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Topic: What the heck did I miss at Lincoln?
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wolfgang29
June 25, 2017 at 04:29:47 AM
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 So, the one night I stay home and I missed a heck of race & a heck of a victory lane incident.  I'm not looking to start any arguments or get into any graphic detail, but can someone fill me in on what happened in victory lane that apparently has people pissed off 



D1RT
June 25, 2017 at 09:39:15 AM
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Must not have been too good as someone took the video off the Lincoln twitter account.



BigRightRear
June 25, 2017 at 10:11:53 AM
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Seated in Area 51.. We saw ncredible racing between the top 3 from lap 15 / checkers at 25.

Hatfield and McCoy family feud building between House of Rahmer and the Dietrich Clan...comparavelt to mouth of the south and Fred Sr. 

Serveral close calls / wheel to wheel intimidation in the closing laps...with the Brothers Dietrich on the top two steps of the podium. Danny broke FCC manners on the mic... And family atmosphere decorum. 

No damage to either car that I saw... But the heat is on for an expensive speedweek? 

 


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

PMSRacing
June 25, 2017 at 12:12:41 PM
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Best race of year at the stink. Nice clean racing between the 51, 48&8. 



PMSRacing
June 25, 2017 at 12:16:39 PM
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By the way if Freds pissed, lincoln do'nt pay boys to come to the races. RICO!



beezr2002
June 25, 2017 at 12:39:51 PM
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This message was edited on June 25, 2017 at 12:41:15 PM by beezr2002


revjimk
June 25, 2017 at 01:25:49 PM
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Sounds like Saturday nite was fun at either Pa. sprint track!



revjimk
June 25, 2017 at 01:45:06 PM
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Sounds like fun.... any videos?

I don't get Lincoln points system.... Monteith with 1 win way ahead of Dietriech with 4??? I guess its weighted heavily toward showing up for every race?



Beer Time
June 25, 2017 at 02:02:57 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on June 25 2017 at 01:45:06 PM

Sounds like fun.... any videos?

I don't get Lincoln points system.... Monteith with 1 win way ahead of Dietriech with 4??? I guess its weighted heavily toward showing up for every race?



As it should be.



revjimk
June 25, 2017 at 02:20:49 PM
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This message was edited on June 25, 2017 at 02:22:01 PM by revjimk
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Posted By: Beer Time on June 25 2017 at 02:02:57 PM

As it should be.



I don't know... that makes sense from the track's interests, but if someone shows up & kicks ass, they should get credit

They can do what they want, its their investment....



alum.427
June 25, 2017 at 03:35:59 PM
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Huh, pts. for ass kissin, o kicking sorry. Go to burger King and get DD a kids meal with a crown. Bot he'll get miles on that one with social media. 



GTigers55
June 25, 2017 at 04:29:34 PM
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Points are to reward consistent finishing and racing at a track or series. Just because you're the best at a track if you don't come to all the races and aren't racing for points there you ain't gonna win track championship. Seems like DD ain't chasing so no harm no foul.



revjimk
June 25, 2017 at 06:17:04 PM
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Posted By: alum.427 on June 25 2017 at 03:35:59 PM

Huh, pts. for ass kissin, o kicking sorry. Go to burger King and get DD a kids meal with a crown. Bot he'll get miles on that one with social media. 



Whaaa?



revjimk
June 25, 2017 at 06:18:48 PM
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Posted By: GTigers55 on June 25 2017 at 04:29:34 PM

Points are to reward consistent finishing and racing at a track or series. Just because you're the best at a track if you don't come to all the races and aren't racing for points there you ain't gonna win track championship. Seems like DD ain't chasing so no harm no foul.



Sounds fair from the track's standpoint, I've never owned a track

I was just thinking "who did best"



turn4guy
June 25, 2017 at 06:50:37 PM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on June 25 2017 at 10:11:53 AM

Seated in Area 51.. We saw ncredible racing between the top 3 from lap 15 / checkers at 25.

Hatfield and McCoy family feud building between House of Rahmer and the Dietrich Clan...comparavelt to mouth of the south and Fred Sr. 

Serveral close calls / wheel to wheel intimidation in the closing laps...with the Brothers Dietrich on the top two steps of the podium. Danny broke FCC manners on the mic... And family atmosphere decorum. 

No damage to either car that I saw... But the heat is on for an expensive speedweek? 

 



Danny didn't yell it. Gary Kaufman came to Danny just as he was about to do the interview with Wayne and yelled "Fuck the Rahmers!" Which is not an uncommon thing at the racetrack. But the mic was on and it broadcasted over the pa. Now I'm sure Gary has been to a race or two. You gotta know where you're at dude. Now I have to explain once again to people that Central PA is not full of dumb rednecks. Which gets harder to do every year. From throwing beers at Donny Schatz, to the Beer Hill cheerleaders, and now this?? Starting to really piss me off. PA used to be known for good rides, good drivers, best fans. Now we're known for punk ass redneck fans and declining rides and drivers. And don't even get me started on PA speedweek racing twice at 3 different tracks. I can't wait to get to Knoxville.



cubicdollars
June 25, 2017 at 07:15:35 PM
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Posted By: turn4guy on June 25 2017 at 06:50:37 PM

Danny didn't yell it. Gary Kaufman came to Danny just as he was about to do the interview with Wayne and yelled "Fuck the Rahmers!" Which is not an uncommon thing at the racetrack. But the mic was on and it broadcasted over the pa. Now I'm sure Gary has been to a race or two. You gotta know where you're at dude. Now I have to explain once again to people that Central PA is not full of dumb rednecks. Which gets harder to do every year. From throwing beers at Donny Schatz, to the Beer Hill cheerleaders, and now this?? Starting to really piss me off. PA used to be known for good rides, good drivers, best fans. Now we're known for punk ass redneck fans and declining rides and drivers. And don't even get me started on PA speedweek racing twice at 3 different tracks. I can't wait to get to Knoxville.



Keep packing the stands baby Smile

DD and squad are just picking up where Jeff Shepard left off, and Rahmer is the commonality is both cases.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


Johnny Utah
June 25, 2017 at 07:49:52 PM
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Posted By: turn4guy on June 25 2017 at 06:50:37 PM

Danny didn't yell it. Gary Kaufman came to Danny just as he was about to do the interview with Wayne and yelled "Fuck the Rahmers!" Which is not an uncommon thing at the racetrack. But the mic was on and it broadcasted over the pa. Now I'm sure Gary has been to a race or two. You gotta know where you're at dude. Now I have to explain once again to people that Central PA is not full of dumb rednecks. Which gets harder to do every year. From throwing beers at Donny Schatz, to the Beer Hill cheerleaders, and now this?? Starting to really piss me off. PA used to be known for good rides, good drivers, best fans. Now we're known for punk ass redneck fans and declining rides and drivers. And don't even get me started on PA speedweek racing twice at 3 different tracks. I can't wait to get to Knoxville.



I definitely arched an eyebrow when I saw this year's speedweek schedule.  Not a lot of variety going on there.  

As far as Knoxville goes.... 41 days and counting until I leave.

 



fiXXXer
June 26, 2017 at 03:02:54 AM
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Posted By: turn4guy on June 25 2017 at 06:50:37 PM

Danny didn't yell it. Gary Kaufman came to Danny just as he was about to do the interview with Wayne and yelled "Fuck the Rahmers!" Which is not an uncommon thing at the racetrack. But the mic was on and it broadcasted over the pa. Now I'm sure Gary has been to a race or two. You gotta know where you're at dude. Now I have to explain once again to people that Central PA is not full of dumb rednecks. Which gets harder to do every year. From throwing beers at Donny Schatz, to the Beer Hill cheerleaders, and now this?? Starting to really piss me off. PA used to be known for good rides, good drivers, best fans. Now we're known for punk ass redneck fans and declining rides and drivers. And don't even get me started on PA speedweek racing twice at 3 different tracks. I can't wait to get to Knoxville.



Couldn't have said it better. That's exactly how I feel. No coincidence all of this is happening a week before Fred's big Speedweek show at Path Valley & just today, Rahmer Promotions announced their "Anybody but Dietrich" bounty. It's a shame that in Central PA, we now have to resort to WWE tactics instead of good, hard, exciting racing to sell tickets in the age of dirty air & cushion free skating rinks masquerading as dirt tracks. If this keeps up, Posse land is destined to become the Bowman Gray of the North & at that point, most of the race fans will be doing other things on the weekends while the stands are filled with dumb drunk rednecks who could give a shit less about actual racing because they'd much rather fist fight over whose driver is less dirty & heave beer cans at the "bad guy".



19 Posse
June 26, 2017 at 05:50:33 AM
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Central pa and bowman gray don't belong in the same sentence. Central pa will always have more class  

this is what the sport needs...DD puts butts in the seats. Like it or not. 



Nickules
June 26, 2017 at 08:16:59 AM
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DD definitively puts butts in the seats and is the type of driver that's good for the sport - sometimes outspoken who can back it up on the track and is great with fans in the pits (yep, read that last part again. If you've ever approached DD in the pits, especially if you have young kids, he's great with fans)....

Yeah, Gary yelling "F...." and it being caught on the PA system is, ummmm...not the best look.  I understand it was an exciting race that was probably awesome for the car owner so I actually appreciate the excitement and have no problems with the statement Gary said to DD.  Just sucks it got picked up on the PA.  The optics are bad.  You can say maybe that's better said/left for when they get back to the hauler, but this was heat of the moment type stuff so again I don't have a problem with it.  It was just unfortunate it got picked up.  

Rahmer Productions creating a bounty or manufacturing a rivalry may not be in the best taste, but they're business people.  I don't have to like it to undersatand their motivation to do this.  Not like it's out of character for Fred to do it either:)  



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