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WingedSpeed
October 16, 2024 at 03:12:15 PM
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A few rumors swirling around about Freddie leaving the 8 car.  Fact or fiction?




bbqking
October 16, 2024 at 03:39:13 PM
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Maybe he goes to CJB 5. Chase Raudman said the new driver would be a surprise to most. I think Fred drove for the team years ago.



WingedSpeed
October 16, 2024 at 03:43:13 PM
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Posted By: bbqking on October 16 2024 at 03:39:13 PM

Maybe he goes to CJB 5. Chase Raudman said the new driver would be a surprise to most. I think Fred drove for the team years ago.



Not a chance.  Not sure they get along all that well.

 




Parnelli1970
October 16, 2024 at 03:45:27 PM
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Posted By: bbqking on October 16 2024 at 03:39:13 PM

Maybe he goes to CJB 5. Chase Raudman said the new driver would be a surprise to most. I think Fred drove for the team years ago.



Fred didn't have a good run for CBJ and wasn't happy how he was treated ended up in the Sell 20s and had a good final year.



WingedSpeed
October 16, 2024 at 03:46:39 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on October 16 2024 at 03:45:27 PM

Fred didn't have a good run for CBJ and wasn't happy how he was treated ended up in the Sell 20s and had a good final year.



Correct so I dont see that happening.



bbqking
October 16, 2024 at 03:49:38 PM
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Fair enough




brewer1s
October 16, 2024 at 07:20:25 PM
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Its definitely not him going to the cbj car



Parnelli1970
October 16, 2024 at 08:08:46 PM
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Posted By: brewer1s on October 16 2024 at 07:20:25 PM

Its definitely not him going to the cbj car



Oops my bad CJB.



beezr2002
October 17, 2024 at 08:35:37 AM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on October 16 2024 at 03:12:15 PM

A few rumors swirling around about Freddie leaving the 8 car.  Fact or fiction?



Maybe there will be no red #8 next year?




JT22
October 17, 2024 at 08:55:47 AM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on October 16 2024 at 03:12:15 PM

A few rumors swirling around about Freddie leaving the 8 car.  Fact or fiction?



If Rahmer is out of the 8 I could see Borden taking over the Eichelberger 8. It's pretty much confirmed that Whittall will be the new driver of the Stehman 23 full time.



saphead
October 17, 2024 at 09:18:55 AM
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I'd refuse to drive that car too until they get a properly sized # on the top wing. 

Can't Black Beard or YAK offer some pro bono work? 

 

 



Johnny Utah
October 18, 2024 at 03:57:30 PM
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Posted By: saphead on October 17 2024 at 09:18:55 AM

I'd refuse to drive that car too until they get a properly sized # on the top wing. 

Can't Black Beard or YAK offer some pro bono work? 

 

 



I love the attention to detail. I'd guess it's the same size as Schatz's 15, but it is placed weirdly on the wing.




SpcJay
October 21, 2024 at 07:17:59 AM
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Posted By: bbqking on October 16 2024 at 03:39:13 PM

Maybe he goes to CJB 5. Chase Raudman said the new driver would be a surprise to most. I think Fred drove for the team years ago.



Brenham Crouch will be the new driver of the 5 car. It was previously annouced that Tye Wolfgang would be going to CJB as crewchief as well, but he's staying with KKR now in a bigger role with the 49 car while the 49 crewchief moves over to the 9 car.



hiroshimacarp
October 22, 2024 at 06:54:20 AM
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i was thinking yesterday when i was running past the grove that central pa needs a new hero.  a few years ago we had dewease, montieth, logan wagner, ryan smith, and greg hodnett who i think everyone would agree were great guys that were also competitive.  macri can be a brat but he at least backs it up.  dewease and wagner are still around but not running near the level they were just a couple years ago.

we're basically left with guys who are trying to prove themselves with rahmer and dietrich.  i've seen rahmer put the snow plow on enough times to know that's who he is.  he plays victim and then sends somebody upside down.  dietrich often does a disappearing act for weeks if not months at a time despite all his talk.  he did nothing after somehow he cleaned up at the weikert back in may.

tj stutts winning against the outlaws was a great night.  it would be great if guys like stutts and chad trout could be up front more often.  



onporch
October 22, 2024 at 09:27:10 AM
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on October 22 2024 at 06:54:20 AM

i was thinking yesterday when i was running past the grove that central pa needs a new hero.  a few years ago we had dewease, montieth, logan wagner, ryan smith, and greg hodnett who i think everyone would agree were great guys that were also competitive.  macri can be a brat but he at least backs it up.  dewease and wagner are still around but not running near the level they were just a couple years ago.

we're basically left with guys who are trying to prove themselves with rahmer and dietrich.  i've seen rahmer put the snow plow on enough times to know that's who he is.  he plays victim and then sends somebody upside down.  dietrich often does a disappearing act for weeks if not months at a time despite all his talk.  he did nothing after somehow he cleaned up at the weikert back in may.

tj stutts winning against the outlaws was a great night.  it would be great if guys like stutts and chad trout could be up front more often.  



Very true.   Back in 2022 the racing in PA was incredible.       There were great battles almost every feature.     Dewease, Dietrich, Peck, Marks, Macri, and Logan Wagner were all evenly matched.     Most races ended with a close battle where you didn’t know who would win until the checkered flag waved.     Tight, clean racing, slide job ping pong, and last lap passes were the norm.   I think that level of competition made of them all better, quicker, more skillful drivers too.       By the time October got here, the visiting teams didn’t have much of a chance.    The next season, (POOF ! ) it was gone and the 2023 PA season seemed like a soap opera.

I had high hopes for the 8R.      I thought maybe we had a new Dream Team here in PA.      Fred Rahmer, Rich Eichelberger, Don Ott, and Freddie Rahmer,     Freddie had already beaten the Outlaws years ago and the other guys all have pretty impressive resumes.       Maybe it was a case of too many cooks in the kitchen.   I recall seeing Freddie bring the car back to the pits early on.      Fred, Rich, and Don were all lined up waiting to give feedback (tell him what he did wrong).    I felt bad for Freddie because it looked like he would be under a lot of pressure.

Maybe Chase Dietz will continue to do well.      And Troy Wagaman.    Troy has impressed me a lot.      He is a blue collar guy who respects other drivers and equipment.    Troy gets my vote for our new “hero”.  Justin Whittall is getting an opportunity too so maybe he can continue his upward trajectory.        




Parnelli1970
October 22, 2024 at 11:41:54 AM
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Posted By: onporch on October 22 2024 at 09:27:10 AM

Very true.   Back in 2022 the racing in PA was incredible.       There were great battles almost every feature.     Dewease, Dietrich, Peck, Marks, Macri, and Logan Wagner were all evenly matched.     Most races ended with a close battle where you didn’t know who would win until the checkered flag waved.     Tight, clean racing, slide job ping pong, and last lap passes were the norm.   I think that level of competition made of them all better, quicker, more skillful drivers too.       By the time October got here, the visiting teams didn’t have much of a chance.    The next season, (POOF ! ) it was gone and the 2023 PA season seemed like a soap opera.

I had high hopes for the 8R.      I thought maybe we had a new Dream Team here in PA.      Fred Rahmer, Rich Eichelberger, Don Ott, and Freddie Rahmer,     Freddie had already beaten the Outlaws years ago and the other guys all have pretty impressive resumes.       Maybe it was a case of too many cooks in the kitchen.   I recall seeing Freddie bring the car back to the pits early on.      Fred, Rich, and Don were all lined up waiting to give feedback (tell him what he did wrong).    I felt bad for Freddie because it looked like he would be under a lot of pressure.

Maybe Chase Dietz will continue to do well.      And Troy Wagaman.    Troy has impressed me a lot.      He is a blue collar guy who respects other drivers and equipment.    Troy gets my vote for our new “hero”.  Justin Whittall is getting an opportunity too so maybe he can continue his upward trajectory.        



Dietz and Wagaman are the two drivers that I think take the next step next year. Devon Borden had a tough year and seemed to take a big step back. One team to watch although a Saturday Lincoln only was Matt Campbell in the Beard X car. He was consistently fast the second half of the year and in the last race stayed right with Marks and Macri the second half of the fifty lapper.



JT22
October 22, 2024 at 01:08:44 PM
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Posted By: SpcJay on October 21 2024 at 07:17:59 AM

Brenham Crouch will be the new driver of the 5 car. It was previously annouced that Tye Wolfgang would be going to CJB as crewchief as well, but he's staying with KKR now in a bigger role with the 49 car while the 49 crewchief moves over to the 9 car.



If Brenham is the guy at CJB that would be the single dumbest move of the 2024 off-season. CJB would have been better off trying to get Sye Lynch has experience on the road travel and wants to be a full time traveler. He has shown speed at big events but just can't seem to put a full night together. What has Brenham shown? 



tenter
October 22, 2024 at 01:19:54 PM
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Posted By: JT22 on October 22 2024 at 01:08:44 PM

If Brenham is the guy at CJB that would be the single dumbest move of the 2024 off-season. CJB would have been better off trying to get Sye Lynch has experience on the road travel and wants to be a full time traveler. He has shown speed at big events but just can't seem to put a full night together. What has Brenham shown? 



Money?




WingedSpeed
October 22, 2024 at 02:38:25 PM
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Posted By: tenter on October 22 2024 at 01:19:54 PM

Money?



Bingo!



WingedSpeed
October 22, 2024 at 02:43:19 PM
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Posted By: onporch on October 22 2024 at 09:27:10 AM

Very true.   Back in 2022 the racing in PA was incredible.       There were great battles almost every feature.     Dewease, Dietrich, Peck, Marks, Macri, and Logan Wagner were all evenly matched.     Most races ended with a close battle where you didn’t know who would win until the checkered flag waved.     Tight, clean racing, slide job ping pong, and last lap passes were the norm.   I think that level of competition made of them all better, quicker, more skillful drivers too.       By the time October got here, the visiting teams didn’t have much of a chance.    The next season, (POOF ! ) it was gone and the 2023 PA season seemed like a soap opera.

I had high hopes for the 8R.      I thought maybe we had a new Dream Team here in PA.      Fred Rahmer, Rich Eichelberger, Don Ott, and Freddie Rahmer,     Freddie had already beaten the Outlaws years ago and the other guys all have pretty impressive resumes.       Maybe it was a case of too many cooks in the kitchen.   I recall seeing Freddie bring the car back to the pits early on.      Fred, Rich, and Don were all lined up waiting to give feedback (tell him what he did wrong).    I felt bad for Freddie because it looked like he would be under a lot of pressure.

Maybe Chase Dietz will continue to do well.      And Troy Wagaman.    Troy has impressed me a lot.      He is a blue collar guy who respects other drivers and equipment.    Troy gets my vote for our new “hero”.  Justin Whittall is getting an opportunity too so maybe he can continue his upward trajectory.        



I really believe the change in the wicker bill greatly affected this team.  Have watched him most of the year at WG & especially Lincoln and we seems to have the speed going into the turns but no grip / loose coming off the turns.  Hey lets not forget DD can also be a bulldozer at times!!  DD really has done nothing great to speak of since Speedweek.  Many time trial shows and just can't lay down a good lap in qualifing.

 





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