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Topic: SHATZ COMPLETE TEAR DOWN ??????????????
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BLUTEAM
February 06, 2009 at 12:07:07 AM
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Posted By: filtalr on February 05 2009 at 11:40:12 PM

They left the mag cap loose is what I hear. So they're human... wink



An obvious result of removing the cheater part in a last minute hurry in fear of these threads calling for the 15 to be torn down and/or claimed.

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jholz2002
February 06, 2009 at 12:30:56 AM
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Posted By: dirtracefan21 on February 05 2009 at 11:34:28 PM

I completely disagree with you. The world hasnt changed....people have!! People will cheat now more than ever just to get a leg up on the competition. Just look at other sports.....especially baseball. We all know people like Barry Bonds,Roger Clemens, Mark McGwire, and Sammy Sosa all took steroids but yet they deny it. Thats why I respect guys like Jason Giambi and Jose Canseco(even though he is crazy) because they admitted they did. They had nothing to hide. So why does that make the sport of racing any different?? I will agree Donny is a pretty good driver even though I cant stand the man. Look at it this way....I absolutely LOVE Sammy Swindell as opposed to Schatz, and I cant hack Swindell neither. So I dont blame other people for question his credintials. Did Steve Kinser have a leg up on other drivers when he won all those championships and races?? Who knows. I dont know if anybody ever questioned that...and we will probably never know. But I will always say Steve Kinser WAS and still IS the greatest racecar driver ever to get in the seat!! Schatz has a long way to go to be even mentioned in the same breath as Steve!



I do have to ask one thing. Steve may not have been illegal at the time, but how many rules are there now because of his dominance? The thing is, you find loop holes to every rule and try to get a leg up on everybody, thats part of the game. When they find out what you are doing different, they make a rule to outlaw it or everybody else starts doing it. If Schatz and crew have found something that works that nobody else has found yet and it passes tech inspection, then good for them. I once heard a local driver around here (that has one quite a few races) say, "if your not cheating, your not trying hard enough." I bet if they completely tore down all 24 cars in the A-main, half would be DQed. Most of your fast cars cheat, either local or national. Just part of the sport we love.



BigRightRear
February 06, 2009 at 01:11:54 AM
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Posted By: fastharris55 on February 05 2009 at 06:10:10 PM

If 90% of them ran it why would they protest it on each other? If one team protested the whole series would implode. The reason the world of outlaw officials have blinders on when it comes to this stuff is because it helps WoO teams against local cars from around the county. If this is the case how could anyone prove it?? not like the government is going to investigate.


When was the last time you have seen a press release stating the WoO randomly tech'd cars and either found or didn't find anything?? After the questions raised with schatz fire at Gold Cup why didn't the WoO look further into it?It's gone deeper than just having traction control!


WoO has to protect itself and it's drivers to keep what they have going. Problem is they need to do a better job not showing fans and other competitors they are doing this.

 



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Dick Dastardly
February 06, 2009 at 03:15:05 AM
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You guys are kidding arent you he aint cheating, he is just on top of his shit at the moment. He has smoked them all in the US the last couple of years, he has gone to australia and smoked them all down there, without warner i might add. he is a great driver/mechanic, he knows exactly what he wants in the car and those guys give it to him............To all you whiners/haters,grab a beer.....take a seat.....and whatch the best in the business right now put a whoopin on them all again this year........with or without TSR the result will be the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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wingnut15
February 06, 2009 at 08:29:31 AM
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Posted By: dirtracefan21 on February 05 2009 at 11:34:28 PM

I completely disagree with you. The world hasnt changed....people have!! People will cheat now more than ever just to get a leg up on the competition. Just look at other sports.....especially baseball. We all know people like Barry Bonds,Roger Clemens, Mark McGwire, and Sammy Sosa all took steroids but yet they deny it. Thats why I respect guys like Jason Giambi and Jose Canseco(even though he is crazy) because they admitted they did. They had nothing to hide. So why does that make the sport of racing any different?? I will agree Donny is a pretty good driver even though I cant stand the man. Look at it this way....I absolutely LOVE Sammy Swindell as opposed to Schatz, and I cant hack Swindell neither. So I dont blame other people for question his credintials. Did Steve Kinser have a leg up on other drivers when he won all those championships and races?? Who knows. I dont know if anybody ever questioned that...and we will probably never know. But I will always say Steve Kinser WAS and still IS the greatest racecar driver ever to get in the seat!! Schatz has a long way to go to be even mentioned in the same breath as Steve!



Yes, Kinser is the best ever! Donny has done some things that only Kinser himself has done - so you should mention them in the same breath.



wingnut15
February 06, 2009 at 08:38:18 AM
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Posted By: fastharris55 on February 05 2009 at 06:10:10 PM

If 90% of them ran it why would they protest it on each other? If one team protested the whole series would implode. The reason the world of outlaw officials have blinders on when it comes to this stuff is because it helps WoO teams against local cars from around the county. If this is the case how could anyone prove it?? not like the government is going to investigate.


When was the last time you have seen a press release stating the WoO randomly tech'd cars and either found or didn't find anything?? After the questions raised with schatz fire at Gold Cup why didn't the WoO look further into it?It's gone deeper than just having traction control!


WoO has to protect itself and it's drivers to keep what they have going. Problem is they need to do a better job not showing fans and other competitors they are doing this.

 



That's is about the most idotic claim I've read. I guess local teams don't use them. Only the outlaws. It'd be really funny if they tore down all the outlaw teams and no one had TC. What the hell would you idiots say then? Always something!! The fire at Gold Cup - isn't there an additive to the fuel to help the safety crews more easily identify when there is a fire?!!!



wingnut15
February 06, 2009 at 08:39:13 AM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on February 06 2009 at 01:11:54 AM
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harddrive
February 06, 2009 at 09:06:45 AM
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... turn back the clock some 25 years and change name from Donnie to Steve ... some things never change ... thinking ...


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Posted By: harddrive on February 06 2009 at 09:06:45 AM

... turn back the clock some 25 years and change name from Donnie to Steve ... some things never change ... thinking ...



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dirtracefan21
February 06, 2009 at 10:47:34 AM
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Posted By: wingnut15 on February 06 2009 at 08:29:31 AM

Yes, Kinser is the best ever! Donny has done some things that only Kinser himself has done - so you should mention them in the same breath.



When he has won 20 Championships and over 500 races...then I'll mention his name!


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wingnut15
February 06, 2009 at 11:02:52 AM
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Posted By: dirtracefan21 on February 06 2009 at 10:47:34 AM

When he has won 20 Championships and over 500 races...then I'll mention his name!



Well then - you don't mention anyone in the same breath as Kinser?



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