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Parnelli1970
June 22, 2024 at 01:02:15 PM
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Wow what a cry baby. You've got gyour panties wadded so much over a non issue. Instead of just appreciating how much the sport is growing right now you throw a tantrum over nothing. Good don't go to any Woo races in fact don't go at all if something like this gets so upset.



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June 22, 2024 at 01:14:29 PM
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I'm not sure you understand what the word ignorant means. Do you understand what the term poster child means?



Dryslick Willie
June 22, 2024 at 01:16:51 PM
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Just hang loose, I'm sure someone is relaying this ultra important information on your feelings to Gibson even as we speak.  I'm sure he'll be calling to beg for your forgiveness and will immediately start promoting High Limit when he gets back on the mic.   




revjimk
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Posted By: beezr2002 on June 21 2024 at 12:34:16 PM

Well, if you can't take a side and get your panties all wadded up over something that you have no conTroll (sp) over I'm not sure your posts are welcome here. And you call yourself a race fan..........................................................................lol.



Why such a hostile response to a pretty harmless & accurate (IMHO) post?

I don't see why people are getting so worked up. Both series are doing well & I think it adds to the sport. I feel sorry for some areas that don't get any HL races, cause they have some terrific lineups...

Looking forward to Tuscarora 50!!!! Smile

 



revjimk
June 22, 2024 at 01:29:18 PM
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& of course neither series has any obligation to mention the other...

But HL showed some good sportsmanship to do it

Do they gain anything by mentioning WoO? Maybe so, especially if they whup 'em wink



beezr2002
June 22, 2024 at 03:03:42 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on June 22 2024 at 01:26:06 PM

Why such a hostile response to a pretty harmless & accurate (IMHO) post?

I don't see why people are getting so worked up. Both series are doing well & I think it adds to the sport. I feel sorry for some areas that don't get any HL races, cause they have some terrific lineups...

Looking forward to Tuscarora 50!!!! Smile

 



LfreakinOL...Pretty sure my response was not to you but to  someone that understands sarcasm.  I'll try to make that more obvious for you next time. But by all means keep jumping into stuff you don't quite understand, that's how we learn.




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Posted By: BStrawser26 on June 21 2024 at 01:42:22 PM

I had and have tickets for both series this year.  I do however think it is a great injustice to the racing world that th woo can't even mention the HL.



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Murphy
June 22, 2024 at 05:46:14 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on June 22 2024 at 11:03:13 AM

I can't wait until the world racing group calls me next year to try to sell me the same tickets I bought this year for the Woo.  I am going to tell them what I think of how Gibson has totally blew it for me to purchase those tickets this year.  After this year, I am definitely going to cut down on my woo tickets for the next few years.  Not pissing just telling the truth.  They need to start promoting the sport instead of being stupid!



Oh dear. How are they going to be able to afford to continue operating the WoO without your hefty financial support?



HoldenCaulfield
June 22, 2024 at 06:27:23 PM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on June 20 2024 at 11:33:22 AM

Regardless of any competitive measure regarding the series or drivers, the Outlaws clearly have a massive advantage in brand recognition. Simply watching the streams and looking at the crowds will tell you that, regardless of quality of cars, drivers or racing.

Like it or not, the Outlaws are clearly perceived to be the gold standard. 

It makes perfect sense for High Limit to try to attach itself to the Outlaws for any reason possible to grow High Limit's brand within the existing and future fan base.

At the same time, it makes perfect sense for the Outlaws to act as if High Limit doesn't exist. In every business I've everbeen in, it has been status quo to ignore competition -even speaking down on it legitimizes said competition.

Not really hard concepts to understand. I still think more time is needed to understand if HL existing has bettered the sport overall, but I personally feel early indications are that it has. 



I would think it's getting more and moe difficult for the WOO to keep snubbing when HL drivers keep showing up in WOO VL. 


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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on June 22 2024 at 06:27:23 PM

I would think it's getting more and moe difficult for the WOO to keep snubbing when HL drivers keep showing up in WOO VL. 



I would agree with the overall sentiment but snubbing infers that HL as an entity is deserving of recognition, which I'm not sure I can agree with.

HL drivers winning Outlaw races will definitely help fortify the HL brand, but it's not the Outlaws responsibility to make their fanbase aware of that. 



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Posted By: SprintFan16 on June 22 2024 at 11:54:14 PM

I would agree with the overall sentiment but snubbing infers that HL as an entity is deserving of recognition, which I'm not sure I can agree with.

HL drivers winning Outlaw races will definitely help fortify the HL brand, but it's not the Outlaws responsibility to make their fanbase aware of that. 



I don't think they are going to have to worry about the HL fanbase because they are not going to let the outlaws forget it when they win. You are correct, it is not the outlaws responsibility to acknowledge them, but HL sure the hell is not going to let them ignore them either. Nor should they.



revjimk
June 23, 2024 at 02:43:47 PM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on June 22 2024 at 11:54:14 PM

I would agree with the overall sentiment but snubbing infers that HL as an entity is deserving of recognition, which I'm not sure I can agree with.

HL drivers winning Outlaw races will definitely help fortify the HL brand, but it's not the Outlaws responsibility to make their fanbase aware of that. 



I already said its nobody's responsibility to promote the other franchise, but failure to do so might indicate the WoO is running scared. HL comes off as "the bigger person", more self confident

That said, I'm not on either side. HL has done better than I expected, might have the better lineup




revjimk
June 23, 2024 at 02:52:13 PM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on June 22 2024 at 03:03:42 PM

LfreakinOL...Pretty sure my response was not to you but to  someone that understands sarcasm.  I'll try to make that more obvious for you next time. But by all means keep jumping into stuff you don't quite understand, that's how we learn.



I know... your response was to this post by lpjazz. I don't see what bugs you so much about it:

"Using a quote by Ric Flair who was involved in a form of the entertainment industry thought to be a sport and furthermore fixed the outcomes, will not justify anything.  
 

Not sure how things will progress with the Outlaws or High Limit, but these things are currently happening:

- More races

- More higher paying races

- More teams, drivers, and crew being employed

- More sarisfied fans 

You may agree or disagree with the above, but the 1st 3 are pretty accurate.

Some may argue that the quality of fields may be dilluted, but look at it from this standpoint.  When the Outlaws and All-Stars existed, I associated the Outlaws as the major leagues and the All-Stars more of the minor leagues, a stepping stone to the outlaws.  This goes back to the past 30 or so years.  Now you have the Outlaws and High Limit and while you may by right looking at the Outlaws as diluted somewhat, it has produced a higher level in the High Limit Series that is above the former All-Stars.  Given time, we may see both sanctioning bodies elevate their rosters with an equal number and depth of talent on e possessed by just the Outlaws.  Plus we now have seen growth in the Fast Series.  I'm just going to sit back an enjoy.  Not my business to take a side or question a driver or teams decision on which series to follow.  They are the one's that front the finances!  Just enjoy the many opportunities out there!

What was so bad about that? Be specific...



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June 23, 2024 at 04:20:18 PM
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I know... your response was to this post by lpjazz. I don't see what bugs you so much about it:

"Using a quote by Ric Flair who was involved in a form of the entertainment industry thought to be a sport and furthermore fixed the outcomes, will not justify anything.  
 

Not sure how things will progress with the Outlaws or High Limit, but these things are currently happening:

- More races

- More higher paying races

- More teams, drivers, and crew being employed

- More sarisfied fans 

You may agree or disagree with the above, but the 1st 3 are pretty accurate.

Some may argue that the quality of fields may be dilluted, but look at it from this standpoint.  When the Outlaws and All-Stars existed, I associated the Outlaws as the major leagues and the All-Stars more of the minor leagues, a stepping stone to the outlaws.  This goes back to the past 30 or so years.  Now you have the Outlaws and High Limit and while you may by right looking at the Outlaws as diluted somewhat, it has produced a higher level in the High Limit Series that is above the former All-Stars.  Given time, we may see both sanctioning bodies elevate their rosters with an equal number and depth of talent on e possessed by just the Outlaws.  Plus we now have seen growth in the Fast Series.  I'm just going to sit back an enjoy.  Not my business to take a side or question a driver or teams decision on which series to follow.  They are the one's that front the finances!  Just enjoy the many opportunities out there!

What was so bad about that? Be specific...



You are way more F***ed up than I thought but somewhat fun. What makes you think I had issues with lpjazz's post when I replied with non serious sarcasm, I'm pretty sure lpjazz got it. Why do you jump to someones defense that I'm sure don't need you to, maybe jump from an overpass onto a train or something productive. Gee,   Mr. wanabe moderator its a good thing I didn't mention anything political,   especially against your views. Ric Flair quote  "Wooooooooooo"



revjimk
June 23, 2024 at 05:18:35 PM
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You are way more F***ed up than I thought but somewhat fun. What makes you think I had issues with lpjazz's post when I replied with non serious sarcasm, I'm pretty sure lpjazz got it. Why do you jump to someones defense that I'm sure don't need you to, maybe jump from an overpass onto a train or something productive. Gee,   Mr. wanabe moderator its a good thing I didn't mention anything political,   especially against your views. Ric Flair quote  "Wooooooooooo"



Sarcasm doesn't translate well over the Internet, with no facial expression or tone of voice

I grew up in NYC, have a good sarcasm detector

You told me this: "maybe jump from an overpass onto a train or something productive"

Is that sarcasm too? Sounds pretty damn hostile to me




Truth teller
June 23, 2024 at 08:19:55 PM
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I get why the Outlaws won't mention High Limit. It does not do the "You wanted the best..." slogan much good when guys from another series come in and win on their off night.



Murphy
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Posted By: Truth teller on June 23 2024 at 08:19:55 PM

I get why the Outlaws won't mention High Limit. It does not do the "You wanted the best..." slogan much good when guys from another series come in and win on their off night.



I dunno. I think the "You wanted the best..." slogan still applies, even if not all the best in that night's lineup are platinum WoO members. wink



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I was concerned about where all the cars were going to come from but am missing both nearby WoO shows including this week to my wife, queen of vacation bookings.  Now with all the racing on streaming and fifty car fields all running on the same night I wonder how sustainable this all is.  At some point half of those teams are going to realize they're still not making the A Main most nights and seek out other options.  I wonder where all the money is coming from to support all of this racing right down to the fans ability to attend more races during a time many refer to as the economy being all doom and gloom.  Even the IRA had 50+ and put on arguably some of the best racing of the weekend.  This has been a great season to watch televised racing so no complaints that I have that option now. 


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I dunno. I think the "You wanted the best..." slogan still applies, even if not all the best in that night's lineup are platinum WoO members. wink



Some truth there especially when the HL guys are showing up. Currently watching the WoO lm show in Iowa and Garrett Alberson racing there with them. Announcer no issue acknowledging him as "former Lucas Oil rooking of the year." This would not have been the case 15 to 20 years ago. HL will just have to earn their stripes and I believe they will. No one should be offended right now and HL fans should be allowed to boast when they do win against the outlaws just like PA Posse. I am sure they had to earn their stripes as well. The only thing that I believe the outlaws have been petty about is they have pulled Brad Sweet's (I am not a fan of his) likeness (image) from all of his victories. For those that do not know, the outlaws put an image of their winning drivers on the results/racaps page. If their driver doesn't win, it is usually the outlaw logo or the race's logo. I don't know if their is copyright or NIL issue, but his image was pulled from all his wins last year. James Mcfadden and Spencer Bayston's images are still there.



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June 24, 2024 at 09:07:33 PM
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Posted By: Latemodel1 on June 24 2024 at 07:03:49 PM

Some truth there especially when the HL guys are showing up. Currently watching the WoO lm show in Iowa and Garrett Alberson racing there with them. Announcer no issue acknowledging him as "former Lucas Oil rooking of the year." This would not have been the case 15 to 20 years ago. HL will just have to earn their stripes and I believe they will. No one should be offended right now and HL fans should be allowed to boast when they do win against the outlaws just like PA Posse. I am sure they had to earn their stripes as well. The only thing that I believe the outlaws have been petty about is they have pulled Brad Sweet's (I am not a fan of his) likeness (image) from all of his victories. For those that do not know, the outlaws put an image of their winning drivers on the results/racaps page. If their driver doesn't win, it is usually the outlaw logo or the race's logo. I don't know if their is copyright or NIL issue, but his image was pulled from all his wins last year. James Mcfadden and Spencer Bayston's images are still there.



Aren't you "boasting"right now? Nothing is stopping anyone from "boasting". Just seems petty or maybe a need for validation.





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