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Lets just say it the way it really is;

There is not a person running for office that deserves to be president of this nation!!! Its that simple!!!!

I'M NOT VOTING FOR EITHER ONE!!!

This is a horrible way to protest but we don't have a person worthy and really our votes don't count anyway!!!!!

So save the country alot of money and just let the electoral college cast the votes!!!

Jayson Ellis

1. You used my phrase, so don't act like you were not talking to me.

2. Throwback is actually a word used quite often in my generation and I, myself, use it a lot. I would take my generation over yours any day. At least when our troops get home we cheer for them instead of throwing things at them and throwing death threats their way.

3. It's funny that we have a nice little group on this forum and there have not been any personal attacks until you stepped in and called people ignorant.

4. I guess I might as well quit now, I know nothing about politics because I disagree with you. I heard that CNN is hiring, you should get a job as a political analyst with your experience of working at a 2 year college. Congratulations on your accomplishments and accreditations.

5. The University of Oklahoma is the most liberal place in the state and I have had plenty of hippie professors as so called "sources." And yes they try to play the same lib card saying that the only reason I am conservative is because my parents are. I must just be a brainwashed follower that cannot think for myself, and you must be an enlightened leader. You are a GREAT asset to to this board with all of your knowledge. Please sir, enlighten us more.

PS: I know you are just in this forum to stir crap up. And I really don't care what you think. Usually when I disagree with someone I do so in a manner that does not degrade them, which is what a "grown man" like yourself should do. Here's a little tidbit that might help you thru life. If you respect other people they generally respect you. Maybe you are just too ignorant to understand that.

Brandon

That's good stuff and your a very funny guy but a bit thinned skinned..Sooooo I'll say and it again, what about a balanced budget buddy? You didn't have a reply to my reply to your challenge about Dem's and I know why, you have none.

Ken Clever from Prescott AZ

My industrial secret is that if you keep flapping your mouth like you do now, the cr** coming out of it will stain your teeth in time.

OH, I just noticed you edited your reply and then became self righteous, good job. My reply above was a answer to one of his deleted remarks.

Take a deep breath, you'll be OK

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

note - on an individual level i dont hold it against anyone. but yeah the party is evil - not so sure all the people who support it are - in fact they are indeed not - but they still havent even seen through what caused the last 8 years - let alone the spin going on now.

as for palin being as qualified as obama. i dont dispute that. i do dispute her ethics - they are speaking for themselves. as well as her honesty - on the facts alone that too is now in question. she didnt try to lessen spending in her state - she still kept the pork barrel spending for the bridge to nowhere - just didnt use it for the bridge lol. she's caught in a lie right now already - with her comments on climate change. i cant trump decades of service for why i support obama. but i can say i support him on the issues. the main ones anyway. economy, foreign and domestic policy, taxes, health care, especially energy. and ya know the funny thing is - i dont think his plans are fool proof or anything - its just that what the republicans have offered is so outright horrible. they arent even offering anything anymore - they are banking on the celebrity of palin to win now - you know it to be true as much as me. as for liberals banking on the same thing with obama - that will be their mistake. he doesnt need celebrity to win - or color or anything like that. i believe the issues the stances of both candidates speak for themselves. folks are talking about who is qualified as if it is a mystery - as if its hard to tell what will happen when said candidate gets in there - lol - just listen to em - its all right there to hear. the reps have been telling nothing but lies as every campaign stop since their VP selection. again not my opinion - but outright fact. the claims they keep making on several things are PROVEN lies. it seems in this country when the media tells the truth for once - its assumes they are lying. and yet when they are lying - or more often just not printing the truth - everyone is fine and ok with it..........go figure.

as for wealth distribution - I'm not that far left man lol! am not communist. but i do think there needs to be more regulation in everything - but regulation with common sense. and that is a large task/challenge.

and for the signature - i'm not applying that to you or anyone else personally. as i said - i am being very broad. mostly just trying to convey that on the real issues that will affect us the next 4 years - it seems pretty black and white - literally lol.

o yeah - my support for dems or obama has nothing to do with hillary clinton. i liked her position on health care - although even i dont believe you should just give it to everyone. not like that. just the same as i have never really agreed with the dems approach to poverty. you should never just give people money regardless of what they do. i believe you should just present them with opportunities they may otherwise not get. not all the poor people in this country are just lazy trash. opportunity is vanishing - i dont care what fudged #'s one looks at. you cant tell me when everything we buy says "made in china" - that we are just full of opportunity. we are not creating jobs at the pace we are losing them. brandon its funny - you and i would actually agree on a ton of stuff. but prob just disagree on the route to get there lol. seriously lol. just finding 2 different ways to get to the same place lol. but no i dont like hillary clinton. i think bill was a decent president. some things of his i had a prob with - the BJ was not one of them. but no mu support initially wayyyy before the primaries was for her. honestly because i was so against everything the reps had come to stand for - but then i kept listening, and watching. by the texas primaries - i thought it was november and she was a republican lol. her campaign was run like how many reps have done it. mudslingin, whisper campaigns. she was redefining flip floppin. being against nafta while her husband as pres was for it - and while her own campaign manager was down in columbia promoting only days before bush starts trumpin it. that said a lot to me right there. i didnt even need to read the news articles about it. it was obvious. then she outright lied about a lot of things - which oddly enough palin is doing now. there are a lot of women who have looked to clinton or palin with hope - i just feel sorry for em. yeah they are getting their female candidates ----- and they may end up being the last. one was a joke who could never even get her own campaign on the right track - and the other is a rookie neo con nut job who keeps lying. although folks seem to not be caring about the lying so...........guess its a forgivable offense. obviously lying isnt to big a deal ---- just look at the republican symbol King George

for anyone who keeps telling me they are voting for mccain ...... um. ok. i'm not gonna take the bait and attack you personally. the only attacks i'll ever put forth are very broad - like to the masses. i dont have any problem with anyone personally. i thought i explained that the 1st round. but i aint takin that bait. if my BROAD thoughts towards the masses do apply to you ------ well that aint exactly my problem - hint hint lol.

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

Yeah I did. It wasn't appropriate, but I only changed about 2 sentences. The thought is still the same, just not as harsh.

How are we going to balance the budget...Well it would help if people individually took care of themselves and quit overspending in such states as CA, AZ, NV, and FL. Due to this big mortgage mess we are further in the hole everyday. I will admit that I don't have all of the government spending reports in front of me, but I'm sure I could but a couple billion from both parties pet projects could be thrown out.

My whole point in this is for you to stop personally attacking people just because they don't agree with you. Your like a teenager behind your computer screen. OKCFan truly believes in what he thinks and he's passionate about it, so I like to debate with him in a good manner. You are just the typical left coast douche rocket that thinks he's better than everyone because he has been enlightened with the liberal doctorine.

Nothing better than a little off-week jabbering.

That's why I put the smiley at the end, because I was just playing with you.

See old man, you could learn from 2 "kids" debating in a respectable manner on here. It is possible to disagree (or not disagree on some things as Cody pointed out) without being harsh.

You have still ducked and ignored your question that I had a answer for smart boy. You asked what had the Dem's ever done for us, meaning you, and I said they balanced the budget for one thing and listed some other things like an illegal war that they hadn't done as well.. Oh, that's right, you were only 13 or 14 years old at that time and it something that you just read about in a book. Trust me, you'll be reading about and living this deficit much longer than the eight years since it was balanced. To bad you aren't as sensitive about the horrendous pain and suffering that the boys you back so blindly have inflicted on the world as you are for yourself. Is that to harsh for you? Tough.

Ron Paul is one Republican that's got most of it right and it's not all about party's. What's it's about is freedom and being a patriot and being a patriot means speaking out against a corrupt Government that's not being held accountable for there illegal and unconstitutional actions.

Kenny

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

hey before i post this article from yahoo's main page - ya'll keep stuff simple - if for no other reason so i can continue to take pleasure in sharing some truths with my fellow cool dirt track lovin americans lol.

anyhow - this is what keeps getting ignored - this info is one damn near any major site you get on. yahoo, aol. i imagine its everywhere except the fox news website lol. for all who blasted on obama's celebrity - start blasting away at your own now. get back to the issues - and surely you'll see the good and bad as clear as black and white. its also funny that mccain thinks his change can be verified - it is being verified everyday and has been ---- and its been nothing but flat out PROVEN LIES.

Palin facing new accusations as US campaign grows negative

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

Hey Cheese21 I with you McCain all the to the White House   okc12  and big fish cant take that now McCain is going to WIN BIG

Man you are a message board pro. I answered your question as to what I would do and now you turn it around again. All I do is get on here to tell you (the supposed grownup) to stop the personal attacks and you change it into what my plan is to fix the country. Wow. What is your plan oh great one?

When the Dems balanced the budget we weren't partaking in the War on Terror and we weren't suffering from one of the biggest bank crisis in the history of the world.

Also you fail to understand that what I am saying that not just 1 party is corrupt as you have explained but all of our government is corrupt. Yes, liberals and conservatives. Repubs and Dems. Alright man I'm done with this, it's time to start building on the motor again. You can go tell all of your message board groupies that you won if you feel like it. The trophies in the mail.

uh-huh

It's simple, the Dems balance the budget so the Repubs can get us into the next war.

ouch - that stings. why piss in my wheaties? lol. j/k.

but seriously man more power to ya - just like the same now supported bush for 2 terms - crap goes massively wrong - and ya'll sit and scratch your heads on why. obviously you dont mind scratchin your head a lil more for another 4 year set ----- just remember there is a fix to that dandruf problem. putting a democratic administration over a democratic congress.

where most the damage was done here was between 2000 and 2006 when reds controlled all 3 branches of government ----- seeing as how King George has turned the white house into a throne of which to commit domestic and foreign atrocities - having a red pres. over a blue congress wont get anything done. give em a chance. if you dont like what the dems do while presding over legislative and executive branches of government - congressional election will take place in 2010 - go a different route then - at least give something new a try - what the reds did really screwed things up a bad one..... at least try to right the ship.

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

Wow Kevin, you started quite a thread here didn't you? lol

GOD, Family, Dirt Track Racing,  OU Football, and the 
Dallas Cowboys is what we live for:)

Hey 12 Do you have wheaties?? Wheaties are for CHAMPIONS

I, totally agree with Cheese on 99.999% of his post.

Although, I do not agree with discussing Politics or Religion on this site. As this is a RACING FORUM.

But since we are into it, OKC do you even posses a current Voter Registration Card. If you are a non-voter maybe you should limit your post. Since you are ineligible to VOTE, Please post your political views elsewhere.

I'm not hiding behind a Helmet. [email protected]

Allen Crawford, (uncle a)

Maybe your the one that shouldn't vote if you had to read ALL the post's before you figured out it was a political thread. OH!, you did know. Then why did you read it all and then pass judgement if you didn't want to see or discuss politics on this forum? You did all that you know, and it makes you look a bit confused or a hypocrite, you pick..LOL

Kenneth Clever, Registered Independent

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

Well well, Mr. Cleaver you must be related to the Beaver.

If you get the opportunity please tell Ward, June, and Wally, that Uncle A, said howdy.lol

I original came over to this forum to see a friend from Oklahoma but after meeting a few of you I understand why he prefers to hang out most often on another forum.

Thanks for the thought Eddie, but it's Clever AKA BIGFISH!

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

Nice fish. You noodle it???