made camera and bitching about sprint car parts. Probably driving a foreign made car to get them to the races as well as their job!

Sprint Cars Do It On Dirt!

Inter...what? InterANAL parts? sheesh!!

no foreign cars in the driveway, all either made in norfolk, va or louisville, ky.,(fords) computer is an hp, no choice where it's made. cell phone is a lg, again, no choice where it's made. if we're gonna talk armchair economics, let's talk about trade deficits and why america is in such bad shape in competing against foreign countries.we have one of the highest standards of living in the world, that's why we can sit in our comfortable homes behind our computer screens and pontificate about such theorys as competition and free markets and global economies. no one mentions the law of averages. as you level the playing field amongst the different markets, the law of averages will kick in.those in the developing economies will enjoy a higher standard of living, while those already there will see their standard of living erode.that's what's happening in america right now.i would rather pay more to support america's economy than support any other countries. as far as racing goes, i guess each one has to ask themselves what they're willing to do to stay out there. if it means selling your countrymen out, it's your choice. it is what it is. any prostitute can justify why they sell their body in their own mind, but it still doesn't make it right. now go ahead and attack me and attack your country, it's your choice.as for me, now i know what a former navy seal was saying to me when he said america doesn't care about anything but themselves.

So, not one of you deep thinkers has a problem with the fact that we are borrowing money from China to pay for this war but you have plenty to say and you get all out of shape about a few sprintcar parts. Wake the hell up!!

Kenny

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

No comment. I work for BNSF Railway, the biggest US complete transportation solution for imports from the China market. We saw a presentation about our partnering with the ocean container companies over there last December. COFC, container on flat car. The ocean containers are loaded at the factory, put on a chassis, trucked to the export facility, loaded on a vessel which is off loaded at one of the major west coast ports. Containers are loaded onto flat cars and shipped via rail to distribution facilities all across the US. You walk into your local Best Buy, CompUSA, Home Depot, Menards, Walmart or Sprint Car parts supplier and purchase the finished product. I don't work in the intermodal group and deal with domestic chemical and steel shipments so I don't talk to any of the big importers myself.

The fact that race car parts are being manufactured overseas ought to tell us something. Dirt track racing is a big enough "industry" to make it cost effective to produce parts overseas. Nobody would have out sourced if there wasn't a profit to be made by doing so. It's hard for someone who went to their first race in the early 60's and remembers home built cars driven by future Hall of Famers pulled by open trailers behind pickup trucks to think of this as an "industry". Some of the things we have today are great, the new lighting, clean modern facilities, the internet to keep track of the racing, cable and satellite TV broadcasts and a national touring series to name a few. On the other hand, some of the legends of this sport came from humble beginnings and if they were trying to break into dirt track racing today some probably would have struggled to field a Street Stock. The beat moves on and the times change. I have a choice, I can accept the changes and continue to enjoy the sport or become a grumpy old dinosaur and hang around old timers exhibitions. So far I'm still keeping up with the times and am happy that we can still enjoy this sport

Stan Meissner

THIS MAKES ME WONDER IF ANNY OF THE XXX COMPLAINERS HAVE ANY IDEA OF THEIR OWN ANCESTRY ? OR THE HISTORY OF THE USA ?

Robert Bond    San Jose Ca

Or any of the true facts of the history and changes of China over the last 60 years for that matter.

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I'd be all about affordable parts if I owned a team. As a fan I'd like to see someone help who can keep more butts in the race seats. More cars on the tracks can lead to better shows for the hard working individuals that show up week after week to the tracks to get our money's worth for entertainment. This XXX is a good thing. It is too bad that they aren't an American company but it leads to our american parts makers to lower and/or level the prices of their parts. Glad someone is trying to stick it to them while producing quality products that are a more reasonable price.

bigdadd7777
Ford F-150 domestic content is 72%

Toyota Tundra domestic content is 91%

The F-150 is 20% cheaper than the Tundra go figure. And although you may not have a choice as to where those electronics are made you do have a choice on using them. Kind of like animal rights activists having their meetings at McDonalds'. Can't have it both ways. You either make the choice and stick with it or don't. If your going to take the middle of the road you can hardly chastise the rest of us for doing the same.

My standard of living is not eroding at all. In fact it improves every day the global economy come closer to fruition. And I don't feel one bit like a prostitute any more than I feel you speak for the rest of the country. IF you did Wal-Mart and Hundyai would go out of business. This retired Air Force Master Sargeant says your Navy Seal is right. If we really cared about this country we would close the borders to trade and traffic so that we could strive or die on our own. (That last bit is sarcasim just in case anyone missed it)