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cubicdollars
January 29, 2008 at 08:07:39 PM
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What should a unified IRL & Champ Car be called?
Option's Votes  
Indy Racing League 2 12 %
IRL IndyCar Series 1 6 %
IndyCar Series 7 41 %
Just IndyCar like NASCAR 3 18 %
IndyCar World Series 2 12 %
Champ Car World Series 0 0 %
Champ Car or ChampCar 0 0 %
Should have a new name 2 12 %
Total Votes 17  

If the IRL and Champ Car were to become unified again what should it be called? I always thought the name Indy Racing League was a little cheesy myself, Champ Car World Series even sounded better. The IRL looks like they officially go by the name IRL IndyCar Series now. I always just liked IndyCar Series myself, maybe they ought to just drop the Indy Racing League moniker altogether to help smooth out some of the egos involved? Calling it the IndyCar World Series even combines the two? Or maybe they should just call it something different altogether? What should it be?



 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



dbamber
January 29, 2008 at 08:41:07 PM
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who really gives a sh............t!

racinrebel
January 29, 2008 at 08:48:28 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on January 29 2008 at 08:07:39 PM

If the IRL and Champ Car were to become unified again what should it be called? I always thought the name Indy Racing League was a little cheesy myself, Champ Car World Series even sounded better. The IRL looks like they officially go by the name IRL IndyCar Series now. I always just liked IndyCar Series myself, maybe they ought to just drop the Indy Racing League moniker altogether to help smooth out some of the egos involved? Calling it the IndyCar World Series even combines the two? Or maybe they should just call it something different altogether? What should it be?




The " NASCART Indy Car Series "


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cubicdollars
January 29, 2008 at 09:46:19 PM
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This message was edited on January 29, 2008 at 10:05:11 PM by cubicdollars
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Posted By: dbamber on January 29 2008 at 08:41:07 PM
who really gives a sh............t!


Man, open wheel must really be in sad shape. I don't even see this much disgust when someone tries to bring up nascar...lol.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


jeff24
January 29, 2008 at 09:47:07 PM
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The " NASCART Indy Car Series "



European Open Wheel Series


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elected again he wouldn't have to worry about an 
electorate in 2016 so the sky is the limit.And his EPA 
would continue to put the screws to oil drilling and 
mining for coal.Can you say bankruptcy.

cubicdollars
January 29, 2008 at 09:59:22 PM
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Posted By: jeff24 on January 29 2008 at 09:47:07 PM

European Open Wheel Series



I'm starting to see where your disgust is coming from...lol.

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Driver Country Tires/Engine/Chassis Team
1 Sebastien Bourdais France France Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Newman/ Haas/ Lanigan Racing
4 Dan Clarke England England Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Minardi Team USA
Ryan Dalziel Scotland Scotland Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Pacific Coast Motorsports
28 Mario Dominguez Mexico Mexico Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Pacific Coast Motorsports
14 Robert Doornbos Netherlands Netherlands Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Minardi Team USA
29 Alex Figge USA USA Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Pacific Coast Motorsports
Tristan Gommendy France France Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 PKV Racing
Jan Heylen Belgium Belgium Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Conquest Racing
21 Neel Jani Switzerland Switzerland Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 PKV Racing
19 Bruno Junqueira Brazil Brazil Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Dale Coyne Racing
11 Katherine Legge England England Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Dale Coyne Racing
7 David Martinez Mexico Mexico Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Forsythe Pettit Racing
15 Simon Pagenaud France France Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Team Australia
34 Nelson Philippe France France Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Conquest Racing
5 Will Power Australia Australia Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Team Australia
2 Graham Rahal USA USA Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Newman/ Haas/ Lanigan Racing
22 Oriol Servia Spain Spain Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 PKV Racing
8 Alex Tagliani Canada Canada Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Rocketsports Racing
3 Paul Tracy Canada Canada Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 Forsythe Pettit Racing
9 Justin Wilson United Kingdom United Kingdom Bridgestone/Cosworth/DP01 RuSPORT


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



SJFast
January 30, 2008 at 04:11:20 AM
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I'll have a renewed interest in Indy when it becomes an American sport again. I couldn't care less who the "best" road racers are. When at least a third of the "Indy-whatever" championship points are paid in midgets, sprint cars, and dirt champs....CALL ME !


Until then....irrelevant.


Fenders ? We don't need no stinking fenders !!!

Offie
January 30, 2008 at 05:27:16 AM
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Open wheel racing is dying a modern day death. The Indy/IRL has probably passed the point of no return unless a whole different "car" is born. Even sprint cars are losing market to dirt late models although traditional sprints seem to be gaining momentum. I 'm seeing a growth in go kart activity, especially the more sophistacted shifters on pavement. They are about at the cost of sprint car racing in the sixties. Open wheel racing is getting too costly to prosper I'm afraid.



BigRightRear
January 30, 2008 at 10:30:58 AM
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WRGAS - Who Really Gives A Shit works for me, until they decide to put the engine in the front of the car where it belongs.

 

 


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
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brian26
January 30, 2008 at 11:33:48 AM
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WRGAS - Who Really Gives A Shit works for me, until they decide to put the engine in the front of the car where it belongs.

 

 



Amen




brian26
January 30, 2008 at 11:34:23 AM
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I'll have a renewed interest in Indy when it becomes an American sport again. I couldn't care less who the "best" road racers are. When at least a third of the "Indy-whatever" championship points are paid in midgets, sprint cars, and dirt champs....CALL ME !


Until then....irrelevant.



Amen again




t-dub
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January 30, 2008 at 01:22:30 PM
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How 'bout this: The "Championship Racing And Performance" series, or the CRAP series for short...... Smile Smile Smile


SUPPORT WILDLIFE, go to a sprint car race! 


50thStater
January 30, 2008 at 05:43:12 PM
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I attended the Champ Car Grand Prix of Long Beach a few years ago, mostly because I just happened to be in the neighborhood on raceday but also to satisfy my curiosity. It was o.k. but I probably wouldn't go back again unless someone had an extra ticket and invited me along. Pretty much the same story for an IRL race I went to at California Speedway. The only things that stand out about that event was the fact that the cars were louder than I'd anticipated and the fact that I saw one of the most beautiful women I've ever laid eyes on. She was working as an usher, showing people to their seats. I'd pay to see her before I'd pay to see the Indy Cars race again, (the only suspense generated by the race was wondering whether they'd go the distance before a weather system moved in). Pretty sad in light of the fact that I consider myself a motorsports enthusiast. Unless things change dramatically I think the IRL, Champ Car or any combination thereof is rapidly becoming a non issue for most people. I'm not sure if there's anything that can, or could have been done to avoid this. Times change, people change, tastes change. (Drifting for example, yeah, go figure). Formula One has also lost much of its luster and mystique. Nascar is currently riding the crest of a wave but I think that wave will level off soon and then slowly recede unless they can produce some new drivers who will continue to capture people's interest. The golden age of motorsports has come and gone. If anyone out there can convince me otherwise, believe me, I'd love to hear it!



BigRightRear
January 30, 2008 at 08:11:58 PM
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i'd go to Indy if they ran SUPERS instead...make those rich kids drive a real race car.


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

t-dub
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January 30, 2008 at 08:32:03 PM
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i'd go to Indy if they ran SUPERS instead...make those rich kids drive a real race car.



NOW YOU'RE TALKIN' !!! I miss the supers in Phoenix at the "Copper World". ISC F---ed up that event when they replaced the Supers and the Southwest Tour with the Indycars and the Indy lites. After ten years of attending that event (and Manzy in the evenings Smile ) I will NEVER go back.......


SUPPORT WILDLIFE, go to a sprint car race! 


brian26
January 30, 2008 at 09:06:15 PM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on January 30 2008 at 08:11:58 PM

i'd go to Indy if they ran SUPERS instead...make those rich kids drive a real race car.



Yes sir!

I believe the roadsters would have evolved to a very close version of the pavement supers had the change not been made in the middle 60's. Nascar would still be in second place had things been like that.

See BRR? We don't disagree on everything.




BIGFISH
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January 30, 2008 at 09:27:00 PM
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NOW YOU'RE TALKIN' !!! I miss the supers in Phoenix at the "Copper World". ISC F---ed up that event when they replaced the Supers and the Southwest Tour with the Indycars and the Indy lites. After ten years of attending that event (and Manzy in the evenings Smile ) I will NEVER go back.......



It might have been pavement but the gathering of the clan was something I looked forward to all year long and the programs were the best, glad I saved them. Running over to Manzy for that show, well what weekends we had, makes me smile just to think about how lucky we were.

classic88-1.jpg picture by grouper01


Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

BigRightRear
January 31, 2008 at 09:22:16 AM
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Posted By: brian26 on January 30 2008 at 09:06:15 PM

Yes sir!

I believe the roadsters would have evolved to a very close version of the pavement supers had the change not been made in the middle 60's. Nascar would still be in second place had things been like that.

See BRR? We don't disagree on everything.



yeah...every so often you wake up to reality!

just kidding of course...have a good day.


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May


t-dub
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January 31, 2008 at 09:57:27 AM
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It might have been pavement but the gathering of the clan was something I looked forward to all year long and the programs were the best, glad I saved them. Running over to Manzy for that show, well what weekends we had, makes me smile just to think about how lucky we were.

classic88-1.jpg picture by grouper01



Nice cover! Billy Vukovich in the Vernon Rietz "Spirit of Madera" super, Bob Frey in the Glen Neibel V-6 sprinter, Rich Vogler in the midget, not sure who is in the stock car. Legendary names, in what used to be a legendary race.......We were lucky to witness it.............Smile


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BIGFISH
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January 31, 2008 at 03:08:41 PM
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t-dub, those are the 87 winners and Gary Collins won the stock cars and that's Robby flock in the Midget. Easy to get that one wrong. Richie won it in 88 and 89 then Stanley in 90, that was the start of a long list of wins for that Beast #9.classic91.jpg picture by grouper01


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