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Topic: HL VS. WOO THIS WEEK AT ELDORA, which series prevails? Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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Murphy
July 20, 2024 at 11:32:18 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 20 2024 at 10:52:40 PM

One of the greatest weaknesses of social media is there is no sarcasm detector. 



OK Got it! Smile



SVMike
July 21, 2024 at 04:33:37 AM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 20 2024 at 09:54:42 PM

I think it shows once and for all that the WoO's 4 freebie rule is killing them. If they could run wherever they wanted, they'd have swept all 5 races instead of 4 of 5. It's a real shame......



For me this week showed a couple things...first Schatz still has a lot left in the tank. Give the man a decent bullet and he is still among, if not THE best.  Second, I have an irrational dislike for David Gravel. He's a helluva driver with tremendous talent. I just don't like the guy...he comes across to me like a heel to use WWE terms. Having said that, he kicked ass this week whether I like him or not which is what makes big time sprint car racing a great thing!  Whether I'm watching to see a driver win, or get beat... I'M WATCHING! I just wish I could be there in person, but that's tough being from CA. It's a great time to be a sprint car fan. Be well all of you out there!



BStrawser26
July 21, 2024 at 07:37:31 AM
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Posted By: armyduke on July 20 2024 at 10:42:02 PM

This week just proves their strategy, if you want to see the best you need to schedule the WoO or buy a WoO ticket



Bull!  


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


armyduke
July 21, 2024 at 11:24:25 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 21 2024 at 07:37:31 AM

Bull!  



That's true you can catch em on dirtvision too. : )   

 

Hope you enjoyed the week as much as we did out there.  I'll come say howdy when you come back in 2026, yes?  



saphead
July 21, 2024 at 11:55:22 AM
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Just complete domination over the junor series by the WoO.

The F.Q.I. (fan quality index) was quite low which is to be expected with this event. Far too many power drinkers, felons, and trustees of modern chemistry, although they were all fairly well behaved from what I could tell. 

The most important ceremony in all of motorsport went off well, with King David the 41st treating it with proper respect. The Crown was properly proportioned this year and adorned beautifully. So TPTB are clearly reading this MB and took my previous comments to heart, which they should.

The scepter was larger this year and very opulent.

The pressure treated lumber of the Throne looks as good as it did in 1984. 

Jason Sides did a fine job as the HIgh Priest, but next time lose the sunglasses and when you place the Crown, two hands are to be used, not one. You're not putting a ballcap on a little leager, you are crowning a Champion & King. 

Other than the whoops section in turn 1 I'd say it was a pretty flawless week. 

 

 



longtimefan
July 21, 2024 at 01:19:07 PM
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Did anyone track how many drivers qualified for all four races. Provisionals don't count. 




BStrawser26
July 21, 2024 at 01:46:33 PM
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Posted By: armyduke on July 21 2024 at 11:24:25 AM

That's true you can catch em on dirtvision too. : )   

 

Hope you enjoyed the week as much as we did out there.  I'll come say howdy when you come back in 2026, yes?  



Why? - you didn't come say howdy this year.  


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BStrawser26
July 21, 2024 at 01:50:37 PM
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Posted By: armyduke on July 21 2024 at 11:24:25 AM

That's true you can catch em on dirtvision too. : )   

 

Hope you enjoyed the week as much as we did out there.  I'll come say howdy when you come back in 2026, yes?  



Racing was awesome!  Lots and lots of slide jobs!


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

lpjazz
July 21, 2024 at 01:54:02 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on July 21 2024 at 01:19:07 PM

Did anyone track how many drivers qualified for all four races. Provisionals don't count. 



How about these numbers:

 

Wins:  WoO - 4.   High Limit - 1

Podiums:  Woo - 9.   High Limit - 6

 

Numbers (facts), not opinion!

 




StanM
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July 21, 2024 at 02:03:36 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 20 2024 at 02:32:14 PM

To line the cars up for the heat races an not this heads up crap either!



When I was taking photos I always looked at TT as an opportunity to get a single car shot of every car.  Today it's a good time to run upstairs and grab a snack.  I'm not into ragging on qualifying, formats and single file heats every little detail.  I don't start paying close attention until the B and A Mains.  Fact is that I'm seeing so many races on the two streaming channels that it's making the whole racing thing a bit watered down.  My happy place was loading up and leaving from work on a Friday afternoon and chasing them all weekend.  Without any travel partners it's more doable to sit and watch from home.  Everything from gas to food to motels is pricing me into being more of a TV fan.  I'm even finding myself burning out on it and skipping streaming races.

Kind of bummed for my neighbor Luke Nellis this morning.  They got the new motor figured out with IRA at Grand Forks last night.  Timed fifth, were running away with their Heat until the motor blew and they DNF'd for the night.  My racing intersts go much further than the two traveling series.  Even includes some fenders now and the so the HL and WoO thing isn't that big of a deal.  Just more TV races I don't have time to watch.


Stan Meissner

armyduke
July 21, 2024 at 02:25:40 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on July 21 2024 at 01:46:33 PM

Why? - you didn't come say howdy this year.  



Sorry bout that,  with my son and gf in from California this year and mother in father in law from New York our group was 22 people and it was a little hectic this year. I'll catch ya next time for sure. 



longtimefan
July 21, 2024 at 03:53:04 PM
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That is not what I asked.




longtimefan
July 21, 2024 at 06:44:44 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on July 21 2024 at 01:19:07 PM

Did anyone track how many drivers qualified for all four races. Provisionals don't count. 



Did some research. My number is 12.

Gravel

Peck

Rico

Marks

Schuchart

Haud

McFadden

Bayston

Macri

Courtney

PPM

Kofoid



sprintfanatic
July 21, 2024 at 10:27:55 PM
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Average finish for the 13 drivers that competed in an A Main each night at Eldora:

Based on results posted in SprintCarRatings.com

Driver Wed Thur Fri Sat Average
Gravel 4 1 2 1 2.0
Schatz 2 2 4 2 2.5
Schuchart 1 7 3 4 3.8
Peck 4 4 12 3 5.8
Courtney 3 15 5 11 8.5
Marks 7 6 14 9 9.0
Abreu 14 5 1 18 9.5
McFadden 6 10 8 14 9.5
Bayston 5 12 10 12 9.8
Macri 5 4 27 13 12.3
Haudenschild 9 8 28 7 13.0
Kofoid 13 23 7 10 13.3
Price-Miller 11 16 6 24 14.3


revjimk
July 22, 2024 at 12:13:28 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 20 2024 at 10:52:40 PM

One of the greatest weaknesses of social media is there is no sarcasm detector. 



Yep, that happens all the time...

I use one of these to indicate sarcasm: wink




NWFAN
July 22, 2024 at 03:36:29 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on July 21 2024 at 01:19:07 PM

Did anyone track how many drivers qualified for all four races. Provisionals don't count. 



Rico...


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

NWFAN
July 22, 2024 at 03:46:23 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on July 21 2024 at 01:19:07 PM

Did anyone track how many drivers qualified for all four races. Provisionals don't count. 



Rico...


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

Kmart712
July 22, 2024 at 06:47:30 PM
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Posted By: NWFAN on July 22 2024 at 03:46:23 PM

Rico...



The last 2 years the King's crown has reduced in size, immensely. I must have missed the reason why. Does anyone know the reason?............The old crown was much better!




egras
July 22, 2024 at 08:08:23 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 20 2024 at 05:33:47 PM

The old Royal format was the dumbest in racing. Qualify 36th, win your heat and start on the pole! Idiotic. The wheel of misfortune which I believe will determine the invert after time trials makes it way better, should eliminate a lot of the sandbagging. 



"The old Royal format was the dumbest in racing."---Hands down, 100%!   The change this year didn't necessarily pay off with great racing in the heats, but at least it wasn't the ridiculous qualify 36th for a pole!

 

Also, for those claiming drivers have to "earn their way into the A at the Royal"----bull$@#%!!!!   There were a bunch of drivers who inverted to a front row heat win and ran away in clean air.  Not exactly "earning" a spot.  As far as I'm concerned, Knoxville Raceway has the qualifying/heats/points/lineup NAILED!!!!  Their weekly show is spot on, and for the Nats, a slight tweak for when the big guns come to town!  It gets no better in my opinion.  

All of that said, give me a choice between the King's Royal format, and the WoO normal format, and I pick the WoO normal format ALL DAY LONG!  No gimmicks!



Nick14
July 22, 2024 at 09:47:13 PM
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Posted By: egras on July 22 2024 at 08:08:23 PM

"The old Royal format was the dumbest in racing."---Hands down, 100%!   The change this year didn't necessarily pay off with great racing in the heats, but at least it wasn't the ridiculous qualify 36th for a pole!

 

Also, for those claiming drivers have to "earn their way into the A at the Royal"----bull$@#%!!!!   There were a bunch of drivers who inverted to a front row heat win and ran away in clean air.  Not exactly "earning" a spot.  As far as I'm concerned, Knoxville Raceway has the qualifying/heats/points/lineup NAILED!!!!  Their weekly show is spot on, and for the Nats, a slight tweak for when the big guns come to town!  It gets no better in my opinion.  

All of that said, give me a choice between the King's Royal format, and the WoO normal format, and I pick the WoO normal format ALL DAY LONG!  No gimmicks!



Agreed.  Not to mention from what I saw in the stands, if you didn't get it in the first corner you weren't going to get it. Really they could shorten the heats to 2 laps and nothing would have changed outside of the caution in the 1st heat and some battles for 4th and 5th. 

Almost all of the heats had situations where it had nothing to do with the faster qualifiers not being "fast nought " or not being able to "earn" their way in. Most of the time when they went into turn 1 they had to either get on the binders or turn to avoid a car cutting across the nose or avoid a bonzi move. By the time they were off of 2 they had no momentum and the front couple cars has the clean air and nothing to break their momentum.  Yeah Schatz gave everyone a show coming from deep in the field but to me it would have been a better race had he started further up with a spot he did earn already. He unfortunately used his stuff up getting there. But hey its not about competition anymore it's about entertainment or the illusion of entertainment 





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