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March 28, 2007 at
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One of the better races I have seen in a while. Talking to the locals in the pits down there, who never seen a live sprint car race, and they were truly amazed. I mentioned how could they watch taxicabs(nascrap) which was just down the road instead of this form of racing. They agreed, but sprint cars are not bigtime in the south. Why did not the track have enough pushtrucks? That always seems to be the case whenever Sprint Cars have a show at non -sprint car tracks. And the 50/50 draw. I almost choked when I heard the prize. Sort of brought thoughts of Lou Haney from Green Acres to mind. And the delays for a two division show-unbelievable. Reminds me of the Earl at the first HBO saying he had to sell a few more hotdogs to break even.
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March 28, 2007 at
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Sounds like it was a heckuva race. Just wondering what the 50/50 prize was?
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Posted By: filtalr on March 28 2007 at 10:29:33 AM
Sounds like it was a heckuva race. Just wondering what the 50/50 prize was?
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March 28, 2007 at
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Paging Andrew S Quinn... I heard a rumor that you were there? What track would you compare it to.. Eldora? Will you be at Paducah and Mini-Eldora (Pevely) in a little over a week?
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March 28, 2007 at
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i understand it is advertised as a 4/10 mile track...depending on how many feet are in a mile in the state of TN, Eldora (.43 miles) could be 150 feet further around the mean groove.
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
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March 28, 2007 at
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The 50/50 was somewhere in the high $400 range...There were about 8-10k ppl there...??? I kinda chuckled when they said what was up for grabs...Maybe those fans didnt know what 50/50 was......With the turn out and great racing they'd be fools to not run there again next year...Hell I'll promote it...
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March 28, 2007 at
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March 28, 2007 at
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Yep I was there,and would compare it to Eldora a bit. Seems a
bit smaller than Eldora,and banked a bit higher! Almost like a higher
banked Lincoln Speedway. Racing was the best WoO race I have
seen in ages. Hope they come back there next year.
50/50 was pathetic. This is where every
promoter should read Chris Economaki's book. "SELL IT"!!! Nobody was
selling the 50/50 to people. Hire some scantily clad chicks,and "SELL
IT" They were doing ok in the food concessions, but could also learn a
lesson by visiting Lebanon Valley where the food line moves very
quickly!
I'm planning on being at both Paducah and Pevely. Just put in for getting out of work early that Friday this morning at work. As long as the weather is nice,it really is gonna be "Good Friday" !! Pevely has been on the hitlist for ages,Paducah will be an added bonus. You coming over Chilly W. and mentor Bill W.??
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March 29, 2007 at
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The Mighty Quinn has reverted to watching wingers!!!!! He fell of the wagon again, the shame of it.
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Posted By: Andrew S Quinn on March 28 2007 at 02:13:40 PM
Yep I was there,and would compare it to Eldora a bit. Seems a
bit smaller than Eldora,and banked a bit higher! Almost like a higher
banked Lincoln Speedway. Racing was the best WoO race I have
seen in ages. Hope they come back there next year.
50/50 was pathetic. This is where every
promoter should read Chris Economaki's book. "SELL IT"!!! Nobody was
selling the 50/50 to people. Hire some scantily clad chicks,and "SELL
IT" They were doing ok in the food concessions, but could also learn a
lesson by visiting Lebanon Valley where the food line moves very
quickly!
I'm planning on being at both Paducah and Pevely. Just put in for getting out of work early that Friday this morning at work. As long as the weather is nice,it really is gonna be "Good Friday" !! Pevely has been on the hitlist for ages,Paducah will be an added bonus. You coming over Chilly W. and mentor Bill W.??
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Good to hear you had a good time. If they make a return trip, curiosity might get the best of me. I'm prepared to make "Friday" as "Good" as possible... have the day off, headin' to Paducah. My pops and that Bill W figure will be along. You'll like Pevely. If I like Paducah half as much as I do Pevely, life will be good.
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The Mighty Quinn has been itching to smell some
methanol badly,and now that I live near the real adventures,decided to
try and catch a whiff. A fairly good time happened in the process. Was
waiting for Eldora's now cancelled USAC race for this weekend. Now I'm
stuck with no sprintcars to watch. A couple more weeks of winged
racing,then I'll be watching them without the Trainers as you call them!
When are you coming back to Indiana Offie??
Good to hear that you,your dad and Bill W. are coming
across,Chilly W. We were talking about you guys that live near
"Heaven" the other night, and wondered what you do the other 6
nights of the week??? I also didnt see you at the Chili (W)
Bowl,and not to many posts here as of late made me wonder if you are
getting closer to getting married???
See ya on Friday
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Posted By: Andrew S Quinn on March 29 2007 at 03:04:13 PM
The Mighty Quinn has been itching to smell some
methanol badly,and now that I live near the real adventures,decided to
try and catch a whiff. A fairly good time happened in the process. Was
waiting for Eldora's now cancelled USAC race for this weekend. Now I'm
stuck with no sprintcars to watch. A couple more weeks of winged
racing,then I'll be watching them without the Trainers as you call them!
When are you coming back to Indiana Offie??
Good to hear that you,your dad and Bill W. are coming
across,Chilly W. We were talking about you guys that live near
"Heaven" the other night, and wondered what you do the other 6
nights of the week??? I also didnt see you at the Chili (W)
Bowl,and not to many posts here as of late made me wonder if you are
getting closer to getting married???
See ya on Friday
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Esquire, the racing season around here takes awhile to get cookin' but there is plenty of action that isn't at the Holy Grail...I banged out a modest schedule with 80 open-wheel dates or so that are within shoutin' distance, so don't feel bad about us in the Promised Land...
If this post isn't results, stories or something c
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Posted By: Andrew S Quinn on March 29 2007 at 03:04:13 PM
The Mighty Quinn has been itching to smell some
methanol badly,and now that I live near the real adventures,decided to
try and catch a whiff. A fairly good time happened in the process. Was
waiting for Eldora's now cancelled USAC race for this weekend. Now I'm
stuck with no sprintcars to watch. A couple more weeks of winged
racing,then I'll be watching them without the Trainers as you call them!
When are you coming back to Indiana Offie??
Good to hear that you,your dad and Bill W. are coming
across,Chilly W. We were talking about you guys that live near
"Heaven" the other night, and wondered what you do the other 6
nights of the week??? I also didnt see you at the Chili (W)
Bowl,and not to many posts here as of late made me wonder if you are
getting closer to getting married???
See ya on Friday
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ASQ... I missed the Chili Bowl this year... planned to save some PTO & $$$ and fly out to the D.C. area around May, go to the Grove & Lincoln. A few of us at work found out in early Feb though that we're "dead men walking" - out of a job come late July. So I put a hold on the trip until I get something figured out w/ the job situation. Still have a steady ride, but nothing big is planned as you are insinuating...
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March 29, 2007 at
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March 29, 2007 at
04:10:10 PM by Andrew S Quinn
I'll be catching some of your racing later this
summer Bill W. when I come out for my Knoxville trip,then do the Tour
'N Topless tour after,along with stops at Husets and Thunder Hill for
the All Stars too.
Chilly W. its time to come to the real heaven. Your young,
and havent bitten the big one yet,and work is going down the drain there. Dont wait for years like I had to.
Theres more than one road here in Indy that heads west,so you could go
to Knoxville from time to time. If you can find time that is,theres an
awful lot of racing going on here in the summer months without driving
a day and a half to see it.
Winchester is coming up in a couple weeks. Your welcome to make a return trip here,just leave the rain at home this time!
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March 29, 2007 at
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Rain?
There'll be no rain while I am there Mr Quinn, please assure me of that!
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March 29, 2007 at
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Nah hopefully no rain while your over,Oscar. Then on the other hand,you and Chilly W seem to attract rain!
Good thing you posted. Reminded me to make a phone call. Got the answering machine though......
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March 30, 2007 at
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Are you talking about us ? It's ALL GOOD here in Raymore,MO.Brain surgery ain't so bad if you have the right Doctors !
Still haven't given up on seeing you at Riverside on April 21st,Oscar.We'll be calling you to let you know for sure.
Thanks for thinking about us,Andrew.Glad to hear that Lakeside is on your hitlist this year.see you then.Bud's Bride
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March 30, 2007 at
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Posted By: Andrew S Quinn on March 29 2007 at 04:09:02 PM
I'll be catching some of your racing later this
summer Bill W. when I come out for my Knoxville trip,then do the Tour
'N Topless tour after,along with stops at Husets and Thunder Hill for
the All Stars too.
Chilly W. its time to come to the real heaven. Your young,
and havent bitten the big one yet,and work is going down the drain there. Dont wait for years like I had to.
Theres more than one road here in Indy that heads west,so you could go
to Knoxville from time to time. If you can find time that is,theres an
awful lot of racing going on here in the summer months without driving
a day and a half to see it.
Winchester is coming up in a couple weeks. Your welcome to make a return trip here,just leave the rain at home this time!
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It may take that van a day and a half, but downtown Indy is a mere 7 hours from my front door...
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March 30, 2007 at
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Posted By: Bill W on March 30 2007 at 07:17:14 AM
It may take that van a day and a half, but downtown Indy is a mere 7 hours from my front door...
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FROM OPEN WHEEL TIMES...
Leonard Lee is someone I met at Williams Grove in 1984. I still have that Omar’s Butcher Shop T-shirt. Always an acerbic monitor, Leonard is unhappy. Last year, Lon Carnathan allowed him and Jason Solwold to race WoO whenever NST did not. Leonard had leverage; both sides courted him. This year, NST is no more. Outlaws are 27 deep yet purse money is the same old bowl of soup. Lee feels that everyone will make less money in 2007 as 2006.
Also on Leonard’s list of grievances is the format used to align A-main starting spots. Last year, outlaws time trialed, inverted six to transfer five with the top 12 split into two dashes and later, one 10-car dash.
In an effort to make heats more exciting, first and second-place go to the dash. The fastest two cars which fail to finish first or second also make the dash. Only four are inverted now. It has made third through eighth no place to be. Ninth fastest equates to the first row of the first heat. Eighth fastest must pass someone in the fourth heat to avoid starting from the sixth row of the A-main.
“Sprint car racing is the only sport that penalizes you for being fast,” said Lee in a familiar echo. Leonard feels that if the World of Outlaws truly wants to be NASCAR, they should simply time and race with no invert, no heats, no dash. Just go
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March 30, 2007 at
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I'm surprised a Ford can go that fast,Bill W. I know
Chilly W's Chevy will go fast, at least in Illinois where its really
flat,and you can get that thing going!! It also made pretty good time going to Salem last year,after plans A & B went down the drain first.
Maybe
I should reword that to theres a lot more sprint car racing within a
day and a halfs drive here in Indiana,than out there in "Heaven" where
they race once a week.
Good thing Oscar posted ,cause that reminded me to call in at Raymore,Missouri to see how the operation went. After I got the answering machine,I called Dane,and inquired with him. Then Bud called me back. Glad to hear it was a success. You might wanna post about that on the board here so others can learn about it too.
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Just signed up for the Hoseheads forum..... got tired of the crummy attitude, childish stuff going on in "Other" forum. You folks have positive things to say and I lkie that.
My first question..... everybody liked the racing at Bull last weekend. Was it because it is a great racetrack, or is it because the re-united group is meshing into the premier racing machine it once was ? Personally, I didnt care for the quality of racing I saw last year from either touring body. (And I saw both from coast to coast)
Thanx, guys. Out
Larry
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