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Topic: McCarl? Saldana? How about Sammy and Steve....
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racinrebel
February 28, 2007 at 12:54:47 AM
Joined: 10/30/2005
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Figured that would get some attention...Imagine if this message board existed back in........well, anyone remember in '92 at the Eagle Nationals when Sammy got fined $500 for taking Steve out... and then, Steve getting fined $2,500 for shoving a WoO official outta the way and punching Sammy in the face on the frontstretch? I would have loved to read the Sammy vs. Steve posts then, except it probably would have taken two days to read 'em all!!!!

 


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Michael 98A
February 28, 2007 at 03:23:24 AM
Joined: 11/30/2004
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Yeah, The 1992 Eagle Nationals "Choke-Hold"...

Sammy Swindell started next to Steve Kinser on the front row at the start of the Bar's Leaks Dash. The two Champions exited the fourth corner side-by-side. Before they reached the flag stand, Kinser drifts high, Swindell (assumes) Kinser is forcing him to the outside retaining wall. Swindell slows down and attempts to cut behind Kinser. Swindell's efforts came a split second before Kinser cleared, leaving Swindell to clip Kinser's rear bumper sending Kinser into the outside wall.

Andy Hillenburg then ran over Kinser's right rear tire, sending him on his side and bringing out the red. Kinser jumped out of his car and walked down the front straight in the direction of Swindell.

Kinser was warned by WoO Competition Director Bobby Jackson, that any physical action between he and Swindell would result in a fine. Kinser assured Jackson that he only wanted to talk to Swindell. Despite the efforts of WoO Operations Director, Rick Ferkel, Kinser continued to pursue Swindell. Finally reaching Swindell, Kinser shouts at the rival and an altercation ensued with Kinser getting Swindell into a brief choke-hold. Kinser, who had to be restrained by Ferkel, was fined $500 for his part in instigating the scuffle.

Couple of other memorable "discussions":

1993 Historical Big One...Security was called when Eldora Track Official Rick Nichols was near the 2nd place finisher, Mark Kinser. Nichols was getting ready to check the engine size when Kinser crew member Joe "Tube" Houck then grabbed Nichols in a headlock from behind and jumped on his back, sending both men to the ground. Houck was fined $500 by the Eldora Speedway Officials.

1991 King's Royal-Johnny Herrera and Lary Helms tangle in the Fourth Heat Race and a heated exchange between Herrera, Helms (still strapped in his car) and Helms crew members which result in Herrera being escorted off the Speedway as he may have struck an Official trying to break up the discussion.

Ahhhhh, Racin' Deals. Now a guy says words often heard on broadcast TV and he marked as the Anti-Christ...



eagleyephotos
February 28, 2007 at 07:02:36 AM
Joined: 11/01/2005
Posts: 177
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Anyone at Lawton Speedway when Kevin Ramey and Foster Landon had a little meeting on the exit of turn 4 at end of the A-main during the ASCS Speedweek?? Things did not fair too well for Foster...



petey
February 28, 2007 at 08:10:40 AM
Joined: 12/03/2004
Posts: 822
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Michael your version of the Eagle Nats. story sounds a little more accurate. From what I remember reading Steve didn't get a punch in but did get a hold of Sammy. Someone took a good picture of the scuffle. It made Open Wheel a few times. Shows Ferkel pulling Steve away from Sammy. If anyone out there can track it down please post it. Comparing Rick to Steve size wise, I'd rather mess with Steve than the Ohio Traveler anyday!

I remember seeing some photos of Steve and Hillenburg wrecking at Calistoga in 94. Photos of the wreck and the pit scuffle of course made Open Wheel. Looked like Andy was taking Steve down.



Gary Thomas
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February 28, 2007 at 09:14:48 AM
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That Kinser/Hillenberg deal at Calistoga is still a vivid memory in my mind. I would only been 7 but I sure as heck remember the reaction from the crowd. Priceless memories. :)


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