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WFO81
August 10, 2008 at 12:01:56 PM
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Posted By: John Katich on August 10 2008 at 11:19:01 AM

Is the TV show rebroadcast and does anyone know when? I wonder how many people watch the live telecast.



I watched it. The fact that sprint car racing was on TV is great for the sport. The actual coverage, well on my tv in the beginning I had hard time hearing the when the cars came up to speed. It seem to get better after awhile. I think announcer's have a lot to do with whatever sport you watch. The guy with Doty ( I forget his name) I didn't think was all that great. Now maybe sprint car racing isn't his deal, who knows. Bryant Gumble sucked on the NFL channel and he's not their anymore. The in car shots were cool. I keep reading how Walker was passing car's. Never showed it. All in all on tv it did not seem like an exciting race. Which leads me back to the announcer not Doty. Bring some excitement to the game i.e. Johnny Gibson and Bobby Gerould (sp). It is what it is. What are you gonna do about it? That's a quote from the Bubba show.



Stardog
August 10, 2008 at 12:28:23 PM
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Posted By: henry chinaski on August 10 2008 at 02:37:26 AM
Yep I am plenty thankful they broadcast the Nationals. I am however not happy they had the stooge Ken Stout in the booth. The nationals deserve a shot caller who knows their stuff. Not another color commentator. Rob Klepper was a good choice for the technical elements of the coverage.


I think as long as Lucas Oil is involved you'll have Lucas Oil people on the broadcast. (Ken Stout). Is this why Ralph was bumped? Just be thankful thak Lugnutz wasn't roaming the pits! Good call putting Klepper down there.



Speedcaster
August 10, 2008 at 12:31:53 PM
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Posted By: henry chinaski on August 10 2008 at 02:37:26 AM
Yep I am plenty thankful they broadcast the Nationals. I am however not happy they had the stooge Ken Stout in the booth. The nationals deserve a shot caller who knows their stuff. Not another color commentator. Rob Klepper was a good choice for the technical elements of the coverage.


Wow tough room but I would expect nothing less. Thanks for watching though and special thanks to Allen, Bill W. and Hot Rod for all your help last week.

Ken Stout AKA The Stooge




John Katich
August 10, 2008 at 12:43:39 PM
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I am just curious about how many people actually watched the live broadcast. Maybe there were a million or two or three...maybe far less. I have no way of knowing what the espectations were.

As far as announcers...and since I didn't see the telecast I am not discussing specifics about last night's show...they pretty much have to go with what the director and the camera gives them in regards to commentary. Some can do this more seamlessly than others. Many times I've heard TV announcers say that they have to watch the TV monitors rather than the actual race. You can't comment on something the viewers can't see.

I've alsways looked at it this way....when you are watching a race live at the track, you are your own director. Your mind and your eyes follow what you find interesting at the moment and you move around the track, looking at position battles, picking out a car to watch, seeing how someone is searching for a particualr racing line, ect. That keeps you on the edge of your seat and is what makes the experience exciting as far as actually being there. On the other hand, when you watch a TV broadcast, you are getting what the director thinks is worthy. Sometimes, the producers makes the call as far as what the production crew is going to cover during the event. The TV deal can't move around the track like you can with your own mind and eyes, especially something that happens as fast as sprint car racing. It's very limited and therefore, you lean back on your couch and have a relatively passive experience. There is no comparison.

Frankly, I'd be happy just having Kris Krohn shoot the racing action from atop the suites and have actual race commentary. That, however, will never happen because there are too many people and sponsors who need to be taken care of. TV is not about the viewer...primarily it's about sponsors and specific agendas with some race coverage thrown in the mix. .It is what it is, indeed.

Again, does anybody know a rebroadcast time?



WFO81
August 10, 2008 at 01:03:52 PM
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Posted By: John Katich on August 10 2008 at 12:43:39 PM

I am just curious about how many people actually watched the live broadcast. Maybe there were a million or two or three...maybe far less. I have no way of knowing what the espectations were.

As far as announcers...and since I didn't see the telecast I am not discussing specifics about last night's show...they pretty much have to go with what the director and the camera gives them in regards to commentary. Some can do this more seamlessly than others. Many times I've heard TV announcers say that they have to watch the TV monitors rather than the actual race. You can't comment on something the viewers can't see.

I've alsways looked at it this way....when you are watching a race live at the track, you are your own director. Your mind and your eyes follow what you find interesting at the moment and you move around the track, looking at position battles, picking out a car to watch, seeing how someone is searching for a particualr racing line, ect. That keeps you on the edge of your seat and is what makes the experience exciting as far as actually being there. On the other hand, when you watch a TV broadcast, you are getting what the director thinks is worthy. Sometimes, the producers makes the call as far as what the production crew is going to cover during the event. The TV deal can't move around the track like you can with your own mind and eyes, especially something that happens as fast as sprint car racing. It's very limited and therefore, you lean back on your couch and have a relatively passive experience. There is no comparison.

Frankly, I'd be happy just having Kris Krohn shoot the racing action from atop the suites and have actual race commentary. That, however, will never happen because there are too many people and sponsors who need to be taken care of. TV is not about the viewer...primarily it's about sponsors and specific agendas with some race coverage thrown in the mix. .It is what it is, indeed.

Again, does anybody know a rebroadcast time?



Good points! With that said the director had a bad night and maybe Speedcaster should be cut some slack. I did enjoy the Hoseheads broadcast and once again they came across with a lot of energy just what you want when you can't be there.



CarWash Mike
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August 10, 2008 at 01:04:57 PM
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No complaints about the coverage here. Yeah, I would prefer Johnny or Bobby in the booth though. A couple of good spotters might have helepd. At one point we were told the #51 and the #13 were battling. No mention of the drivers names. Also when Roger Crockett flipped at the start of the B main, we went to the commercial break without being told who the driver was.

Kudos as always to the Knoxville Raceway saftey crew. Those guys were moving towards Crockett's car before it even came to a stop.




road king std
August 10, 2008 at 03:55:10 PM
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Posted By: ricci49 on August 10 2008 at 08:37:06 AM

"Dude, what do any of them have to say that I can't see with my own eyes."

Well it might of been nice if Stout would have mentioned the race restart was caused by Tyler Walker jumping the start and was sent to the back of the pack. Then maybe noticing the same driver was blasting from 24th to 10th in 13 laps. There had to be some pretty good moves being put on but viewers will never know because the swamp buggy announcer apparently didn't see a thing.

Later on the pit reporter had an opportunity to ask Walker why he stayed on the track but instead used the opportunity to ask, "what happened to the car." I'm pretty sure everyone already knew the engine blew (my 4 year old grandson did) but oh well, we should all be grateful that they are broadcasting the race. wink I'm sure the job is much harder then it looks.

Thanks SPEED for putting this on the tube. Some of the visuals were outstanding. The front mounted in car camera shots were the best I've seen in Sprint Car racing. Please improve your broadcast team by maybe putting a knowledgeable Sprint Car announcer in the booth next year. At least they kept Brad Doty in the booth!



thanks speed ,i really appreciate the coverage. please keep the cameras on the track,so we can see what's happening.you see one in car shot, you've seen them all.



dirtybeer
August 10, 2008 at 04:04:03 PM
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Posted By: road king std on August 10 2008 at 03:55:10 PM

thanks speed ,i really appreciate the coverage. please keep the cameras on the track,so we can see what's happening.you see one in car shot, you've seen them all.



I agree about the in car cameras,if you want to show that view,show it during hot laps,dont do it during the race.Sprint car races aren't long enough to be playing around with in car cameras,your missing action on the track.



CarWash Mike
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August 10, 2008 at 04:08:24 PM
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"Well it might of been nice if Stout would have mentioned the race restart was caused by Tyler Walker jumping the start and was sent to the back of the pack. Then maybe noticing the same driver was blasting from 24th to 10th in 13 laps. There had to be some pretty good moves being put on but viewers will never know because the swamp buggy announcer apparently didn't see a thing"

I'm quite surprised no one has mentioned the real reason for the yellow flag to bring the restart...We all know it was because Donny had a bad start and fell back to 5th or 6th. wink

 





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