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May 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: rob t. on May 19 2020 at 09:16:15 PM
Your struggling here. There is over 90K dead and that is with a semi shutdown and zero national plan and misplaced division instead of uniting the states. It has not "just dissappeared". If no shutdown by governors (rep or dem) it would be way worse. NY was preparing for the worst hoping for the best. The refrigerator trucks were real! The deaths are real. Did the doctors you spoke to work in any hotspots? I highly doubt it. If there was leadership and a national plan from the WH you would have been attending races for maybe a few weeks already. You are just not getting it. Until vaccine or cure all this is not going away. If it does go away, its likely coming back. The situation is also compounded with our litigious society. It sucks but that is reality.
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You nailed it 100%.
My parents spoke with a friend of theirs who is a doctor in Michigan. (by the way, my parents think this is all overblown) Out of room for bodies a few weeks ago. Anyone can say "they would have died anyways" or "no different than flu" but he said they have never, ever, run out of room for bodies. He said it's getting better, but if we would have left this thing to spread un-mitigated, it would have been anarchy and disaster in his area. And, he said every urban area would have been exactly the same.
It was all funny memes and "hoax" talk in my county too----until someone died that a bunch of people knew. Now, it's suddenly much more quiet. ???
We are not out of the woods on this when things "open up."
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May 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: rob t. on May 19 2020 at 09:16:15 PM
Your struggling here. There is over 90K dead and that is with a semi shutdown and zero national plan and misplaced division instead of uniting the states. It has not "just dissappeared". If no shutdown by governors (rep or dem) it would be way worse. NY was preparing for the worst hoping for the best. The refrigerator trucks were real! The deaths are real. Did the doctors you spoke to work in any hotspots? I highly doubt it. If there was leadership and a national plan from the WH you would have been attending races for maybe a few weeks already. You are just not getting it. Until vaccine or cure all this is not going away. If it does go away, its likely coming back. The situation is also compounded with our litigious society. It sucks but that is reality.
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But I think we can also agree that the responses by the NY and NJ governors were terrible.
1) not closing the parks until it was too late
2) not cleaning the subways until it was FAR too late
3) not protecting the most vulnerable to the disease, folks in nursing homes
SO I think you can also understand the frustration of many of those not in the hotspots who are affected terribly by this mass shutdown which is a one size fits all scenario instead of a measured response that is needed.
People in the rest of the country should not be penalized by the mistakes of governors in states they don't even visit let alone live.
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May 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: rob t. on May 19 2020 at 09:16:15 PM
Your struggling here. There is over 90K dead and that is with a semi shutdown and zero national plan and misplaced division instead of uniting the states. It has not "just dissappeared". If no shutdown by governors (rep or dem) it would be way worse. NY was preparing for the worst hoping for the best. The refrigerator trucks were real! The deaths are real. Did the doctors you spoke to work in any hotspots? I highly doubt it. If there was leadership and a national plan from the WH you would have been attending races for maybe a few weeks already. You are just not getting it. Until vaccine or cure all this is not going away. If it does go away, its likely coming back. The situation is also compounded with our litigious society. It sucks but that is reality.
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A lot of people will never let themselves come to the realization of how things are unless it directly effects them. We see have seen it all across history people against stem cell research until they or a spouse gets alzheimers then suddenly they have a change of heart, people against that have bad habits then they get cancer directly because of it and then they suddenly have a change of a heart. Quite a few people went public at the beginning of this stating this whole thing was a hoax and we didn't need to take any precautions and they ended up getting it and some dying from it. This whole thing has kind of reminded me of and episode from the old Twilight Zone tv show when "aliens" cut electricity to a town and everyone in the town basically went mad and ended up against each other. At the end of the show it shows the two aliens standing there and one goes "you see, its just that simple. All you have to do to them is turn off their electricity and they will destroy themselves." In this case, all you have to do is take people's ability to sit down in a restuarant (can still order from one) sit inside a bar (can still buy beer), wear a mask to a store (can still go to a lot stores and shop or buy online), or take a few entertainment options away for a very short period of time in retrospect, and everyone just goes insane. Some of it is entertaining though seeing all the people who are still employed, healthy, and have had minimal changes other than their precious entertainment options whine and cry while most people who are now temporary unemployed because of this or have covid 19 basically make the best out of bad situations.
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May 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: Nick14 on May 20 2020 at 04:13:00 PM
A lot of people will never let themselves come to the realization of how things are unless it directly effects them. We see have seen it all across history people against stem cell research until they or a spouse gets alzheimers then suddenly they have a change of heart, people against that have bad habits then they get cancer directly because of it and then they suddenly have a change of a heart. Quite a few people went public at the beginning of this stating this whole thing was a hoax and we didn't need to take any precautions and they ended up getting it and some dying from it. This whole thing has kind of reminded me of and episode from the old Twilight Zone tv show when "aliens" cut electricity to a town and everyone in the town basically went mad and ended up against each other. At the end of the show it shows the two aliens standing there and one goes "you see, its just that simple. All you have to do to them is turn off their electricity and they will destroy themselves." In this case, all you have to do is take people's ability to sit down in a restuarant (can still order from one) sit inside a bar (can still buy beer), wear a mask to a store (can still go to a lot stores and shop or buy online), or take a few entertainment options away for a very short period of time in retrospect, and everyone just goes insane. Some of it is entertaining though seeing all the people who are still employed, healthy, and have had minimal changes other than their precious entertainment options whine and cry while most people who are now temporary unemployed because of this or have covid 19 basically make the best out of bad situations.
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Twilight Zone? You're even cooler than I thought Nick! Classics!
I really never thought I would see people turn on each other so quickly in 8 weeks time. I can't wait to see how society holds itself together in the fall/winter when we go through this all again.
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May 20, 2020 at
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www.careerlink.com there are many listings.
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May 20, 2020 at
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Posted By: egras on May 20 2020 at 06:01:27 PM
Twilight Zone? You're even cooler than I thought Nick! Classics!
I really never thought I would see people turn on each other so quickly in 8 weeks time. I can't wait to see how society holds itself together in the fall/winter when we go through this all again.
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Monsters on Maple Street. No one wants to be like Charlie.
"They pick the most dangerous enemy they can find, and its themselves. They're world is full of Maple Streets, and we'll go from one to the other and let them destroy themselves."
"Prejudices can kill. And a thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout, all of its own. And the pity of it is, that these things cannot be confined, to the Twilight Zone."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5pzSwYaxLg
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May 21, 2020 at
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May 21, 2020 at
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Posted By: MIDDLEFINGER on May 21 2020 at 09:54:21 AM
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Correlation doesn't equal causation. The confounding (lurking) variable in this case is population density. Graphics like this bum me out that schools are shut down. This is a perfect pic for me to be sharing with my AP Statistics class. I still can, and already have, but having the opportunity for students to speak up and discuss it together just isn't there right now.
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