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June 11, 2024 at
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Posted By: egras on June 08 2024 at 01:34:46 PM
Brad Keselowski is the only current one you know of? You don't know of Kyle Larson? He was repeatedly turned down by all Nascar teams. He was told time and time again if he brought a million dollars, they could put him in a Nationwide Series ride for a year. (documentary on FS1) He couldn't bring much of anything, let alone a million. Chip was the only owner that saw the marketing potential for Larson, and took a gamble by offering him a ride. Larson said he had the financial backing with Target, and was the only owner interested. If Chip had not given him a ride that day, he most likely wouldn't have ever made it to one of the big market series.
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My bad. You're correct. I'll be honest, I didn't necessarily think of him that way, not because he was born with a silver spoon but I'm not sure NASCAR was his dream? Obviously he likes the money (who wouldn't?) but I'm not sure he loves the racing. And yes I know what he says now and has said since he came back but this was a guy who just a month before the Daytona 500 said "Sorry NASCAR but this is the greatest race right here (talking about the Chilli Bowl)" and talked multiple times about how he wanted to win a WOO championship after he retired from NASCAR. It's totally possible that his opinion has changed. But IF he hadn't made it in NASCAR, I don't think his heart would've been too broken as long as he could've driven a dirt car. But you are totally correct.
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June 11, 2024 at
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Posted By: dirtraceorbust on June 04 2024 at 11:39:33 PM
WE hear a lot and read a lot about buying a ride, NASCAR, Indy Car, Sprint Cars, etc. I've never read what kind of money we're talking about here. Big article about 16 year old Landon Crawley getting the ride in Jason Sides'' # 7 in this month's Dirt Empire and full time with WoO. Supposedly buying a ride in Cup and Indy Car and WoO cars is pretty much the norm. But again, I don't have a clue what the "buy" costs, couldn't even guess, wouldn't dare as I'd be so far off. And the dollar amount is never mentioned. Or is this too much "personal" information that is not talked about? For all I know Crawley proved his talent (looks like he did earn the ride after reading that article and how strong he is at 16) and probably was no "buy".
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I don’t think you will find a “List Price”. All of these deals are negotiated individually and have different terms. I’ve heard that most sprint car driver/owner arrangements are handshake deals or text message arrangements with no actual written contracts. Each driver wants the best overall deal they can find. Each owner wants the best overall deal they can find.
Crawley in the Sides car.
Tanner Holmes in the 1A (last season)
Kody Hartlaub in the Trone 39
Pittman in the 69K
Wagner in the 69K
Freddy in the Rahmer 51
Freddy in the Eichelberger 8
Wagaman Jr. in the Heffner 27
Dewease in whatever car he happens to be in.
Gravel in the 2
Bayston in the CJB 5
Larson in the 57
Kerry Madsen in the Vermeer Car
The Steel City Outlaw in the 49X
Sheldon in the 17
I expect each of these deals has unique and different terms. It may depend on who is making the phone call and who is answering the phone. I expect the person answering the phone (either the owner or driver) is the one in a better position to make demands and negotiate terms.
This isn’t just a racing thing either. It is one of the things that makes America great. If you don’t think you are being paid enough you can generally go out and try to negotiate a better deal for yourself.
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June 11, 2024 at
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Posted By: hardon on June 11 2024 at 12:38:36 AM
My bad. You're correct. I'll be honest, I didn't necessarily think of him that way, not because he was born with a silver spoon but I'm not sure NASCAR was his dream? Obviously he likes the money (who wouldn't?) but I'm not sure he loves the racing. And yes I know what he says now and has said since he came back but this was a guy who just a month before the Daytona 500 said "Sorry NASCAR but this is the greatest race right here (talking about the Chilli Bowl)" and talked multiple times about how he wanted to win a WOO championship after he retired from NASCAR. It's totally possible that his opinion has changed. But IF he hadn't made it in NASCAR, I don't think his heart would've been too broken as long as he could've driven a dirt car. But you are totally correct.
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I just hope he has his money in the hands of the right people so he can retire from the "pro" ranks and re-enter the dirt world full time someday. I was always hopeful it would be the WoO and he would win a title, but circumstances have changed. Time will tell.
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June 11, 2024 at
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Posted By: EasyE on June 08 2024 at 02:46:24 PM
Ive had to educate folks several times on here before but ill do it again. TAX RIGHT OFFS ARE A HUGE PART OF THESE BIG TEAMS . Allmost all these owners have something else going on where tax write offs and losses come into play where its not costing these owners NEAR as much as it appears.
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I think everyone realizes what a tax write off is and how these businesses use these write offs to their advantage. You still have to have access to a ton of cash flow to make something like this work, and if it's not "profitable" it will not continue. Profitable meaning it still has to make financial sense even used as a write off. Can't just lose millions and justify it as a write off. Unless you enjoy bankruptcy
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June 13, 2024 at
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Posted By: saphead on June 11 2024 at 06:37:52 AM
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LOL
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