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David Smith Jr
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NCRA Sprint Car Schedule for 2010 Released

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – January 31, 2010 – Midwest City, Oklahoma - Fourteen races in two states await the 21st consecutive season for the O'Reilly/NCRA sprint car series with a couple of venues hosting the tour for the first time in several years, one of those tracks the first time for the 360 sprint car division.

The season will get under way on Sunday night, May 31, at the home track of NCRA, 81 Speedway in Park City, Kansas.

Roughly two weeks later it is on to the beautiful Dodge City Raceway Park in Dodge City, Kansas on Friday and Saturday night, June 11-12. It will be a combined event with the World of Outlaw sprint car division. More information on this big weekend is forthcoming.

Saturday night, June 19, will see Thunder Hill Speedway in Mayetta, Kansas host their first ever NCRA 360 sprint car sanctioned race with new owners Dave and Mike Conkwright now at the helm of the high banked facility. The last sanctioned NCRA sprint car race was back on July 2 when the track hosted an outlaw sprint car event. The tour then heads to 81 Speedway to close out the weekend.

The Grand Daddy of them all is next on the schedule with two big nights of the prestigious Hutchinson Grand Nationals in Hutchinson, Kansas on Friday and Saturday night, July 2-3.

Dodge City Raceway Park will host the division one last time in 2010 on Saturday night, July 17 while two weeks later on July 31 it is back at 81 Speedway.

August 21 will be the tours annual trip to Mid-Nebraska Speedway in Doniphan, Nebraska for a Saturday night showdown.

Labor Day weekend three dates scheduled with the first two nights being listed as "tentative." It all begins on Friday night, September 3 at RPM Speedway in Hays, Kansas followed by a tentative stop at Great American Speedway in Jetmore, Kansas. The Belleville High Banks in Kansas will close out the Labor Day weekend for the sprinters on Sunday night, September 3.

Then on Saturday night, October 16 the season will come to a close at 81 Speedway where, as has been the case the past three years, the battle for the point's championship has been decided. With a couple of new drivers already making their plans on competing for the division title, it could be yet another tight point's battle throughout the season on the O'Reilly/NCRA sprint car tour.

A total of sixty-four races in six states are slated for all five divisions combined for the 40th anniversary season of the O'Reilly Auto Parts National Championship Racing Association. To learn more about the history and up to date information on the series, check them out on their official website www.ncraracing.org. To inquire more information on the sprint car division, contact NCRA steward Rod Bencken (785) 672-0123 or NCRA president C Ray Hall (316) 755-1781.

To climb aboard as presenting or contingency partner with the sprint car division for 2010, contact David Smith, Jr. (405) 740-4769 or by email [email protected].

The series and officials would like to thank the following who have climbed aboard thus for this coming race season:

2010 NCRA Sprint Car Series Sponsors: O'Reilly Auto Parts, Hoosier Race Tires, Sunoco Race Fuels

Contingency Sponsors: Keizer Aluminum Wheels, Pro Shocks, Racing Optics, Rod End Supply, Saldana Race Products, Schoenfeld Headers, SuperShox, Taylor Cable Products, Ultra Shield, Vertex Magnetos, Winters Performance Parts

May 31 Monday 81 Speedway Park City, Kansas

June 11-12 Friday/Saturday Dodge City Raceway Park Dodge City, Kansas

June 19 Saturday Thunder Hill Speedway Mayetta, Kansas

June 20 Sunday 81 Speedway Park City, Kansas

July 2-3 Friday/Saturday Hutchinson Nationals Hutchinson, Kansas

July 17 Saturday Dodge City Raceway Park Dodge City, Kansas

July 31 Saturday 81 Speedway Park City, Kansas

Aug. 21 Saturday Mid-Nebraska Speedway Doniphan, Nebraska

Sept. 3 Friday RPM Speedway (Tentative) Hays, Kansas

Sept. 4 Saturday Great American Speedway (T) Jetmore, Kansas

Sept. 5 Sunday Belleville High Banks Belleville, Kansas

Oct. 16 Saturday 81 Speedway Park City, Kansas


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YMEREJ
January 31, 2010 at 02:37:06 PM
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Thats cool they are going to be with the WOO in dodge city june 11-12. That should make for one heck of a show. Cool to see Hays on the schedule as well. LETS GO RACIN!!



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good stuff.

I think a southwest Kansas trip in June just might be in order Smile

I always swore I'd never go see an overpriced WoO show - but damn that looks like it will be a quality race with some real bang for the buck! And we really like that track/facility.

good work NCRA.


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KS Sprinter
February 01, 2010 at 10:23:23 PM
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It is completely senseless to run the 360's with the WoO cars. There is absolutely no benefit to do this other than pad the tracks pockets and empty the car owners of a 360. If they were to split the shows on the same night that would make for a great nite of racing for all, but to have them run together and have it a points race for the NCRA with the way they are talking on points awarded is ridiculous. Anyone that says that it is a good deal has obviously never owned a car and never seen the dramatic difference in speeds. I am most sure that the 410's will flat run over the 360's literally when they are running for the big picture and money. Please someone think this over really good so that the small guy doesn't have to pay in the end again.



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Posted By: KS Sprinter on February 01 2010 at 10:23:23 PM

It is completely senseless to run the 360's with the WoO cars. There is absolutely no benefit to do this other than pad the tracks pockets and empty the car owners of a 360. If they were to split the shows on the same night that would make for a great nite of racing for all, but to have them run together and have it a points race for the NCRA with the way they are talking on points awarded is ridiculous. Anyone that says that it is a good deal has obviously never owned a car and never seen the dramatic difference in speeds. I am most sure that the 410's will flat run over the 360's literally when they are running for the big picture and money. Please someone think this over really good so that the small guy doesn't have to pay in the end again.



are you sure they are running together or that they are running 410's by themselves and 360's by themselves? i think that the 360's are to be the prelims to the 410's



KS Sprinter
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No I am not sure, that was the rumor at the chilli bowl and I hope it is not true. I know that if it was to happen that the fans would be pumped up till they seen the outcome and realized that it would not make for as good of a show as they may think. I also know that it has been done before and yes the 305's may have made the show last year but had to pull of in 2 laps to stay out of there road and the 360's needed to pull off but stayed for the $'s and the chance someone might fall out in a 410 and advance them a position but thats not racing in my mind. It would be nice to have a full field for the WoO but i don't think putting the 360's out there is the answer. Just my opinion.




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I think that everyone understands that 950hp/1200lbs is a lot faster than 675hp/1500lbs. It would be really stupid to run a combined show for the two, and I don't see WoO doing that. I've heard of them paying 360's to haul and be field fillers, but not a whole series. With that said I don't think that this is a combined show, or at least I hope not because we're planning on running a lot of NCRA and that would make us not travel to Dodge that weekend.


 

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Well I'll break it to ya. I just talked to Ed at DCRP and this whole thing is not a done deal yet. He is wanting to run them together. Now that being said. Here is how i got it explained. The NCRA cars will get paid just like an NCRA race unless they finish in a higher paying position with the outlaws and thats how the points will work also. The NCRA pay and points will go on down into the B or C feature where you finish within the 360 cars. The only good I can really see in this would be pretty much all the NCRA cars will be in the B so we would get our normal A feature on TV.



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If I remember correctly, the World of Outlaws had tried this before, with either the ASCS Rebel or Southern Region. I'm not sure that the race ever happened, but both series were worried about car count at whichever track they were going to and so they scheduled it with each other. I think the Outlaws are trying to get a bigger car count because the last time they were at Dodge City I think they were lucky to get 30 cars.




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I think it's a bunch of BS myself I agree with CHEESE!!!!!


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KS Sprinter
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Well then I guess it wasn't a rumour then and that is sad. Ed being the "WoO promoter of the year" cannot get a field fit for watching? If the pay is the same then run 2 separate classes and let the points be awarded for the NCRA cars running against NCRA cars. My opinion is a 360 car will get trashed that nite by being in the way and with a full wall and a infield birm that HAS flipped cars, we will be lucky if that is all that gets tore up. This is Ed looking for a full field and I don't blame him, just don't make it a NCRA points race and the 360's that want to run still can and those of us that find it ridiculous can go watch. I would rather a points championship be based on an even playing field all year. The points were close last year and a deal like this could have really messed that up. I am not bashing anyone on this in anyway just trying to wrap my head around the logic and I guess it is all about the DC promoter"s show and not the racer and there equipment once again. I sure hope it doesn't work out this way and not one 360 driver I have talked to is in favor of it.



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Geez, alot of concern over a race that is yet four months away and that had already mentioned "more information is forthcoming." I, as of yet, know all the details as they are yet to be finalized but, if true, I do know some of them.

There are about five or six drivers who had 360 motors compete in that event in the past anyways. Wait until details are finalized and firmed before we post what is actually going to happen.


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KS Sprinter
February 02, 2010 at 10:32:19 PM
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It may be too late by then Dave, I have seen what ED and DCRP are capable of doing and was just wanting to voice my concern. As I said I am not meaning to bash anyone on this just letting out my opinion on what we now know "per Ed" is trying to be done. Sorry if I offended anyone just looking out for what little equipment I have so that I may be able to run the full schedule of NCRA. Again sorry if I offended anyone with my forum posts.



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I understand your side, the money 360 side, the promoter side and we haven't really heard anything from the WoO side. But as I stated, not all details are finalized if this deal is going to take place and I just don't see where getting upset in February will help for a race not until mid June.

Post your thoughts freely, as that is encouraged. But remember not all details are out yet. Heck I ain't even got all the facts yet myself.

Changing the pace, nice to see almost a fifteen race schedule this year for the sprinters with a couple new tracks on board for a change.


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rhilbers
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It's OK Mr. Tidbits we just needed something else to bitch about since it has been kinda boring on here lmao!!!!

Just go to HOOTERS and get some wings tomorrow and a diet Pepsi before you have a migraine.....Wink


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I understand your side, the money 360 side, the promoter side and we haven't really heard anything from the WoO side. But as I stated, not all details are finalized if this deal is going to take place and I just don't see where getting upset in February will help for a race not until mid June.

Post your thoughts freely, as that is encouraged. But remember not all details are out yet. Heck I ain't even got all the facts yet myself.

Changing the pace, nice to see almost a fifteen race schedule this year for the sprinters with a couple new tracks on board for a change.



It would be great if the 360 division of NCRA keeps growing. As far as history goes it is THE series for this area.


 

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It would be great if the 360 division of NCRA keeps growing. As far as history goes it is THE series for this area.



You must have got an e-mail also....


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David Smith Jr
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You must have got an e-mail also....



OMG!!!! I need medium, buffalo wings all drums and a pitcher of cold iced tea.


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rhilbers
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OMG!!!! I need medium, buffalo wings all drums and a pitcher of cold iced tea.



HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA


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lol. is it really better coverage?

They could get on TV and run competitive in various 360 shows. That would be much better than on TV getting lapped 3-4 times in a caution free race in a WoOverated show.

This would be a very pitiful move by NCRA. If the WoO can't stand on their own 2 feet to run the Boot Hill Showdown - NCRA shouldn't degrade themselves to make up for it. I say that and many might not see what is degrading about it. By all rights - this would not be that great of a show. not really. It's like watching 2 races within 1 race. The 360's will just get in the way of the 410's - which is more than ok with the WoO - because without the 360's - there is no show worth even half of what will be charged. Thing is - the show still won't be worth half of what is charged.

I suppose it was foolish to think NCRA would run their own show in this deal. The WoO would never support such a thing - they would likely be upstaged. There would be more 360's than 410's - and if the 360 race was closer and more action packed.......well you get the idea. And this is probably would be what would happen.

And about the money. It's running for an NCRA purse except not on a level playing field. It's not really 800$ for a 360 to start a WoO feature - it's really 800$ to win. I've always understodd why driver went and did it. if there was only a field of 24 cars - chances are high you'll make it in. Although last year didn't they have a lot more 360's? Like 17 of them? So basically the 360's will be racing their asses off for the SCRAPS - the bread crumbs.

I do think this is bad for NCRA. By all rights - if the WoO can only manage a handful of 15 or so cars. Let them lay in the bed they have made. If they can't put quality shit together outside of 410 hotspots - then they shouldn't be charging the bullshit prices to see such an overrated product. NCRA doesn't need this. I don't see the point of it being on TV - I don't think it's great exposure.Because the 360's really don't have a chance - unless as lapped traffic they somehow take out some of the Outlaws lol. (joke). But I imagine it would probably be easier for some 360's to make a WoO feature than it would an ASCS National Feature. As far as the B Feature being mostly NCRA - that might not be bad logic except.....what if a couple 410's are in that race? And just smoke the hell out of the others? Yes you could say you got on TV lol - but I would wander if much of that B Feature would even be aired - what if the B Feature of mostly 360's was better than the A Feature of half 410's. That would be the same logic as running 2 different shows - and the WoO won't want that. Because it creates a variable chance of making them look bad.

Make sense yet? The WoO telecast likely won't mention much about 360's or NCRA. not really. How does it make them loook that they can't even stand on their own 2 feet? And I do think this is rather degrading - maybe not the drivers - but definitely to the series. And even worse - they will be playing a field filling role in their own backyard!!! I just fail to see how this is a good move for NCRA at all.

Makes me like ASCS that much more. NCRA - like ASCS - doesn't really have a problem of only getting 15 cars for a show. So why help another series that does? By all rights - if NCRA wants some TV time - do it where your drivers have a chance to shine. either do it in conjunction with ascs - or even better on your own - and if you can't do those - then don't do it all. Don't do something like this. Whoever telecasts WoO (i dont know i usually dont watch) - will likely be interviewing Schatz, Saldana, Kinser, Meyers, etc. - while the NCRA A Feature (WoO B Feature) is being run. That wouldn't suprise me at all.

Doubt any of those guys would talk about how the WoO struggles to put a show together worth half of what they charge outside of OH, PA, Knoxville, and California. By all rights - this is 360 whole area is 360 turf. It's just the way it is. NCRA might not have it going like ASCS - but they put on quality shows. And there is no good in degrading your own quality to help another series make up for their lack of it.

In short (lol) - think we've pretty much crossed out attending this one. I'd rather travel the 5 hours or so to watch a regional ASCS show - that in all likelihood would be twice as good for half the price (pending conditions). Hey while we are at it - NCRA should run some shows with the United Rebel Sprint Series - who knows? it could be a barnburner!!! lol. EXCEPT - I doubt URSS would go for it. for the same reason NCRA shouldn't be doing this. If Dodge City's track can't find a better way to maximize the quality of NCRA 360 shows - then ya'll should say screw him. It's not like the NCRA promoter doesn't have his own freakin track. Or better yet - work out something with Jetmore lol. If NCRA wants to run co-sanctioned shows - do it with ASCS or WOW. That would be a win-win for everyone. For the series, for the drivers (who get their rightful chance to shine), and the fans too (who get to see a high quality show). If it's about the money - hell - bump it up a tick for a show.....find someone willing to sponsor a weekend of racing in that area. Kind of like the ASCS Gulf South Region does (and is really good at). Easy for me to say tho right? lol

Whereas this is sharp - there is no personal disrespects intended. I am a fan of NCRA and like many of the things they do. However, I just think this is a terrible idea (understatenebt). And being a open wheel fan in this part of the country - I like quality 360 shows a hell of a lot more than the fading 410's that can't maintain any quality outside of the Ohio Valley and West Coast. When it comes to this neck of the woods - well I don't really need to explain - most already know. Speed doesn;t mean shit if you can't bring enough cars to display it properly and price it reasonably.

Even objectively - I tend to think the negatives far outwiegh the un-assured positives in a show such as is being pondered here. Why not just charge people out the ass and call them stupid at the same time? Why not throw some 305's in this too? lol.

It's pretty sad that the "Greatest Show on Dirt" (yeah right LOL) has to resort to this.


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