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screw political ideology................

I'm with you there Duane. Helpin people get back on their feet is great - and I think if it was governed more properly welfare could work much more effectively. but for it to do so they may need some help findin a job and stuff like that...........but temp agencies are more concerned with providing work for illegal immigrants because that is what their clients (employers) want. I don't think it really matters if one is conservative or liberal on this issue - legal citizens are paying the way for illegal immigrants. I witnessed first hand for 3 years what these temp agencies do - I worked thru one while my g/f worked for them - actually for them. Ya'll would not believe the shady deals these places pull with employers as well as local and state governments.

And the 2 most effective ways to curtail illegal immigration still are not practiced en masse. 1 - take trained military divisions and guard the border. this could be done in many ways. Even private contractors could perform this - lord knows they'd be better at it than they are overseas (more scrutiny at home). Or more money be sensibly applied to expand and further train border authorities. and no matter which route you go - there should be a buffer zone between US and Mexico. with checkpoints in these zones. and the final part of this is to fix the broken system called INS. When illegals are detained they need to be sent back to Mexico as soon as possible - not stay detained in our already over-crowded jails rent free with free food. for some illegal immigrants jail is a beautiful place. I know this from many I talked to during my stay there as well. they had been there 8 months before I got there and was there 30 days later when I left. I'll say though they were pretty cool fellas.

2. impose harsh - and when I say harsh I mean stick in their deep HARSH! - penalties, fines, and jail time for these greedy white folks who are employing illegal immigrants. In any one day if one is looking you will dozens of these punks. Middle aged (28-38) rednecks who own construction or landscaping crews........they are easy to spot because the hardest part of their job is watching the hard workin immigrants work while runnin up their own cell phone bills. These are the folks who love finding more and more guys willing to work cheaper and cheaper while cutting every corner known to their profession. This can also spread to property owners (apartments, rent houses, and such). More laws could be established for cell phone companies and auto dealerships as well. If cell phone companies can help the government spy on its own people - then it could help out here too. I think much of the reason we are not seeing this issue dealt with is the amount of money some are making off of them being here. Thats where I say Telecommunications and auto dealers - employers and tenant owners.

And because our government seems interested only in wasting our money in wasteful Vietnam-like wars ------ most legislation would have to be passed on a local scale. Which could be positive because people need to become more active in their loacl communities and decisions there anyway. I'm sure I sound racist as hell - but in fact I'm the exact opposite. My best friend is hispanic and I think collectively they are A+ people with so many excellent qualities. Thinkin ethnic - as a whole I like em a lot more than white folks.

But I think there will end up very critical issues that will start with illegal immigration. There already exist many situations that are BS for legal citizens b/c of this very issue. NoDust knows this first hand with some of the legislation up there in Iowa. I also think they need to stop the flow of illegal immigrants immediately - and maybe even nationalize all who are currently here illegally. I know there are drawback to that. But the most important is to stop the flow across the border. If this flow is not stopped - eventually there will be wayyyy too many here and not enough work to go around. think about that for a second. there are many more problems that could pose. It's already a shame that employers have lowered their wages for certain trades the way they have - it would get worse. It would be "I pay this guy 7$ - but here is this guy who is willing to work for 6.50$" and this will continue on until even those working are scraping the bottom of the barrel. And I don't think anything at all good can come out of tens of millions of illegal immigrants here for a more prosperous life - and there being no mass work to keep em employed. Then thats where the iffy stuff comes in. Many things could happen there. I mean think about it - tens of millions of unemployed illegal immigrants. there would be an outcry from them for help - and we already know that legal citizens wouldn't be for it - there would be a high potential for crime to rise dramatically among ill. immigrants........ok this gettin frustratingly long. Needless to say - it would create many extremely negative situations for illegal and legal people in this country - especially in highly populated areas. and with many of the potential problems there could be a lot of tension. and when there is a lot of tension - as we all know - sometimes it only takes 1 or 2 catalyst type events to blow the lid off and things get really ugly. My problem with this scenario - and whereas it is worse case - the likelihood of this happening is greater than most care to recognize - but my problem is that these illegal immigrants - most of em - are just looking for a better life. The VAST majority really are. This isn;t really their fault. and even as we speak we direct a lot of negative racial feelings in their direction. IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT. You can;t blame these folks for walkin through an open door. and it has been our federal government who has left this door open. people need to remember that when thinkin of this. illegal immigrants are not to blame for their presence here - our federal government is. they act completely impotent to stop it. and that isn;t the case. they are just much more concerned with the assualt on the reason of the american public. It seems as if there is much more effort made - with everything - in making people think our government is doing a good job by us - than actually doing a good job by us. It's pretty bad when states have been footing the bill for so long that they are suing the federal government for the money they should have spent on border security - that the state ended up spending.

why is this not a major issue among the powers to be? Common sense has to tell one with reason that if this many illegal immigrants can enter our country - couldn;t "terrorists" as well? Thats so obvious it borders on pathetic. And when one considers what has been done in the name of national security all over the world - the fact that hardly nothing has been done about our very own border security should suggest the entire "war on terror" is complete BS! The only move even attempted by our federal government do far was to try to pass over our port security to the united ARAB emirates! what is more of threat to our security??????? leaving Iraq or leaving our borders WIDE OPEN?????? policy wise - there isn't much being done to make america safer - in reality its private contractors who have reaped the rewards of a war fought on the backs of taxpayers. I can;t help but think that to start utterly useless wars in the name of national security - and to remain to leave your own borders scarcely guarded - thus leaving US citizens just as vulnerable to attack as they were the day before the worst terrorist attack in US history - these FACTS - are a complete and humiliating insult to those murdered in the 9/11 attacks and for ANY soldier who has fought and died trying to PROTECT this country.

Support the troops? then don't be a dumbass............if the troops are fighting to make a america safer - than hold your government and your president to do the exact same standard.

sorry I hate to make this political......but we should all expect more from our government. I guess as long as it has been since I've made such a statement - such a one was long overdue. but I think I have a few points. It is an insult for that border to remain pathetically easy to cross thus national security threatened - and in the name of that same national security so many good soldiers are walkin around mesopatamia like sittin ducks. all of us arm chair patriots should exercise the rights our troops are fighting for - it's not just freedom. but using it responsibly and making good decisions both domestically and abroad using both common sense and reason. I wonder if I should post this - but the hell with it - it's what I thought after reading the beg. of this post. at least I still have enough time to thumb through the chili Bowl entry list. lol.

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boy the last part of your post there is RIGHT ON! thats damn near common place nation wide. it's no wonder generation keep gettin more and more messed up. While mommy is doped up and with a mouthful of a new one - the kid is off playing videogames she bought him that he shouldn;t even know about till way way later.

the # of dead beat moms has probably already passed the # of dead beat dads in this country. well maybe now - but well on its way. funny - i've witnesses this same situation many times - most of the time all the dude did worng was pick the wrong easiest sleaziest drunk chic at the local bar or houe party.......and after all goes down and court rulings made - the slut is back at the same party and the kid is at the grandparents for the weekend. and guys at the party are still stupid enough to mess with these chics. support groups could probably be started for the atrocious acts of predatory ho's such as this. lol.

damn I'm on a roll this morning. I predict a weeklong chili pepper on this one...........lol

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got that prostate thing taken care of did ya?

"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita 
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just 
fine."

Jason Giambi

hey..............I resemble that remark.

"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita 
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just 
fine."

Jason Giambi

Things have changed a lot in my lifetime. When I was in my 20's just about everyone would take an occasional puff and it was no big deal. One of our favorite Sprint Car drivers was a long haired, sandal wearing, weed smoking hippie. Today they'd lock up Opp with all his fans and throw away the key. When the outlaw hippie finally got out of jail he'd have to join an ongoing treatment program and give lectures at elementary schools about the dangers of weed then petition the sanctioning body to reinstate him.

I'm not advocating smoking the geef but sometimes I think about how drastically public opinion can change within the span of a couple generations. Once we solve the drug problem I think we ought to have everyone tested for alcohol use daily. Setup a breath test at work and you have to blow a clean .00 to open the door. LOL, there'd be a lot of racing fans calling in sick if they did that but maybe they'd weed out some of the loudmouths in the stands.

It's full blown winter outside and there's no racing going on. Can't you tell by the message board posts?

Stan Meissner

OKC..........after that series of long winded, ramblings on everything from the Chili Bowl to our troops to dead beat mommies to your X-Box............

I think you need to piss in a bottle! No way that was Sweet 'n Low you were dumpin' in your morning brew!!!

"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita 
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just 
fine."

Jason Giambi

Two lawyers were out hunting when they came upon a pair of tracks. They stopped and examined the tracks closely.

The first lawyer announced, "Those are deer tracks. It's deer season, so we should follow the tracks and find our prey."

The second lawyer responded,"Those are clearly elk tracks, and elk are out of season. If we follow your advice, we'll waste the day."

Each attorney believed himself to be the superior woodsman, and they both bitterly stuck to their guns.

They were still arguing when the train hit them.

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What's wrong with Lawyer jokes?
Lawyers don't think they're funny, and nobody else thinks they're jokes.

An engineer dies and reports to hell. Pretty soon, the engineer gets dissatisfied with the level of comfort in hell, and starts designing and building improvements. After a while, they've got air conditioning and flush toilets and escalators, and the engineer is a pretty popular guy.

One day God calls Satan up on the telephone and says with a sneer, "So, how's it going down there in hell?"

Satan replies, "Hey things are going great. We've got air conditioning and flush toilets and escalators, and there's no telling what this engineer is going to come up with next."

God replies, "What??? You've got an engineer? That's a mistake -- he should never have gotten down there; send him up here."

Satan says, "No way. I like having an engineer on the staff, and I'm keeping him."

God says, "Send him back up here or I'll sue."

Satan laughs uproariously and answers, "Yeah, right. And just where are you going to get a lawyer?"

"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita 
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just 
fine."

Jason Giambi

How are an apple and a lawyer alike?
They both look good hanging from a tree.

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Duane Davis

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Marshalltown, Iowa 

A lawyer arriving at the gates of heaven found himself confronted by St. Peter, who began to enumerate his many sins.

"Wait," objected the deceased pettifogger, "I haven't been all bad. I gave money to charity, too, you know."

St. Peter consulted his book. "Ah, yes. Once you gave a dime to a panhandler, and another time you tipped the shoeshine boy a nickle. Is that correct?"

"That's right," the lawyer replied smugly.

St. Peter turned to the angel next to him. "Fair enough. Give this guy fifteen cents and tell him to go to hell."

"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita 
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just 
fine."

Jason Giambi

What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a demon from hell?
Another lawyer.

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Marshalltown, Iowa 

What do you throw to a drowning lawyer?
His partners.

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Duane Davis

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101 N Center
Marshalltown, Iowa 

Q: Why does the law society prohibit sex between lawyers and their clients?

A: To prevent clients from being billed twice for what is essentially the same service.

"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita 
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just 
fine."

Jason Giambi

"Oh, please excuse me!" said the bunny. "I didn't mean to trip over you, but I'm blind and couldn't see you there."

"That's perfectly all right," replied the snake. "It was MY fault. I didn't mean to trip you, but I'm blind too, and I didn't see you coming. By the way, what kind of animal are you?"

"Well, I really don't know," said the bunny. "Since I'm blind, I've never seen myself. Perhaps you could examine me and then we'll both know?"

So the snake felt the bunny all over and said, "Well, you're soft and cuddly; you have long silky ears, a fluffy little tail and a twitchy little nose ... you must be a BUNNY RABBIT!" [The little blind bunny was so pleased at this that he danced with joy.] The bunny said, "I can't thank you enough. What kind of animal are you, sir?"

The snake said he didn't know, for the same reason. The bunny agreed to examine him, and when he finished the snake asked, "So, what kind of animal am I?"

The bunny said, "You're hard, you're cold, you're slimy, and you haven't got any balls. You must be a lawyer."

"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita 
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just 
fine."

Jason Giambi

 Why are laboratory scientists switching from rats to lawyers for their experiments?
1. lawyers are more plentiful than rats
2. the lab technicians don't get as attached to the lawyers
3. there are some things a rat just won't do
4. neither the animal rights activists nor the human rights activists get all upset about it

"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita 
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just 
fine."

Jason Giambi

I like the way this thread has turned out.

Ya think I.C. Farr is related to I.P. Freely???

"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita 
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just 
fine."

Jason Giambi

LOL.

naw man I been clean a few years...............in fact I agree with everyone else's assertion about drug testing - but most now aren't very effective - the hair follicle tests are the way to go.

actually bud that really was just me on a roll this morning...............actually haven't talked much politics lately - been too busy. But when you wait for a truck to bring paper for your printers for almost 2 hours - there just wasn't a whole lot to do. By friday's we have most everything done. sucks.

I'm gonna have to look back through at all that. man that ended up way too long. sorry ya'll is it was to much to read. hope everyone still had a good day. lol.

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

...So many dead beat fathers ignore their kids, don't pay the child support, then spend their $400 a month on drugs and stuff for them self. While the kids sit with no food or clothes...goes both ways.

LOL

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