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Here's a subject for debate:

There has been serious discussion of the Nationals A Main going to 40 laps in '09 and 50 laps in '10 for the 50th Anniversary. Also, excluding the Scrambles and running the E and D Friday night, leaving only the C, B and A for Saturday.

Discuss......

Savage

I like the 40 & 50 lap feature & eliminating the scrambles, but with only the A, B, & C on Saturday I imagine that would take about 90 minutes at most. What to do for the rest of the evening?

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she would leave me.................I'm sure gonna miss 
that ol' gal. 

I kinda like the idea but i'm a bigger fan of Saturday night lasting longer than about 2 hours without

being drug on for so long. The problem will be if the track is wide enough for good racing with only 3

features being ran. Also, would there be competition caution during the 50 lap feature? I thought

Knoxville ran a 50 lap WoO feature awhile back and had a red flag on lap 25 for fuel and tires.

-Austin Rankin

I'd like to see the Nationals A main run 40 laps.

I'd also like to see the Gold Cup go back to 50 laps.

The most pretigius Sprint Car race in the country should be longer than 30 laps no matter what. You would not need the competion yellow if they ran the BIG tanks instead of the small ones. I have seen here in Indiana teams change the tanks to put on the BIG tank to run the 50 lap races we have here.

Kyle

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I agree that the feature should be long,er, BUT with the big tanks full of fuel the cars won't handle right, possibly even hard to drive. Why would we want to watch poor handling cars?

Oh, wait. Then the drivers might have to drive. Crazy.

Love the idea of the extra laps as it will make a better race at the front and coming from the back with drivers coming up through the B. Friday night would get waaay too long with the E and D features following the non-qualifer heats and features.

Kinda like how the scrambles are set up now, but wish that money would go to more of the non-qualifer guys.

BIG J

"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity."

I think a 40 lap race with 33 gal. cells would be cutting it close with two cautions. 50 laps, there would be a stop, do anything you want in 10-15 mins. Tires may be the only thing you can't change, except pressures.

As far as the track goes, we'll still have 60 cars hot lapping and racing, roughly a total of 90-100 green flag racing laps. I'm sure Dunkins can get it right for that.

Savage

Im all in for a 40 lap nationals, but cutting the saturday night show dosent sound like a good Idea. It will kind of be a rip off to pay that much money 4 3 races

I've always thought it should be 40 laps. Never really knew why it wasn't. Keep saturday the way it is. Believe it or not I like the scrambles too. That's what makes Friday night for me. I'd like to see one thing though. With the cars the way they are right now I'd like to see them run 14 lap scrambles. Stop them on lap 7. Line them back up double file. Then go at it for the last 7 again. Hopefully the field won't spread out and freight train the entire scramble. Heck give a few points for top 3 spots in the first "session" if ya want. Something new like that would be nice, otherwise run it the way it is with more laps.

Back in the 60s they had some 100 lapers and twin 50s,,,,now that would be a show.

Win as if you are use to it.And lose as if you enjoyed 
it for a change.Its hard to get to the top and alot 
harder to stay there.

I vote keep it all the same as it is accept extend the feature out to 40 laps. I still like the idea of a driver going through the alphabet some day, some year!! I think some changes in the cars will need to be made before we ever see that again though.

Fantastic!!

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40 laps sounds great!! The problem is a fuel stop is going to be needed big tanks or not. It's just the nature of the beast as it is today.

It's not 1972 anymore folksies. These power plants suck that methanol like there's no tomorrow nowadays and even if you only have 3 stoppages it won't last.

Throw in the state of tires now, and you'll have 'em blowing left and right in the last 1/4 of the race.

I also don't care for the cutting back on Saturday night's program. That's the highlight of the whole week, right?? It needs to be the best racing of the week, since it leads to the biggest payday of the year.

Let's pull the wings off, put on some bricks on all 4 corners and THEN see who can really drive a sprinter.

I am lucky enough to work at one of the best tracks 
anywhere.

How about extending the B to 25 or 30 laps and the C to 20 or 25 laps. You get a lot of laps of racing and give some guys a chance to come thru the field.

Bob

Good grief man, the drivers/owners aren't smart enough to put enough fuel in the cars already with short features, is all you want to see is red flags for fuel?

I am in favor for NO fuel added after the green flag, then more laps is fine with me.

A competition red is a farce also.

Put fuel in the damn things and race for a change.

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excellent news - 40 laps would definitely play into considerations for returning. if it turns into a tire blowing contest the race might be more entertaining. delware restarts would be a good idea too.

add in a silent plan for a mandatory fuel stop if Donnie Schatz is ruinning 2nd, just to take the pressure off of Tyler Walker.

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Great idea on the changes ,,But what about triple 33 lapers .Run one invert the field for the second one . Then add up the points and then run the last 33 with the high point guys up front .

They could all refuel and put new tires on for each race,.

I dont think they will ever pull the wings off ,because of the safety factory.That wing keeps then from making hard contact with the Roll Cage.

You are right if they pulled the wings and used harder tires we would find out who really is the best drivers,,it would be interesting to see which ones of them could control tire spin . And which ones could use the slide to slow down and keep momentum at the same time. After using a wing for so long it would be cool to see who could make the adjustments in there driving .

Win as if you are use to it.And lose as if you enjoyed 
it for a change.Its hard to get to the top and alot 
harder to stay there.

I didn't say anything about stopping for fuel. I agree throw the green and race, no open reds, if you missed the setup too bad. I also think the weekly A-main at knoxville should be at least 25 laps. I hear they may raise the weekly payout. More money, more laps sounds good to me. Bob

I wasn't picking on you, but to all of the folks that think more laps equal a better race/

UNTIL someone, someplace has the gonads to enforce a no fuel stop rule, we will continue to watch decent races being bastardized by a fuel stop.

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