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Topic: The difference between sprint cars and NASCAR
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Murphy
February 23, 2020 at 09:38:14 PM
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Sprint car racing features open wheel, high-horsepower, winged cars racing in a fast-paced feature race typically between 20 and 30 laps (sometimes up to 50, or two 25 lap segments.) :)

Nascar racing features multiple roller derby teams of rolling advertisements owned by milllionaires running in a long-distance, fast, parade, followed by a huge wreck; all the while having some of the most annoying announcer falling all over themselves telling what a great race it is. :(



Dryslick Willie
February 24, 2020 at 08:02:49 AM
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And yet you watched it!



m_cox22
February 24, 2020 at 08:09:38 AM
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Posted By: Murphy on February 23 2020 at 09:38:14 PM

Sprint car racing features open wheel, high-horsepower, winged cars racing in a fast-paced feature race typically between 20 and 30 laps (sometimes up to 50, or two 25 lap segments.) Smile

Nascar racing features multiple roller derby teams of rolling advertisements owned by milllionaires running in a long-distance, fast, parade, followed by a huge wreck; all the while having some of the most annoying announcer falling all over themselves telling what a great race it is. frown



I hope you're referring to like local 360 sprint car racing because the WOO are mostly all owned by millionaires and their cars are billboards on wheels as well. I have no problem with that, I'm just saying it works the same way.

Certain aspects of Nascar I dont enjoy myself but i'm also not going to bash it or not turn it on because no single entity has funneled more money back into the sport of sprint car racing than Nascar. I just wonder where the sport would be without the likes of Tony Stewart, Kasey Kahne, Kyle Larson and Ricky Stenhouse. Hell even Jeff was involved in Gravels Knoxville ride last year. 

I just think all the Nascar "haters" should take a step back and try to look at the big picture. For me, I'll try to support Nascar as much as possible because I want to see the likes of Christopher Bell and David Gravel someday be the car owner of some up and coming superstar.

 

 



egras
February 24, 2020 at 08:57:51 AM
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It's that time of year folks......Sunday afternoon sports consists of NHL hockey---my Hawks are out of it, PBA Bowling, and Nascar. 

I actually watched the race yesterday from 1/2 way to the end.  I was very surprised at the quality of racing yesterday.  It was actually very good.  If you could look into a crystal ball and tell me 1/2 of the races this year were going to be as competitive as Vegas was yesterday, I would tune in and watch all of them to tell you the truth.  

JMO

 

(I still thought Daytona was a pile of garbage like usual)



StanM
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February 24, 2020 at 08:58:58 AM
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This message was edited on February 24, 2020 at 09:02:53 AM by StanM

Simple solution.  Don't watch NASCAR.  Dave Blaney's son Ryan is leading the points after two races with Larson and Stenhouse both with Sprint Car roots are in the top five and Bell is a rookie this year. What's not to like when we can root on drivers who ran Sprints and the son of a former WoO champion and Nationals winner?

I like NASCAR and enjoyed yesterday's Vegas race.  I think NASCAR's fluence  is good for all types of racing. It adds legitimacy to the sport in the eyes of the public that benefits all types of racing.  I grew up with Supermodifieds and later Sprints in my family and have been watching them since 1960.  I have been watching NASCAR since their earliest televised races as well.  

Sprint Car snobbery  would not make me look cool.  It would make me look like someone who needs to get out and see more of the world and what life has to offer.  


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Murphy
February 24, 2020 at 10:41:10 AM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on February 24 2020 at 08:02:49 AM

And yet you watched it!



     Well, to be honest, no, I didn't watch it. I went back and watched the highlights after the fact when the seriousness of the crash made the news. My wife, a non-race fan, asked me what I knew about the crash as she had heard and seen things on the news. Imagine yourself trying to explain things like team racing, bump drafting, pack racing and restrictor plates to a non-racefan. Explaining sprintcars is much more straightforward.



RaceNut01
February 24, 2020 at 11:16:55 AM
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The NASCAR race yesterday was actually very good if you took the time to watch it. Lots of passing and battling. I think if all these NASCAR haters actually took a step back and realized the importance of the series from a holistic perspective, their attitudes would change. Right now you could argue a large percentage of the top Sprint car series are indirectly funded by NASCAR.

- Eldora/All Stars series/ Tony Stewart Racing= NASCAR money.

- Kyle Larson Racing = NASCAR money.

- Kasey Kahne Racing = NASCAR money.

- Stenhouse- Marshall Racing = Half NASCAR money.

- The World Finals = NASCAR money (at a NASCAR track).



revjimk
February 24, 2020 at 12:07:44 PM
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Posted By: m_cox22 on February 24 2020 at 08:09:38 AM

I hope you're referring to like local 360 sprint car racing because the WOO are mostly all owned by millionaires and their cars are billboards on wheels as well. I have no problem with that, I'm just saying it works the same way.

Certain aspects of Nascar I dont enjoy myself but i'm also not going to bash it or not turn it on because no single entity has funneled more money back into the sport of sprint car racing than Nascar. I just wonder where the sport would be without the likes of Tony Stewart, Kasey Kahne, Kyle Larson and Ricky Stenhouse. Hell even Jeff was involved in Gravels Knoxville ride last year. 

I just think all the Nascar "haters" should take a step back and try to look at the big picture. For me, I'll try to support Nascar as much as possible because I want to see the likes of Christopher Bell and David Gravel someday be the car owner of some up and coming superstar.

 

 



Not a "Hater", just not interested

But i appreciate their monetary contributions to sprint car racing



revjimk
February 24, 2020 at 12:08:29 PM
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This message was edited on February 24, 2020 at 12:09:11 PM by revjimk
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Posted By: egras on February 24 2020 at 08:57:51 AM

It's that time of year folks......Sunday afternoon sports consists of NHL hockey---my Hawks are out of it, PBA Bowling, and Nascar. 

I actually watched the race yesterday from 1/2 way to the end.  I was very surprised at the quality of racing yesterday.  It was actually very good.  If you could look into a crystal ball and tell me 1/2 of the races this year were going to be as competitive as Vegas was yesterday, I would tune in and watch all of them to tell you the truth.  

JMO

 

(I still thought Daytona was a pile of garbage like usual)



So I guess you don't like basketball? ;)



linbob
February 24, 2020 at 05:38:02 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on February 23 2020 at 09:38:14 PM

Sprint car racing features open wheel, high-horsepower, winged cars racing in a fast-paced feature race typically between 20 and 30 laps (sometimes up to 50, or two 25 lap segments.) Smile

Nascar racing features multiple roller derby teams of rolling advertisements owned by milllionaires running in a long-distance, fast, parade, followed by a huge wreck; all the while having some of the most annoying announcer falling all over themselves telling what a great race it is. frown



One difference is NASCAR  drivers make 20 times the money as they can racing sprintcars.  I am a sprint/midget fan but a guy has to make a living if it his profession.



StanM
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February 24, 2020 at 05:53:55 PM
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Posted By: linbob on February 24 2020 at 05:38:02 PM

One difference is NASCAR  drivers make 20 times the money as they can racing sprintcars.  I am a sprint/midget fan but a guy has to make a living if it his profession.



It would be pretty hard for one of these drivers to tell their wife "honey, I decided to turn down that quality NASCAR ride and the opportunity to make millions and set our kids up for life because Sprint Cars are that cool".  Only some of these die hards on hoseheads would do that.  


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Murphy
February 24, 2020 at 07:53:05 PM
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Posted By: RaceNut01 on February 24 2020 at 11:16:55 AM

The NASCAR race yesterday was actually very good if you took the time to watch it. Lots of passing and battling. I think if all these NASCAR haters actually took a step back and realized the importance of the series from a holistic perspective, their attitudes would change. Right now you could argue a large percentage of the top Sprint car series are indirectly funded by NASCAR.

- Eldora/All Stars series/ Tony Stewart Racing= NASCAR money.

- Kyle Larson Racing = NASCAR money.

- Kasey Kahne Racing = NASCAR money.

- Stenhouse- Marshall Racing = Half NASCAR money.

- The World Finals = NASCAR money (at a NASCAR track).



      I like that post. I even had to go look up holistic to make sure it meant what I thought it meant. You make a good ppint about the tie-ins and the money.

     I'm with revjimk. I'm not a hater, I've just gotten to the point where NASCAR has become rather uninteresting.



egras
February 24, 2020 at 09:13:17 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on February 24 2020 at 12:08:29 PM

So I guess you don't like basketball? wink



Does my son's regional game count?

 

I'll watch the tournament but that's about it :)



broadslider
February 24, 2020 at 09:24:54 PM
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Posted By: linbob on February 24 2020 at 05:38:02 PM

One difference is NASCAR  drivers make 20 times the money as they can racing sprintcars.  I am a sprint/midget fan but a guy has to make a living if it his profession.



and a NASCAR driver can make that 20x by racing in a third the anount of races


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Nick14
February 25, 2020 at 07:45:16 AM
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I haven't been able to really watch Nascar since I cut cable a few years ago. Currently this is the 3rd season that I will/cannot watch. Previous years I just would watch some of the highlights but sometimes those were hard because of the announcing. I know the final couple seasons that I watched I would have the tv on mute and have the radio on MRN, that way I did not have to hear the Waltrips or the NBC people get overly excited. Its hard to gauge how the racing is through highlight packages though but it is good to see that some on here have stated that the race was good overall on Sunday. I want all forms of motorsports to succeed because it is good for motorsports in general. Been thinking about taking my son to at least a truck race either at Kentucky or Michigan this year, so I might just go ahead and purchase tickets. Still prefer Sprint Car racing but that does not mean I cannot enjoy both. 



bgtexpress
February 25, 2020 at 08:13:12 AM
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NASCAR has a place in my history. Ive been to Dover, Pocono, Richmond and Watkins Glenn on multiple occassions. However being a die hard dirt track fan, now when I watch, I look to see how Larson, Newman and this season Bell in the Cup Cars, Briscoe in Xfinity and Friesen in the trucks are doing. Once they drop out, I lose interest fairly quickly. For the Daytona weekend, I did catch parts of all three divisions on TV and hardly recoginized any of the drivers in Xfinity and the trucks.....they seemed very young to me and as an avid race fan, I was surprised that I did not know much about their racing backgrounds. Give me a sprint car, dirt late model or modified race any day of the week and I am hooked. NASCAR not so much any more.



revjimk
February 25, 2020 at 10:38:46 AM
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Posted By: egras on February 24 2020 at 09:13:17 PM

Does my son's regional game count?

 

I'll watch the tournament but that's about it Smile



You should have seen Duke/NC game last week (or so?) After last 100 games, not only had each team won 50, but the cumulative score was tied. After regulation time ended, still tied. And Duke had to pull off a play i've seen many times, even tried it myself, & don't recall ever seeing it work: intentional missed free throw (MUCH harder than you'd imagine. gotta hit the rim) Duke played slammed it off the rim, came right back to him & he hit a heavily contested 2 pointer. to tie. NC, which is having the worst season I can recall in almost 60 years of watching (losing record), ended up beating Top Ten Duke in OT

NCAA tourney is my favorite sporting event, period.... enjoy! :)

& OF COURSE your son's games count! So do pickup & Rec league games....



RaceNut01
February 25, 2020 at 10:39:57 AM
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NASCAR has a place in my history. Ive been to Dover, Pocono, Richmond and Watkins Glenn on multiple occassions. However being a die hard dirt track fan, now when I watch, I look to see how Larson, Newman and this season Bell in the Cup Cars, Briscoe in Xfinity and Friesen in the trucks are doing. Once they drop out, I lose interest fairly quickly. For the Daytona weekend, I did catch parts of all three divisions on TV and hardly recoginized any of the drivers in Xfinity and the trucks.....they seemed very young to me and as an avid race fan, I was surprised that I did not know much about their racing backgrounds. Give me a sprint car, dirt late model or modified race any day of the week and I am hooked. NASCAR not so much any more.



This is my biggest complaint. We are getting a lot of young and inexperienced drivers in the NASCAR ranks who haven't ran much of any short track stuff besides a late model season or 2. They are coming in with family money, pushing lower funded guys out. It is crazy to me someone with an extensive winning background, thinking of guys like Ty Majeski on the asphalt side or David Gravel on the dirt side who have won A LOT at races all across the country struggle to get a NASCAR ride, while randoms who won a limited late model race 5 years ago but have family money can get into the top 3 series no problem.

 

I like NASCAR, I watch all the races (I have a group of friends from all over the country who are into it so we bench race about it and do meet ups at races, so it keeps me engaged), and I have found enjoyment in it. That said, if there is a dirt race nearby, chances are I am going to be at that over NASCAR any day of the week.



revjimk
February 25, 2020 at 10:40:47 AM
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It would be pretty hard for one of these drivers to tell their wife "honey, I decided to turn down that quality NASCAR ride and the opportunity to make millions and set our kids up for life because Sprint Cars are that cool".  Only some of these die hards on hoseheads would do that.  



They might SAY they'd do it, but faced with the opportunity for big $$$, vast majority would take it...Then maybe go sprint car racing for a hobby



StanM
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February 25, 2020 at 02:28:57 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on February 25 2020 at 10:40:47 AM

They might SAY they'd do it, but faced with the opportunity for big $$$, vast majority would take it...Then maybe go sprint car racing for a hobby



Some NASCAR car owners will allow their drivers to moonlight and others won't.  I can understand where they would be resistant as owners and sponsors make a huge investment in their drivers.  As much as I like Sprint Cars if by some miracle I ever owned a NASCAR team I might be tempted to go that route with my team of drivers.  


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