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A Main: Kruser, Spencer, Damion, Johnson, Windom. Cory led 1-18 from the pole, passed by Spencer, who continued to lead after the red at 23, and looked like he had it all the way to the wire. The scoreboard showed Spencer in first for about 30 seconds before it reversed the 1-2.

Rip won his heat but fell out of the Main. Tony came through the B to as high as fifth beore falling back a bit. Levi Jones (in one of the -squadron- of Crossno #38s) also figured for a while, as did Josh Ford.

This was a joint show with the PasCar late models (which put on a pretty impressive show) and appeared to leave the track in pretty good shape for the sprinters. The sprints ran high, low and in the the middle the whole 40 laps.

Spencer was robbed , I was sitting abot 25 feet before flagstand, and Spencer had him by a wheel,I cant believe Spencer didnt win . I know they score electronically, they better check where Corys transponder is mounted !

Many people are saying Spencer was ahead at the line. Is there an official photo or is it strickley transponders?

Maybe Cory has developed a telescoping transponder which extends, at the touch of a button, out to a distance just enough to nip Spencer at the wire, and automatically retracts before the USAC folks can see it. Maybe Cory's life-long wish is to defeat Freddie Spencer at Perris in a big time race.

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Hey wallscraper, I saw it on myth busters and it can be done with 1/25th scale models. In fact it worked so well that a 5th place car could actually be scored 1st. Are they sure Cory wasn't running 5th?

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There's a common misperception that the imaginary line where the starter's stand is located (the "start/finish" line) is the same as the scoring line.  The scoring line dictates the running order.  At a number of racetracks, the scoring line is located an astonishing distance from the "start/finish" line.  I've been to some tracks where the scoring line is so far away that the leader could cross the scoring line and spin to a stop before the "start/finish" line and still be classified the winner.  Why does the condition exist where the scoring line differs from the "start/finish" line you ask?  At tracks where no electronic scoring is used, the scorer's booth may not have a unobstructed view of the "start/finish" line so they move the scoring line to a point where they can see and it may end up in front of or after the "start/finish" line.  Where electronic scoring is used, their may be physical constraints that preclude the equipment from being on the "start/finish" line so they move it away.

Perhaps tracks would do justice to the fans by painting a line on the wall to indicate the location of the scoring line.

Iam not a Spencer fan or a fan of Corys, maybe they should tell us where the finish line is , Spencer crossed the starters stand 1st . I cant wait to see some video to show what i saw is wrong.

The actual scoring line is at least 6 ft passed the starters stand,when the cars are qualifing if you watch closely the cars are already past the starters stand before the clock stops.

Anyone who looks at the video can clearly see that C. Kruseman did not win ! I don't care where the USAC scoring line is. All the years I have been going to races, the start/finish line, is at the starters stand. Just another USAC screw-up!

Yeah I agree. In any form of racing I have ever seen, the start/finish line is the point of scoring and the video shows Spencer ahead. It was a valiant effort by Kruser...however I have to say that Spencer got screwed. Congrats to Tony Jones and the Alexander team and condolences to Scott and his family.

Blame USAC, now that's hilarious.The timing and scoring line is the same as it was when SCRA was running things,it's been at the same place probably since the PAS opened. If you want to blame someone then blame the PAS for putting the line somewhere other than right at the starters stand.

Yes I agree, besides Mike run a better race, he had to PASS at least 6 cars to get up front.Once again Kruser on the pole, I don't remember Kruser ever starting 8 in alone time if ever.Also check raceway video for a good look. PS are all transporter located the same distance from front of car?

The "start line" is nowhere near the flagstand so why should it make sense to assume the "finish line" is the flagstand

Incredible isn't it that the last two sprint car main events were decided very late in the race. I think that is a good reason to be a fan.

From my angle Hagen won.

Where is the Finish line at Perris? Where are the scoring loops in the track?

The transponders are mounted on the back of the cars right in front of the fuel tank...even though the transponder line is a little bit past the start finsh i think about 6 feet....its not going to pick up the transponder till the car is almost past the line...

I think by that time Kruserman was indeed in front...as far as the start finsh goes...to close for me to call....Transponder line is not usacs deal...but its over now...time to move on..

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With helmets hiding their identities none of us can say for sure who was driving which car. They could have switched race cars ahead of the start just to provoke this kind of chaos on the message

Or "he"(you know who) might have started all this.

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Is this something that is discussed at the driver's meetings? This is a debate that will never be won by either side. What is done is done and congrats to Cory and Spencer for a great show. Windom was really impressive early though. I was impressed.

Maybe next year USAC can put the start/finish line on the backstretch or in the middle of turn one and two, or three and four and really confuse the hell out of things.