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Topic: Don't see much chatter after HL takes home two wins from guys on the porch Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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NWFAN
September 10, 2024 at 09:57:56 AM
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hmmmmm...


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...


longtimefan
September 10, 2024 at 11:27:26 AM
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Posted By: NWFAN on September 10 2024 at 09:57:56 AM

hmmmmm...



In case you had not noticed for a couple years now Pa results are seldom brought up here no matter who races or wins because it is always turned into a shit show.



Parnelli1970
September 10, 2024 at 12:44:44 PM
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And there it is the whiney crybaby hi jacks another one.




longtimefan
September 10, 2024 at 12:54:53 PM
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Case made.



NWFAN
September 10, 2024 at 05:59:51 PM
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The track was bad, no argument there but a Californian took home the check.  Thus, this post...chatter!


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

Parnelli1970
September 10, 2024 at 06:55:12 PM
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Posted By: NWFAN on September 10 2024 at 05:59:51 PM

The track was bad, no argument there but a Californian took home the check.  Thus, this post...chatter!



No post is safe from the "surface whisperer".




NWFAN
September 10, 2024 at 07:02:49 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on September 10 2024 at 06:55:12 PM

No post is safe from the "surface whisperer".



thats a fact.......


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

SpcJay
September 11, 2024 at 08:01:43 AM
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Maybe because nobody cares. There's no built up rivalry there when it comes to High Limit. It's not a tradition or something that's been going on for decades. It's a new series inheriting events and a fan base that was part of something else for a long time. While there would certainly be a sense of pride in winning a national event, to suggest the rivalry or tension in the crowd is really there...well frankly it's nonexistent. 

I'd say, and maybe this is a little off-topic, but High Limit's biggest struggle is going to be not the act of being relevent or being a big series, but creating an aura that doesn't have them as  "Just another series" for fans. The money in purses is great, the names are great, the new ideas are great....but at the end of the day you're trying to not only create a brand to go up against or alongside one that's been around for ages, but you're trying to get fans incensed or excited about your product and whether the product on the track aligns or not, they simply can't just "get" a feeling that the Outlaws have been building up for decades just because of the things they're bringing to the table up above.



Michael_N
September 11, 2024 at 10:07:38 AM
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Posted By: SpcJay on September 11 2024 at 08:01:43 AM

Maybe because nobody cares. There's no built up rivalry there when it comes to High Limit. It's not a tradition or something that's been going on for decades. It's a new series inheriting events and a fan base that was part of something else for a long time. While there would certainly be a sense of pride in winning a national event, to suggest the rivalry or tension in the crowd is really there...well frankly it's nonexistent. 

I'd say, and maybe this is a little off-topic, but High Limit's biggest struggle is going to be not the act of being relevent or being a big series, but creating an aura that doesn't have them as  "Just another series" for fans. The money in purses is great, the names are great, the new ideas are great....but at the end of the day you're trying to not only create a brand to go up against or alongside one that's been around for ages, but you're trying to get fans incensed or excited about your product and whether the product on the track aligns or not, they simply can't just "get" a feeling that the Outlaws have been building up for decades just because of the things they're bringing to the table up above.



Well said and not off topic at all. Basically, nobody gives a shit that a HL guy beat the PA guys. NOT. ONE. PERSON. 




armyduke
September 11, 2024 at 11:22:34 AM
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Bigger deal to me was the Knoxville guy winning night 1 of a HL race in Posse country and 3 of 9 podiums for the HL guys was telling. 



longtimefan
September 11, 2024 at 11:24:13 AM
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Posted By: SpcJay on September 11 2024 at 08:01:43 AM

Maybe because nobody cares. There's no built up rivalry there when it comes to High Limit. It's not a tradition or something that's been going on for decades. It's a new series inheriting events and a fan base that was part of something else for a long time. While there would certainly be a sense of pride in winning a national event, to suggest the rivalry or tension in the crowd is really there...well frankly it's nonexistent. 

I'd say, and maybe this is a little off-topic, but High Limit's biggest struggle is going to be not the act of being relevent or being a big series, but creating an aura that doesn't have them as  "Just another series" for fans. The money in purses is great, the names are great, the new ideas are great....but at the end of the day you're trying to not only create a brand to go up against or alongside one that's been around for ages, but you're trying to get fans incensed or excited about your product and whether the product on the track aligns or not, they simply can't just "get" a feeling that the Outlaws have been building up for decades just because of the things they're bringing to the table up above.



You obviously don't understand this event. The saction no matter who it is Allstar, High Limit, or Outlaw The Tuscarora Fifty is a Juniata County Fair event. Nobody there cared that is was High Limit there instead of the Allstars. It was the Tuscarora Fifty and the Fair. It actually has had higher car counts with no Saction than this year. Unfortunately this race itself was a dud this year. I know they were concerned with the weather forecast when prepping the track but it was obvious by mid morning that the rain was not coming and could have changed courses.



Latemodel1
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September 11, 2024 at 01:55:51 PM
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Posted By: SpcJay on September 11 2024 at 08:01:43 AM

Maybe because nobody cares. There's no built up rivalry there when it comes to High Limit. It's not a tradition or something that's been going on for decades. It's a new series inheriting events and a fan base that was part of something else for a long time. While there would certainly be a sense of pride in winning a national event, to suggest the rivalry or tension in the crowd is really there...well frankly it's nonexistent. 

I'd say, and maybe this is a little off-topic, but High Limit's biggest struggle is going to be not the act of being relevent or being a big series, but creating an aura that doesn't have them as  "Just another series" for fans. The money in purses is great, the names are great, the new ideas are great....but at the end of the day you're trying to not only create a brand to go up against or alongside one that's been around for ages, but you're trying to get fans incensed or excited about your product and whether the product on the track aligns or not, they simply can't just "get" a feeling that the Outlaws have been building up for decades just because of the things they're bringing to the table up above.



Yep. I am from the midwest and none of that rivalry "S" means nothing to me. Not even thw Posse vs. Outlaw. I just want to see a lot of great racing with quality drivers. First 2 nights were great. The 3rd night was one of the worst races I have watched all year, if not the worst.




NWFAN
September 11, 2024 at 03:08:40 PM
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Posted By: Latemodel1 on September 11 2024 at 01:55:51 PM

Yep. I am from the midwest and none of that rivalry "S" means nothing to me. Not even thw Posse vs. Outlaw. I just want to see a lot of great racing with quality drivers. First 2 nights were great. The 3rd night was one of the worst races I have watched all year, if not the worst.



now we have the "chatter" going on.  great posts, all of them!


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

fiXXXer
September 11, 2024 at 06:22:35 PM
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Posted By: SpcJay on September 11 2024 at 08:01:43 AM

Maybe because nobody cares. There's no built up rivalry there when it comes to High Limit. It's not a tradition or something that's been going on for decades. It's a new series inheriting events and a fan base that was part of something else for a long time. While there would certainly be a sense of pride in winning a national event, to suggest the rivalry or tension in the crowd is really there...well frankly it's nonexistent. 

I'd say, and maybe this is a little off-topic, but High Limit's biggest struggle is going to be not the act of being relevent or being a big series, but creating an aura that doesn't have them as  "Just another series" for fans. The money in purses is great, the names are great, the new ideas are great....but at the end of the day you're trying to not only create a brand to go up against or alongside one that's been around for ages, but you're trying to get fans incensed or excited about your product and whether the product on the track aligns or not, they simply can't just "get" a feeling that the Outlaws have been building up for decades just because of the things they're bringing to the table up above.



You nailed it. A rivalry can't be scripted by generating fake hype on Twitter and making videos of drivers playing their respective roles. It actually makes the product seem cheesy. Something like that may develop over time but it won't be because the speedway and the series manufactured hype on social media. Fans will never buy into it. No matter how much you tell them to bring the energy or how much you try to convince them that a rivalry exists. They either feel it or they don't.





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