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March 20, 2020 at
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Well aware of the way a theory is defined in science however in this case, it is only a guess (with no better scientific guess so they give it their stamp of approval) with no proof. They have not proven it at all. No parts of it. It is simply their best explanation. An opinion.
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JZ77 must have ignored the part about God helping he who helps himself. Willfully disregarding precautions because you think God will save you is not a sound practice even for a believer. Makes about as much sense as driving without a seatbelt because "God will save me". Actually much worse because your actions endanger others. I guess it comes in handy to avoid all accountability, since everything is " God's will"
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March 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: steelcityguy on March 20 2020 at 08:57:56 AM
They didn't have a choice. It wasn't like they rethought their decision and decided it was a bad idea. The Governor's order yesterday made it mandatory, period.
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I'm sure that's what happened. I was just pointing out to the others that while they were arguing with one another, something that actually was relevant to the thread they were posting in occurred since they seemed to have forgotten to pay attention.
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Posted By: IADIRT on March 20 2020 at 07:43:39 AM
If the by chance isn't hard enough to over come it's the question of where did matter originate is. Even science says matter can not be created nor destroyed. So where did all this matter come from to create this big Bang or band or whatever theory. 3.9 GPA from a quack university probably because I also do not proof read my posts since we're all keeping track now.
This is a pretty sad thread for even hoseheads standards. Hope we can get back racing soon and we all find the truths we're looking for. Might have to move to PA if they keep racing and no one else does.
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Sorry man, the devil made me do it. I'm considering going on a heavy political forum and starting a hot wing/non-wing confrontation.
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March 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: shernernum on March 20 2020 at 09:47:32 AM
I'm sure that's what happened. I was just pointing out to the others that while they were arguing with one another, something that actually was relevant to the thread they were posting in occurred since they seemed to have forgotten to pay attention.
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LOL, very true sir, very true.
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March 20, 2020 at
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When it comes down to it. For believers the worst case is if they are wrong they will the same when they die as everyone else. If nonbelievers are wrong welllll.you know what they say about that.
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March 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: 91RI on March 20 2020 at 09:34:01 AM
JZ77 must have ignored the part about God helping he who helps himself. Willfully disregarding precautions because you think God will save you is not a sound practice even for a believer. Makes about as much sense as driving without a seatbelt because "God will save me". Actually much worse because your actions endanger others. I guess it comes in handy to avoid all accountability, since everything is " God's will"
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I know God will save me, just not from the virus. I never claimed that he would. I am not disregarding precaustions. I am just not afraid of getting the virus or of dying or of much of anything. Because of my faith I won't fall into the fear trap that many on here and in governing bodies are trying to instill. Its not going to happen regardless of how bad it gets (and it is going to get worse). When people are fearful (and yes it is a sin), they are weak (just where they want us) and easily manipulated. My actions don't endanger others. Others actions endanger themselves. My actions only potentially endanger myself and my family as long as they follow my lead. You are not being forced into a public setting where you may be in danger. Stay home and away from everybody. That simple. It is just not right to tell me that I need to. At what point is the damage that is being done to 100% (or close to it) of America's population by the decisions of a few worse than the damage that this virus can do (to a fraction of 1% of the population)? And, yes faith does help me sleep at night and it also gets me through everyday.
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Posted By: jz77 on March 20 2020 at 09:18:10 AM
Well aware of the way a theory is defined in science however in this case, it is only a guess (with no better scientific guess so they give it their stamp of approval) with no proof. They have not proven it at all. No parts of it. It is simply their best explanation. An opinion.
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Once again you're wrong, and you are not a 4.0 student in science. It has to be proven with evidence and results in order to be stated as a theory otherwise just a hypothesis. Plus multiple others have to experiment proving it wrong and when it can't be proven wrong it is then published as a scientific theory. The best thing about science is that it is true whether or not people choose to believe, all of this conflicts with your little beliefs that you think are fact because it helps you answer unanswerable questions.
Now getting away from Robert Tilton here and back on topic, looks like Dave Moody & Lance Dewease had a nice little Twitter battle,
https://twitter.com/DGodfatherMoody/status/1240349514936070144
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March 20, 2020 at
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Read up on the big bang theory. It is certainly not proven. As all scientific theories, it is an explanation. And this one is unproven. It even says this right in all textbooks (check yours). It is an idea. They just think it is better than the previous explanation. Can not be proven any more than creation can. You must have faith in what some scientist "thinks" might have happened. Same as Christians have faith in the recorded history book known as the bible.
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Posted By: Johnny Utah on March 19 2020 at 07:01:15 PM
Existential philosophy being discussed on Hoseheads? Of all the havoc that COVID-19 has wreaked upon society so far, this, this I tell ya, has gotta be the most insidious. Hahahaha.
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Good one!
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Posted By: jz77 on March 20 2020 at 01:12:50 PM
Read up on the big bang theory. It is certainly not proven. As all scientific theories, it is an explanation. And this one is unproven. It even says this right in all textbooks (check yours). It is an idea. They just think it is better than the previous explanation. Can not be proven any more than creation can. You must have faith in what some scientist "thinks" might have happened. Same as Christians have faith in the recorded history book known as the bible.
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There's more evidence for Big Bang Theory than Garden of Eden myth
I'm sure people were praying like crazy during Bubonic Plague of the 1400s. Didn't stop anything....glad we have modern science & medicine
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Posted By: jz77 on March 20 2020 at 01:12:50 PM
Read up on the big bang theory. It is certainly not proven. As all scientific theories, it is an explanation. And this one is unproven. It even says this right in all textbooks (check yours). It is an idea. They just think it is better than the previous explanation. Can not be proven any more than creation can. You must have faith in what some scientist "thinks" might have happened. Same as Christians have faith in the recorded history book known as the bible.
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The difference between science & faith is that science can & should be tested & revised
Religion, either you believe it or you don't, no way of checking. Plus, they all claim absolute truth, so therefore either only one is right or they're all wrong. Especially the Big 3 monotheistic religions, Christianity, Judaism & Islam. They all worship the same deity ("Allah" is just Arabic for Jehovah) , but have been butchering each other for centuries. Do you think thats what God would want????
If you really think about it, all these creation myths are pretty childish: Some guy in the sky just made it all happen? Just like kids thinking the TV set is filled with puppets....an explanation for ancient times before the discovery of microbes, correct understanding of planetary motion, etc. Gallileo was punished by the Church for saying that the Earth circled the Sun instead of visa versa
You think they figured out how to make these computers by praying?
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Posted By: jz77 on March 20 2020 at 01:12:50 PM
Read up on the big bang theory. It is certainly not proven. As all scientific theories, it is an explanation. And this one is unproven. It even says this right in all textbooks (check yours). It is an idea. They just think it is better than the previous explanation. Can not be proven any more than creation can. You must have faith in what some scientist "thinks" might have happened. Same as Christians have faith in the recorded history book known as the bible.
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I thought you were a 4.0student at North Dakota that had taken several science classes and mastered them all. You shouldn't have had to read up on it as it is a fundamental theory, and if you just read up on it in the past couple hours, you probably did not read the right source, some christain site is not a valuable resource. Once again, just because it conflicts with your beliefs does not make it true. People believe the planet is flat, doesnt change the fact it's round. And its not a scientist, its multiple. And if your counter evidence against is the Bible, then you are really a quack as nothing is proven in it. You can continue to pray to your invisible man, doesn't mean all of us do.
Now get back to racing Kenneth Copeland
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Posted By: Murphy on March 20 2020 at 09:56:45 AM
Sorry man, the devil made me do it. I'm considering going on a heavy political forum and starting a hot wing/non-wing confrontation.
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If you do, please please let me know. I'd like to participate. I'm more into non wing than ever but still give the edge to wing. I like the speed and quick maneuvers.
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March 20, 2020 at
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I like non wings also but those hot wings can sometimes give me speed and quick manuevers to the toilet
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Posted By: Nick14 on March 19 2020 at 03:45:58 PM
Fact of the matter is that there is no "God", never was and never will be. If you choose to believe that there is an invisible man that is all good all knowing and can fix things as long as you pray to it then more power to you, its a free country, you're allowed to believe what you want to believe but not free from ridicule. In the mean time those of us that do not have the answers will rely & trust on the scientists, medical experts, and the people who will actually find the answers. Because simply getting on your knees folding your hands and saying words does not do anything, it just gives you the illusion that you may have control over something that you have 0 control over.
Also, if anyone is offended by my "personal" no God comment, I am not saying that you should not believe in whatever religion you believe in or have 0 faith. That is your choice and you are free to do so, its just my belief that I have come to grips with. However, if you think that this thing will get solved just by praying then I disagree with you. The people that figure out a solution, treatment, cure, test, etc figured it out by their own will and studying science and things that were fact are the reason this gets solved. Not something that was created as a way for people to get over our fear of death or as a tool to control groups of people.
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Great post Nick14. I agree 100%
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Posted By: Nick14 on March 19 2020 at 06:41:02 PM
I'm here because my parents had sex one night (most likely on their 6th anniversry if I do the math) and sperm from my dad got to one of my mom's eggs. They got here because their parents did the same. Prior to that it was all because of the big bang and history has shown time and time again where people like yourself who do not have an understanding of something, try to put your "God" theory into it, science time and time again has said "well no, it is actually because of....." Hence the world not created in 7 days, not even the universe, woman not made from a man's rib, the sun does not revolve around the Earth, etc. Matter of fact the top 5 elements in the universe are the top 5 elements in humans which means that we are not specials even though we like to think we are.
And you don't have any understanding of what is going on unless your in the medical, biology, disease, or chemistry area. Spouting off about belief systems written by imperfect humans who stated they were "holy" and wrote it down in one language only to be translated multiple times, redone into another testiment, retranslated again does not mean you know facts and that does not make you any better than Strawser. Religion is faith, you hope that what you believe is true and you have no proof hence the faith thing. And no I don't want to hear about what you say because with how wacko & cryptic you are talking you remind me of a David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite, or Charles Manson type. I'll listen to someone in the science community before I listen to a blowhard
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You are on fire, and I don't mean "HELL" I am glad as hell that I am not alone in these thoughts. Stay safe
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Posted By: jz77 on March 19 2020 at 09:17:12 PM
There are no facts in the big band theory. No scientific evidence. Read what it is. I did and have tried to believe it but it is so far fetched it makes me laugh. I have had geology classes in college, four years of chemistry and science classes, 4 years of calculus, and all the rest of the civil engineering classes with a 4.0 GPA. Whose the blowhard. I have forgotten more than you will ever know and it still isn't enough to convince me to believe science THEORIES over biblical truths. In fact it's just the opposite. Everytime one of my science books cant explain something, I find scripture that can. Just strengthens faith. By the way: of course the sun doesnt revolve around earth. Christians dont think that. Science cant explain many things like order out of chaos or the ice age just to name a few. Another fact is the new testament is not the old testament redone. Shows your lack of knowledge in all areas. I enjoys science and the fact that laws of nature exist and we can use them for a better understanding but I also know why they exist and why the are perfectly consistent. Certainly not just by some random chance.
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What is wrong with the Big Band theory? I happen to like the Glenn Miller Orchestra, and the Tommy Dorsey Band. Your comment about the theory being so far fetched it is laughable. REALLY??? And you don't think the bullshit you are spewing about a damn 'crutch' to lean on when all else fails is not laughable? You should be a comedian. Keep up with your posts, as it makes some people actually look smart (not you) and gives us all a laugh.
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Posted By: 91RI on March 20 2020 at 09:34:01 AM
JZ77 must have ignored the part about God helping he who helps himself. Willfully disregarding precautions because you think God will save you is not a sound practice even for a believer. Makes about as much sense as driving without a seatbelt because "God will save me". Actually much worse because your actions endanger others. I guess it comes in handy to avoid all accountability, since everything is " God's will"
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Posted By: 91RI on March 20 2020 at 09:34:01 AM
JZ77 must have ignored the part about God helping he who helps himself. Willfully disregarding precautions because you think God will save you is not a sound practice even for a believer. Makes about as much sense as driving without a seatbelt because "God will save me". Actually much worse because your actions endanger others. I guess it comes in handy to avoid all accountability, since everything is " God's will"
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I am no one to push anything on anyone but if they ask a question I will answer it as best I can. If they say something wrong I will correct it. No where does the Bible suggest wreckless disregard for safety. It does in fact tell you not to challenge God, meaning don't walk in front of truck thinking he will stop it for you or not to take precautions against these things. It does say however not to live fear.
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