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BigRightRear
February 29, 2008 at 11:54:46 PM
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the good news, you can still buy incandescent lamps for another 9 months...in large quantity at the box stores. that way i can heat my house with the extra electricity as the globe cools and ruins the food supply for you liberal bottom feeders.

and just for the recored. as long as my power bill comes IN MY NAME...Al Gore can stick his agenda where the "SUN don't shine".

have a nice day and remember...if you believe global warming is caused by too many SUVs...global cooling must be caused by TOO FEW SUVs.

drive up, it is later than you think!

 


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Albore said the polar bears are sweating.



that is because the environmentalists (sp?) won't let us take their big heavy coats. lol.



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I guess all the conservative fools in this thread are going to be disappointed no matter what come November. As any 1 of the 3 between Clinton, Obama, and McCain all have pretty substantial plans for climate change.

if this doesn't speak loudly for many things. support a war on evidence that turns up completely false (that was known at the time by our leaders as completely false) - but don't support a FACT supported by the best minds on the planet who have spent their entire lives studying it. Man not only am I obviously in America. I'm right smack in the middle of senseless redneck hell..............

people been bringin crap like this up for a couple months now. I find I like everyone in here much more when talking anything but politics. for all the BS of how no one wanted to hear politics when it was being hashed out last year - it's funny the same people all of a sudden have a knack for it. hypocrisy?


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BigRightRear
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in complete deinial of 5 expert sources on climate change...dats some good chit you smokin!

by November you will lucky if Obama and HRC are done SUING EACH OTHER for the nomination...and I am completely entertained by the wrestling mentality that has swept the democrat electorate...mean, hateful, spiteful and devicive VENOM flows at every Clinton gathering!


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more good news for Al Gore fans!

Climate panel on the hot seat

By H. Sterling Burnett
March 14, 2008

More than 20 years ago, climate scientists began to raise alarms over the possibility global temperatures were rising due to human activities, such as deforestation and the burning of fossil fuels.

To better understand this potential threat, the World Meteorological Organization and the United Nations created the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in 1988 to provide a "comprehensive, objective, scientific, technical and socioeconomic assessment of human-caused climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation."

IPCC reports have predicted average world temperatures will increase dramatically, leading to the spread of tropical diseases, severe drought, the rapid melting of the world's glaciers and ice caps, and rising sea levels. However, several assessments of the IPCC's work have shown the techniques and methods used to derive its climate predictions are fundamentally flawed.

In a 2001 report, the IPCC published an image commonly referred to as the "hockey stick." This graph showed relatively stable temperatures from A.D. 1000 to 1900, with temperatures rising steeply from 1900 to 2000. The IPCC and public figures, such as former Vice President Al Gore, have used the hockey stick to support the conclusion that human energy use over the last 100 years has caused unprecedented rise global warming.

However, several studies cast doubt on the accuracy of the hockey stick, and in 2006 Congress requested an independent analysis of it. A panel of statisticians chaired by Edward J. Wegman, of George Mason University, found significant problems with the methods of statistical analysis used by the researchers and with the IPCC's peer review process. For example, the researchers who created the hockey stick used the wrong time scale to establish the mean temperature to compare with recorded temperatures of the last century. Because the mean temperature was low, the recent temperature rise seemed unusual and dramatic. This error was not discovered in part because statisticians were never consulted.

Furthermore, the community of specialists in ancient climates from which the peer reviewers were drawn was small and many of them had ties to the original authors — 43 paleoclimatologists had previously coauthored papers with the lead researcher who constructed the hockey stick.

These problems led Mr. Wegman's team to conclude that the idea that the planet is experiencing unprecedented global warming "cannot be supported."

The IPCC published its Fourth Assessment Report in 2007 predicting global warming will lead to widespread catastrophe if not mitigated, yet failed to provide the most basic requirement for effective climate policy: accurate temperature statistics. A number of weaknesses in the measurements include the fact temperatures aren't recorded from large areas of the Earth's surface and many weather stations once in undeveloped areas are now surrounded by buildings, parking lots and other heat-trapping structures resulting in an urban-heat-island effect.

Even using accurate temperature data, sound forecasting methods are required to predict climate change. Over time, forecasting researchers have compiled 140 principles that can be applied to a broad range of disciplines, including science, sociology, economics and politics.

In a recent NCPA study, Kesten Green and J. Scott Armstrong used these principles to audit the climate forecasts in the Fourth Assessment Report. Messrs. Green and Armstrong found the IPCC clearly violated 60 of the 127 principles relevant in assessing the IPCC predictions. Indeed, it could only be clearly established that the IPCC followed 17 of the more than 127 forecasting principles critical to making sound predictions.

A good example of a principle clearly violated is "Make sure forecasts are independent of politics." Politics shapes the IPCC from beginning to end. Legislators, policymakers and/or diplomatic appointees select (or approve) the scientists — at least the lead scientists — who make up the IPCC. In addition, the summary and the final draft of the IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report was written in collaboration with political appointees and subject to their approval.

Sadly, Mr. Green and Mr. Armstrong found no evidence the IPCC was even aware of the vast literature on scientific forecasting methods, much less applied the principles.

The IPCC and its defenders often argue that critics who are not climate scientists are unqualified to judge the validity of their work. However, climate predictions rely on methods, data and evidence from other fields of expertise, including statistical analysis and forecasting. Thus, the work of the IPCC is open to analysis and criticism from other disciplines.

The IPCC's policy recommendations are based on flawed statistical analyses and procedures that violate general forecasting principles. Policymakers should take this into account before enacting laws to counter global warming — which economists point out would have severe economic consequences.

H. Sterling Burnett is a senior fellow with the National Center for Policy Analysis, a nonpartisan, nonprofit research institute in Dallas.


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ABC News Report on Climate Change

 


 

 

 

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Sure wish some of the warming BS would happen in Iowa now.

Worst winter in years.

oh ya, that is a side effect of global warming, I forgot.

I don't doubt the warming, just the cause.


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Smog rule tightened; 345 counties fail

By H. JOSEF HEBERT, Associated Press Writer Wed Mar 12, 7:25 PM ET

WASHINGTON - The air in hundreds of U.S. counties is simply too dirty to breathe, the government said Wednesday, ordering a multibillion-dollar expansion of efforts to clean up smog in cities and towns nationwide.

The Environmental Protection Agency announced it was tightening the amount of ozone, commonly known as smog, that will be allowed in the air. But the lower standard still falls short of what most health experts say is needed to significantly reduce heart and asthma attacks from breathing smog-clogged air...

Alabama: Baldwin, Jefferson, Madison, Mobile, Morgan, Shelby.

Alaska: None.

Arizona: Gila, Maricopa, Pima, Pinal.

Arkansas: Crittenden, Pulaski.

California: Alameda, Amador, Butte, Calaveras, El Dorado, Fresno, Imperial, Inyo, Kern, Kings, Los Angeles, Madera, Mariposa, Merced, Nevada, Orange, Placer, Riverside, Sacramento, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Joaquin, Santa Clara, Shasta, Stanislaus, Sutter, Tehama, Tulare, Tuolumne, Ventura, Yolo.

Colorado: Arapahoe, Douglas, Jefferson, Weld.

Connecticut: Fairfield, Hartford, Litchfield, Middlesex, New Haven, New London, Tolland.

Delaware: Kent, New Castle, Sussex.

Florida: Bay, Duval, Escambia, Hillsborough, Lake, Manatee, Orange, Sarasota, Seminole.

Georgia: Bibb, Clarke, Cobb, Coweta, DeKalb, Douglas, Fayette, Fulton, Gwinnett, Henry, Murray, Paulding, Richmond, Rockdale.

Hawaii: None.

Idaho: Ada.

Illinois: Jersey, Lake, Madison, Saint Clair.

Indiana: Allen, Boone, Clark, Elkart, Greene, Hamilton, Johnson, Lake, LaPorte, Marion, Perry, Porter, St. Joseph, Warrick.

Iowa: None.

Kansas: None.

Kentucky: Boyd, Christian, Greenup, Jefferson, Kenton, Oldham.

Louisiana: Ascension, Bossier, Caddo, Calcasieu, East Baton Rouge, Iberville, Jefferson, Lafourche, Livingston, Ouachita, Pointe Coupee, St. Charles, St. James, St. John the Baptist, West Baton Rouge.

Maine: Hancock.

Maryland: Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Carroll, Cecil, Charles, Frederick, Harford, Kent, Montgomery, Prince George's, Washington.

Massachusetts: Barnstable, Berkshire, Bristol, Dukes, Essex, Hampden, Hampshire, Middlesex, Norfolk, Suffolk, Worcester.

Michigan: Allegan, Benzie, Berrien, Cass, Genesee, Kent, Lenawee, Macomb, Mason, Muskegon, Ottawa, Schoolcraft, St. Clair, Washtenaw.

Minnesota: None.

Mississippi: DeSoto, Harrison, Jackson.

Missouri: Clay, Clinton, Jefferson, Saint Charles, Saint Louis, Sainte Genevieve, St. Louis City.

Montana: None.

Nebraska: None.

Nevada: Clark.

New Hampshire: Hillsborough.

New Jersey: Atlantic, Bergen, Camden, Cumberland, Gloucester, Hudson, Hunterdon, Mercer, Middlesex, Monmouth, Morris, Ocean, Passaic.

New Mexico: None.

New York: Chautauqua, Erie, Essex, Niagara, Orange, Oswego, Putnam, Queens, Rensselaer, Richmond, Saratoga, Suffolk, Ulster, Westchester.

North Carolina: Cumberland, Davie, Forsyth, Franklin, Graham, Granville, Haywood, Johnston, Lincoln, Mecklenburg, Person, Rowan, Union, Wake.

North Dakota: None.

Ohio: Allen, Ashtabula, Butler, Clark, Clermont, Clinton, Cuyahoga, Delaware, Franklin, Geauga, Greene, Hamilton, Jefferson, Knox, Lake, Licking, Lucas, Madison, Mahoning, Medina, Portage, Stark, Summit, Trumbull, Warren, Washington, Wood.

Oklahoma: Canadian, Cherokee, Comanche, Creek, Kay, Mayes, Oklahoma, Ottawa, Tulsa.

Oregon: None.

Pennsylvania: Allegheny, Armstrong, Beaver, Bucks, Centre, Chester, Clearfield, Dauphin, Delaware, Erie, Greene, Lancaster, Lehigh, Lycoming, Mercer, Montgomery, Northampton, Perry, Philadelphia, Tioga, Washington, Westmoreland, York.

Rhode Island: Kent, Providence, Washington.

South Carolina: Abbeville, Aiken, Darlington, Pickens, Richland, Spartanburg, York.

South Dakota: None.

Tennessee: Anderson, Blount, Davidson, Hamilton, Jefferson, Knox, Loudon, Meigs, Sevier, Shelby, Sullivan, Sumner, Wilson.

Texas: Bexar, Brazoria, Collin, Dallas, Denton, El Paso, Ellis, Galveston, Gregg, Harris, Harrison, Hood, Hunt, Jefferson, Johnson, Montgomery, Orange, Parker, Rockwall, Smith, Tarrant, Travis.

Utah: Davis, Salt Lake, Utah, Washington, Weber.

Vermont: None.

Virginia: Alexandria City, Arlington, Caroline, Charles City, Chesterfield, Fairfax, Hampton City, Hanover, Henrico, Loudoun, Madison, Prince William, Stafford, Suffolk City.

Washington: None.

Washington, D.C.: Washington, D.C.

West Virginia: Cabell, Ohio, Wood.

Wisconsin: Door, Kenosha, Kewaunee, Manitowoc, Milwaukee, Ozaukee, Racine, Sheboygan.

Wyoming: None.


 

 

 

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Extreme weather sucks, pollution sucks, diminished coastlines suck... too bad the powers that be of this the richest country on Earth are lobbied to care less.

The Kyoto Protocol now covers more than 170 countries globally and more than 60% of countries in terms of global greenhouse gas emissions. As of December 2007, the US and Kazakhstan are the only signatory nations not to have ratified the act.


 

 

 

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BigRightRear
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and China has 16 of the worst polluted cities on Earth...the same Earth that got COOLER in spite of all of the liberal horse shit added together!

get out your coats and the horse shit meter, global cooling actually causes more pollution that global warming!


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Global warming and Kyoto brought to us by the wack jobs of the world....We should be thankful that we have not signed that bogus POS yet as we would be paying soooooooooo much more than we are now... It's just another way to get into our pockets to pay for the rest of the world.... It'a a hoax!!!!




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You're right, pollution is good...lol. God bless conservatism.


 

 

 

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Typical lib hypocrite...........

 

 

Kennedy dumping diesel fuel into Nantucket Sound to boot

The yacht Mya discharges oil into Sound after 2002 Figawi Race
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This photograph was taken from shore when the photographer saw Ted Kennedy (the larger shape in the Hyannisport Yacht Club Launch on right) leaving the yacht Mya while it was discharging oil into Nantucket Sound. Photos courtesy Peter Robbins

Politician becomes polluter on "pristine Nantucket Sound"

By Walter Brooks

By now every Cape Codder has heard our senior US senator Ted Kennedy proclaiming his resistence to the Cape Wind project on Nantucket Sound because, as he said, "that's where I sail."

oiltkdieselbilge_400He has called Nantucket Sound "a national treasure", but his love and respect doesn't not extend to his own habits as these photos of him dumping diesel fuel from the bilge of his yacht Mya into the same waters he tries to prevent others from using for renewable energy projects.

The photographer was so shocked as the scene unfolded on the day that the 2002 Figawi Race ended in Hyannis, that he put his dingy into the water and rowed out to question the crew member left aboard Mya that May day.

After he approached the yacht the diesel slick coming from Mya was clear and spreading.

He asked the crewman "what the hell are you doing?"

The crewman told him that diesel had gotten into the bilge and he was ordered to dump it.

When told that he was moored in coastal waters near shellfish beds and people swimming, the man replied, "whatever."

F. Scott Fitzgerald's character Gatsby was right when he said, "the rich are different than you and I."



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but, but, but, I didn't mean to drive off that bridge


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You're right, pollution is good...lol. God bless conservatism.



care to name the biggest polluting US city and how it rates with the REST of the planet?

 

or would it be too risky for you to compare filthy liberals with the third world?


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care to name the biggest polluting US city and how it rates with the REST of the planet?

 

or would it be too risky for you to compare filthy liberals with the third world?



No need to start pointing fingers...lol. And be careful, don't forget your original stance that a little pollution never hurt anything anyway...lol. Besides Asia already owns half of America, it's theirs to do with what they please. Maybe we should have been a little more concerned with being the LEADER of the free world over the past decade instead of following Communist China around like a dog in heat, outsourcing our country away for a CHEAP BUCK. God bless conservatism.

Article: Pollution from China's coal fired plants takes only 5 to 10 days to reach US.


 

 

 

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a little never did hurt anything...thats why they do not black flag Raher when his car smokes for a few laps.

your comment about China may be correct, but by the time that pollution gets to the west coast idt has been dispersed by global warming / cooling or whatever cover phrase you are using this year (climate change?).

with this news of 16 of the earth's worst citiy being in CHine, it is time to EXPORT LIBERAL ENVORINMENTAL KOOKS TO CHINS TO COMPLETE THEIR MISSIONARY WORK.

here is a tip for you: while you are over there sniiffing the air...don't drink the water, it was bad 3 years ago and is only getting worse. maybe it is time that YOU talk to the democrats shopping at Walmart about this...

Waste Dumping Threatens the Yangtze River

Seven Major Rivers in China Are Endangered

By Wang Zhen
Epoch Times Staff
Dec 27, 2005

Caption: The banks of the Yangtze River in Yichang City, Hubei Province. Almost 30 billion tons of waste water were discharged into the Yangtze River in 2004. The water quality of the Yangtze River is worsening. (Getty Images)
High-res image (3000 x 2000 px, 300 dpi)

Among the seven major rivers in China, the Yangtze and Pearl Rivers have always been considered less polluted, when compared to other rivers such as the Haihe River, the Liaohe River, Yellow River, Huaihe River, and the Songhua River. However, with industrial and economic development in the deltas of the Yangtze and Pearl Rivers, industrial waste is compromising water quality. Recently, the Yangtze River Water Conservancy Committee published a report which stated that 28.8 billion tons of waste water was discharged into the Yangtze River in 2004. The water quality of the Yangtze River is worsening. Environmental protection experts warn that if the authorities don't take immediate action to protect the Yangtze, it will become another "Yellow River" in ten years.

The Yangtze River basin covers approximately 1.8 million square kilometers (70,000 square miles) in 19 provinces in China. It encompasses more than 33 percent of the nation's population, produces 33 percent of the nation's food, creates 33 percent of China's GDP, and provides 36.5 percent of China's water resources.

The Yangtze River Water Conservancy Committee recently published "A Report on the Water of the Yangtze River Tributary System." According to the study, the Yangtze River Bureau rated 72.5 percent of the Yangtze River system [37,447 kilometers long (23,404 miles)] with a water quality index of 1, 2, and 3, with 3 representing a better water quality rating. The water quality below level 3 has increased from 22.5 percent last year to 27.5 percent this year. This included 7 percent in level 4, and 5 percent in level 5, with the remaining 15.5 percent characterized as below level 5. The water quality of the Yangtze River is progressively deteriorating.

Wang Weiluo, a hydrologist from China who presently lives in Germany, told The Epoch Times , "The assessment of water resources is classified into 5 levels in China. Levels 1 and 2 were classified as drinking water before. After 1990, the water quality in China progressively deteriorated, so the authorities changed the entire standard of classification. They changed level 3 up to drinking water ratings. Take the concrete pollution index COD (Chemical Oxygen Demand) as an example. Level 1 water is the same as level 3 was in 1990, which was level 5 in 1980."

About 700 to 800 million people in China are drinking polluted water

The latest report released by the Yangtze River Water Conservancy Committee pointed out that the amount of waste water discharged into the Yangtze River was about 28.8 billion tons in 2004, which includes 30 percent domestic waste water and 70 percent industrial waste water. Compared to 1999, the amount of waste water in the Yangtze River has increased 40 percent. In 1970, the waste water drainage into the Yangtze River was only 9.5 billion tons, and in 1980 it was 15 billion tons.

The waste water in the Yangtze River is mainly from regions that have been experiencing rapid developing economies. According to official media, an important factor of the pollution in the Yangtze River is the large and medium cities along the river, such as Shanghai, Nanjing, Wuhan, Chongqing, etc., which worsen the pollution. Only 50 percent of waste water is treated in major cities along the Yangtze River. It is even lower in medium and small cities.

With the rapid increase of the waste water discharged into the Yangtze River, the sources of drinking water in more than 500 cities along the Yangtze River are adversely affected.

According to the investigation by the environmental departments for the seven major rivers in China, the pollution levels from the most serious to the least are the Haihe River, Liaohe River, Yellow River, Huaihe River, Songhua River, Yangtze River, and Pearl River. The head of the Ministry of Hydrology in China, Wang Shucheng, admitted that more than 300 million people in the rural areas of China drink unsafe water. The water is also seriously polluted in a large number of cities, which has threatened people's health and lives.

Wang Weluo pointed out that the figure quoted by the Hydrology Minister is not accurate. Actually, about 700-800 million people in China are drinking polluted water. He said that the Huaihe River, Yellow River, Haihe River, and Liaohe River are seriously polluted. Now, the water quality of 28 percent of the Yangtze River is also at level 4 and 5. The quality of the drinking water in these areas is not certified.

Long-term pumping of ground water has almost exhausted sources in northern China

Because water pollution has worsened, due to economic development, China's water crisis becomes more serious by the day. According to official sources, about 400 of 669 Chinese cities have a water shortage. One hundred ten of these cities have a severe shortage. Nationwide, there is a 6 billion cubic meter (1,585 billion gallon) shortage of water.

People in China have turned to ground water when there is not enough surface water or because the surface water has been polluted. In many areas in northern China, excessive use of ground water has almost exhausted supplies. Because of the long-term and excessive pumping of ground water, half of the urban districts in mainland China at present have serious ground water pollution and other environmental consequences, such as land settling.

According to an evaluation taken in October 2003 of China's ground water sources, excessive pumping of ground water has caused land settling covering a total area of 37 million acres and has formed over 100 sinkholes. On the northern plains of the Haihe River, there is a single settling area of 17 million acres, the largest in the nation. On the south side of the Yangtze River delta, pumping has also caused the ground to settle and formed open fissures in some areas. The settling has caused an economic loss in the Yangtze delta area of nearly 350 billion yuan (US$43 billion).

Pollution causes water shortages in southern China, preventing economic development

In northern China, there are severe water shortages. However in areas of southern China, they have water, but aren't able to use it. Neglecting to treat sewage water before releasing it into the rivers has polluted their water sources. This phenomenon is more obvious in areas of high economic development such as Jiangsu, Zhejiang, and Guangdong provinces.

For example: In Zhejiang province, there is a serious shortage of water in Ningpo city, at an intersection of the Yong River, Yao River, and Fenghua River, at Zhoushan city. In the urban district of Yiwu City, an international trade city, there are occasions when only 9 hours of running water is available during a week. Yiwu's water use for an average person is only 25 percent of the national average.

In recent years, Guangdong province, which is an area with plentiful rain and water supplied by the Pearl River which passes through it, has even been facing a problem of water shortages! The Bureau of Geological Prospecting and Surveying of Guangdong Province predicted that by 2010, Guangdong will have a shortage of 2,181 billion gallons of water. Starting from the 1980s with the rapid economic development in Guangdong, water pollution became more serious by the day. The rivers that pass through cities have nearly all been polluted. Many rivers are already untreatable.

Pearl River Water Conservancy Committee official Yue Zhongming, once pointed out that uncontrolled economic development is the reason for the Pearl River's pollution. Large amounts of pollutants being discharged into the river surpassed the river's natural ability to purify itself. The severe lack of water near the Yangtze and Pearl River deltas will pose a challenge to continuing economic development.

Water crisis challenges the nation's survival

Water conservation expert Wang Weiluo believes that the reason for the rapid worsening of water quality in China is the Chinese Communist Party's policy towards economic development: economic development and making money is its most important objective. He said that the CCP's model for economic development is "money, not lives." It sacrifices the living environment for all Chinese people and their descendents, just to maintain their so-called accelerated economic growth.

Why can't China's environmental pollution be cured like it was in Western countries, instead of becoming more and more serious? Zheng Yi, the author of China's Ecological Winter, thinks that the main reason is the system. More specifically, the property rights and obligations of the lands and natural resources are undefined, which makes them more susceptible to pollution (i.e. no one takes responsibility to protect the natural resources). He gave an example, compared to democratic countries in the West, environmental pollution is much worse in all current and former communist countries.

Zheng Yi pointed out, "Mountains, rivers, and land are the basic requirements for survival. China's Yellow River has already dried up in some areas; it is basically dead. The Yangtze River has a bit more time left, because of its large volume of water, but it too is headed down the Yellow River's path. The destruction of these natural resources is an enormous sin. Our descendents will live in a difficult and desperate environment."


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This message was edited on March 16, 2008 at 07:36:13 AM by cubicdollars

Hey, don't drag Rahmer into it now...lol. I'd be happy at this point if we just tried to clean up Central PA...lol. EVERYONE hates a hypocrite, including China. America has been the poster child for hypocrisy for way too long now. Time to start cleaning out the self righteous from the top down...lol. God bless conservatism.


 

 

 

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BigRightRear
March 16, 2008 at 09:14:59 AM
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so if I donate the cubicdollars required for your slow boat trip to China to fullfill the enviro-mantra where it would really count...would you go?


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
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weather." Van May



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