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Topic: MIT Developing Titanium at 1/10th the Cost?
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cubicdollars
December 31, 2006 at 10:49:22 AM
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Avanti Metals (2006 MIT Venture Runner-up)
During the 1990s, NASA funded Dr. Donald Sadoway, a world-renowned expert in electrochemistry at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, to develop technology to produce oxygen on the moon. Dr. Sadoway theorized that the most effective means to produce oxygen was with extreme molten oxide electrolysis, powered by the sun's energy. Fortunately, this electrochemical process also produces an important by-product: liquid titanium. Two years ago, the MIT Deshpande Center funded testing of Dr. Sadoway's theory. In the lab, Dr. Sadoway successfully demonstrated the ability to produce liquid metal using molten oxide electrochemistry, a feat which had never been accomplished before. In June 2005, the MIT Deshpande Center established the MIT Two-year Titanium Initiative to further investigate the use of this "green" technology. Since June, Jeff Sabados has discovered the "Sadoway Process" will allow Avanti Metal Company (AMC) to sell Titanium products at 1/10th of their current price, use ½ of the current capital, and create only 1/100th of the hazardous waste and pollution. This proprietary, one-step, "green" process will replace the multi-step, batch process currently used today. AMC will assemble a team of scientist by August 2006 to scale-up our lab reactor to a 200ton/yr titanium smelter. We have already identified an aluminum smelter manufacturer who will design and mass produce titanium smelters, with a target production date of August 2008. By 2008 we want to have multiple mini-mills producing numerous low cost titanium products. Since our titanium smelter will reduce the value chain to one mini-mill with extremely low capital costs, we believe the Sadoway process is a multi-billion dollar a year "green" business opportunity.

More information: A Cleaner, Cheaper Route to Titanium


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


DrakPak
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December 31, 2006 at 12:21:42 PM
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Interesting!! Now if we could get them to work on Hoosier Tires.........;)


"The Outlaws have people out here that don’t know 
anything about racing. I don’t understand how they 
come up with some of the calls they do. It makes me 
think that they just might be that stupid. It’s 
scary."     -Steve Kinser

BigRightRear
December 31, 2006 at 04:41:46 PM
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saving 410 racing!


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

cubicdollars
December 31, 2006 at 05:28:17 PM
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Posted By: DrakPak on December 31 2006 at 12:21:42 PM

Interesting!! Now if we could get them to work on Hoosier Tires.........wink



I hear ya Drak...lol.

While I'm not totally happy with the Hoosier "spec" tire proposal that the World of Outlaws is planning. (I had hoped they would have just followed the late models lead and just have gone to a smaller tire instead, still leaving things "open" to all manunfacturers... I don’t like "spec" heads either.) That being said I do believe spec tires could ultimately be the cheapest way to go... I think Doug Auld’s column in Sprint Car and Midget a while back about the late model driver winning five $10,000 shows with a single hard "spec" right rear tire pretty much killed any doubt there...lol.

As far as titanium goes... if they can pull off cheap titanium it will surely revolutionize the aircraft industries and maybe even the pipe/pipeline industries because of titanium’s non-corrosive properties. I still don’t really think it has a place in sprint car racing however... I’m pretty sure it’s even banned in NASCAR and the IRL so why are grassroots race teams forced into shelling out thousands extra to be able to compete?

Red Devil Titanium Rotor Pricing: $749.95

Wilwood Steel Rotor Pricing: $89.95

Titanium Driveline Kit Pricing: $1510.95

Steel Driveline Kit Pricing: $679.95


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


Hawker
December 31, 2006 at 06:12:58 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on December 31 2006 at 05:28:17 PM

I hear ya Drak...lol.

While I'm not totally happy with the Hoosier "spec" tire proposal that the World of Outlaws is planning. (I had hoped they would have just followed the late models lead and just have gone to a smaller tire instead, still leaving things "open" to all manunfacturers... I don’t like "spec" heads either.) That being said I do believe spec tires could ultimately be the cheapest way to go... I think Doug Auld’s column in Sprint Car and Midget a while back about the late model driver winning five $10,000 shows with a single hard "spec" right rear tire pretty much killed any doubt there...lol.

As far as titanium goes... if they can pull off cheap titanium it will surely revolutionize the aircraft industries and maybe even the pipe/pipeline industries because of titanium’s non-corrosive properties. I still don’t really think it has a place in sprint car racing however... I’m pretty sure it’s even banned in NASCAR and the IRL so why are grassroots race teams forced into shelling out thousands extra to be able to compete?

Red Devil Titanium Rotor Pricing: $749.95

Wilwood Steel Rotor Pricing: $89.95

Titanium Driveline Kit Pricing: $1510.95

Steel Driveline Kit Pricing: $679.95



I doubt that it will change much in aviation. It will still need that little PMA stamp on it and that alone would give most people sticker shock.

 


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Speedbump
December 31, 2006 at 08:10:25 PM
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Cubic, rumor has it that the WoO LM's will allow the promoter to determine the tire rule for each event in 2007. At least one (Davenport 1/4 mile) has mandated the exact same d55/WRS/WDRL tire that Birky won those 5 races on.

If true, it will propel the WoO LM's to the front of the "major touring" hodgepodge of LM sanctions. With open tires, I predict that their would have been less than 30 cars at the Dav show, if d55 only is indeed the tire rule, look for 50-60.

The smaller and harder the tire rule, the more I seem to enjoy the racing.



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