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Once again another terrible look for Sprint car racing. Hate to be a negative Nancy on this beautiful weekend but Port Royal was exposed a little bit last night. I keep using the term lipstick on a pig for these safety "improvements" at Williams Grove and Port. Water barrels and mismatched sheets of tin are a crock of shit. They're more of a detriment than an improvement. Hey Williams Grove...put a fuckin gate up. Don't wait till someone dies. Hey Port Royal...put a fucking real wall up. Don't wait till a driver in an open cockpit gets sawed in half. 

I kinda contradict myself by saying that I want the bridge to stay. But I'm shocked that no one has died hitting that backstretch opening. Water barrels and rachet straps aren't going to do a thing if a car is going fast enough and and at the right angle. If BAPS can install a gate, then Williams Grove should be able to. 

I'll also add the ridiculously slow response of the safety crew during the fire on the 5 car. And also the 2ft high front stretch jersey barriers. If that car doesn't twist right after it climbs the wall, people are getting hit. 

Why don't you clowns tune into a heavy LPGA match so you don't get all emotional about some shit that hasn't even happened. . You got no skin in the game let the men do manly things and show you what its like to have guts. 

I've made several posts on here about the jersey barriers since they put them in. It was a dumb idea. If a car hits them right, it turns into a ramp and that car is gonna launch. We saw it tonight. That was a close call. Luckily it happened where it did and he hit the stone wall in victory lane instead of driving into the infield and mowing people over. Hopefully that was enough for Port to see that those god awful things need to go. It's one thing for drivers to assume whatever risk is present around the racing surface but spectator safety is a whole different deal. If they don't take those damn things out and install some good old fashioned guardrail, we're gonna see something bad happen. Thank god it wasn't tonight. Just a few feet further down the frontstretch and that accident would've likely had a tragic outcome. 

Da fuck are you babbling about?

You guys obviously don't understand how things work in racing.   Why don't they change this or that at a track before it kills somebody?   Because that's exactly how it happens.    You have to seriously injure or kill someone before it gets their attention.   They'll also take fire safety much more serious after someone gets burned.    I don't like it either, but it's one fact of life that never changes and never will.   

What's one thing that won't change anything for sure?   Whining about it on a public forum...

They ain't Knoxville for sure.   Don't know what they were spraying on that fire, but it wasn't going out either.   Shouldn't be other driver having to run to his aid and help put him out.   Pretty pathetic, but I imagine they'll talk about improving it now won't they?  

It took me a few years but I finally came to grips with the fact that it will be up to the drivers and teams to make their cars as safe as possible. Thinking the tracks will take this responsibility won't get you very far. I think some of them honestly try including Port Royal but we'll never see the type of safety measures that are really required.

The barriers will always be this type of tough guy attitude and the almighty dollar since safety improvements cost money.

It was good to hear port Royal thanking their safety team last night. 

Does this mean you guys are going to quit bitching about the WoO requiring onboard fire extinguishers next year?

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Hats off to ports safety crew, DD and Wagner for there realization that wing was down on the cage last night. Methanol and a hole in a fuel cell or the fuel line kept them from getting the flames under control sooner. 

Amen....those guys did one helleve job getting that fire out.....I've been fighting fire for 54 years and flammable liquids are the toughest fires to put out....and with the slope of the track the fluids are moving and more coming out of the tank....they did a great job.

I'm not sure if you're being facetious or not about the response time.  It seemd kind of long to me as well.  So I timed it during the replay and had 7-8 seconds from the time the 5 car stopped moving to the extinguisher was spraying on it.  I'm sure the visual effects of the wing down and the fire made it seem much longer than it really was.  But I'd like to think 8 seconds would be considered an acceptable response time.

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For those hammering response time watch how many cars fly by. After the 3 comes to a stop the fire crew was there on it. Looking at the flame color it must have been a mix of methanol and rear end oil. Both are difficult to deal with.

The track safety crew did I very good job. Yes , it seemed long , but actually it was pretty fast . A full load of fuel pouring dwon the banking is very tough to get under control . But they did it the proper way.

Who the heck is spike fast racing ? Posting horsecrap, the headline reads, Cisney nearly burned to death. What a moron.  

I just watched a video of carley holmes flipping into a creek off of turn 1 at some track. Good grief you would think things like that would be obvious for a track to fix. 

Don't really know why you call it whining.  I'm trying to generate attention for it before someone else dies. Here's some real life knowledge for ya since you dont like forum whining...I stood at the turn 1 opening at Baps for 10 years every Saturday. Can't tell you how many conversations guys have had about that stupid opening and how dangerous it was. How one part failure on a RF and someone could be dead instantly.  How it could happen at Hagerstown and Williams Grove with their stupid fucking backstretch openings. Been brought up at drivers meetings. Remember having a conversation up at the flea market one year with the track owner about a gate. Again more whining. Then Hodnett gets killed a few years later. It's not about whining or thinking the worst is always going to happen, it's about looking at a situation and saying this is easily doable and could save lives. It boggles my mind why these dumb fuck track owners can't fork out 5k max to install a single gate. It's doesn't need to be anything special. It's about as simple as it gets. 

It boggles my mind too.   I'd ask though, when did BAPS fix the turn one issue?   Doesn't matter who said what or when, it always works the same way.   Hodnett himself could have talked to the track management about the issue and it still wouldn't have been fixed.   The only thing that would get their attention is if racers refused to race there, which is another thing that will never happen.   

I thought so too....