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Keyboard Jockey
August 27, 2020 at 09:24:44 AM
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Posted By: YATYAS on August 27 2020 at 09:09:56 AM

So now that we are a day shy or so of the longest possible incubation period.  How many people that were at Knoxville for the long weekend actually contracted COVID-19?  I have heard about the BIG outbreak.  This week they reported a 60% increase in cases in Knoxville.  Went from 5 to 8.  They could have said only 3 new cases, but no, had to say 60% spike.  Almost as if they are trying to instill fear into the general public? Nahhhh  



I am assuming they will see a significant spike in cases with the civil unrest in the midwest. 



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Posted By: YATYAS on August 27 2020 at 09:09:56 AM

So now that we are a day shy or so of the longest possible incubation period.  How many people that were at Knoxville for the long weekend actually contracted COVID-19?  I have heard about the BIG outbreak.  This week they reported a 60% increase in cases in Knoxville.  Went from 5 to 8.  They could have said only 3 new cases, but no, had to say 60% spike.  Almost as if they are trying to instill fear into the general public? Nahhhh  



Not sure where you're pulling city data from, but the Iowa COVID dashboard shows a steep increase starting 8/11 and spiking over the next 10-12 days.

Taken from coronavirus.iowa.gov for Marion County: 

 



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This message was edited on August 27, 2020 at 10:33:35 AM by YATYAS

I said Knoxville, you are showing Marion county.   I pulled my information from KNIA/KRLS.  Not trying to argue, just saying the news can be misleading.  That is all. 

 




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Posted By: YATYAS on August 27 2020 at 10:31:07 AM

I said Knoxville, you are showing Marion county.   I pulled my information from KNIA/KRLS.  Not trying to argue, just saying the news can be misleading.  That is all. 

 



Agreed - that's why I said I didn't know where you were pulling your data from. Also agree that media should not sensationalize but rather directly inform based on facts (ie: the data) but that's a whole different argument.

I think it's probably safe to say the influx of people upon Knoxville for 360 Nationals/One and Only was likely a catalyst for the bump, especially when you view within context - multiple drivers, track workers (allegedly) and attendees have tested positive. 



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Posted By: SprintFan16 on August 27 2020 at 12:47:10 PM

Agreed - that's why I said I didn't know where you were pulling your data from. Also agree that media should not sensationalize but rather directly inform based on facts (ie: the data) but that's a whole different argument.

I think it's probably safe to say the influx of people upon Knoxville for 360 Nationals/One and Only was likely a catalyst for the bump, especially when you view within context - multiple drivers, track workers (allegedly) and attendees have tested positive. 



I don't know how anyone with common sense cannot see as plain as day that Knoxville Raceway was the sole reason for the spike in cases.  And, I'm not being critical of anyone------I went to the race!



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Posted By: egras on August 27 2020 at 02:32:09 PM

I don't know how anyone with common sense cannot see as plain as day that Knoxville Raceway was the sole reason for the spike in cases.  And, I'm not being critical of anyone------I went to the race!



Saw something(somewhere) that the cases are increasing but the % of fatalities is declining.  Is that true anyone know?  Altho I guess if we are all getting info from news etc who knows what is correct data?  Man I miss the days of a couple hours of news a day




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Posted By: MandGRacing96 on August 27 2020 at 02:44:41 PM

Saw something(somewhere) that the cases are increasing but the % of fatalities is declining.  Is that true anyone know?  Altho I guess if we are all getting info from news etc who knows what is correct data?  Man I miss the days of a couple hours of news a day



There is no concrete evidence that the fatality rate is decreasing, but common sense tells us it is.  Also, a family friend of ours who is a doctor says they are seeing evidence that the current virus is less deadly than the start of the pandemic----it is mutating into a less deadly form.  He said that could change with the seasons if it follows patterns of other virus outbreaks.  He's optimistic it has already been as bad as it's going to be.  In the early days, it is easy to divide fatalities by cases, but the early numbers are so much worse due to lack of testing/reporting, who knows?  

I still feel very confident we will have a "normal" summer of racing in 2021



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August 27, 2020 at 07:39:47 PM
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Posted By: MandGRacing96 on August 27 2020 at 02:44:41 PM

Saw something(somewhere) that the cases are increasing but the % of fatalities is declining.  Is that true anyone know?  Altho I guess if we are all getting info from news etc who knows what is correct data?  Man I miss the days of a couple hours of news a day



You have asked in the right place. This forum is loaded with experts. It should be better than your news as it comes from the internet.



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Posted By: Points on August 27 2020 at 07:39:47 PM

You have asked in the right place. This forum is loaded with experts. It should be better than your news as it comes from the internet.



Well, I know facts are painful...But there are still 1,200 people dying every day. We've had the equivelent of 3 Vietnam wars in 6 months, nice hoax.


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Posted By: Hawker on August 27 2020 at 07:55:55 PM

Well, I know facts are painful...But there are still 1,200 people dying every day. We've had the equivelent of 3 Vietnam wars in 6 months, nice hoax.



I am fine with facts. Guess what I was getting at is there is too much info here that is not. I am not in the hoax camp in case thats the impressiom I gave you.



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Posted By: egras on August 27 2020 at 05:53:35 PM

There is no concrete evidence that the fatality rate is decreasing, but common sense tells us it is.  Also, a family friend of ours who is a doctor says they are seeing evidence that the current virus is less deadly than the start of the pandemic----it is mutating into a less deadly form.  He said that could change with the seasons if it follows patterns of other virus outbreaks.  He's optimistic it has already been as bad as it's going to be.  In the early days, it is easy to divide fatalities by cases, but the early numbers are so much worse due to lack of testing/reporting, who knows?  

I still feel very confident we will have a "normal" summer of racing in 2021



I've seen a couple of articles where ER doctors in Italy have stated that the virus they are dealing with now is less deadly.  If anyone would know, I'd say it would be them.   I saw another recent article that quoted someone high up in the WHO as saying that the current strain that is dominant in the US is more contagious but less deadly.



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August 28, 2020 at 08:58:25 AM
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Posted By: egras on August 27 2020 at 05:53:35 PM

There is no concrete evidence that the fatality rate is decreasing, but common sense tells us it is.  Also, a family friend of ours who is a doctor says they are seeing evidence that the current virus is less deadly than the start of the pandemic----it is mutating into a less deadly form.  He said that could change with the seasons if it follows patterns of other virus outbreaks.  He's optimistic it has already been as bad as it's going to be.  In the early days, it is easy to divide fatalities by cases, but the early numbers are so much worse due to lack of testing/reporting, who knows?  

I still feel very confident we will have a "normal" summer of racing in 2021



In my part of the world, there is lots of evidence that deaths are decliing.  Cases are rising once again, but nothing like they were in the beginning.  What has changed about here is the age demographic where the spike in cases is showing up.  It is now 40 and under primarily that are testing positive.  Many asymptomatic, many (in my opinion) false positives.  They typically have much stronger immune systems and are healthier.  So even though they are testing positive, they are not getting sick, not being hospitalized, and not dying.  We currently have zero people hospitalized with COVID in the 4 hospitals in my county here, 52 in the 24 hospitals in the 13 county, 1.8 million people region of the state.  5 people out of 1.8 million are on ventilators that have tested positive.  Neither of the 2 sprint car drivers that are part of that 1.8 million have tested positive.


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tojo97905
August 28, 2020 at 02:17:11 PM
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Posted By: Hawker on August 27 2020 at 07:55:55 PM

Well, I know facts are painful...But there are still 1,200 people dying every day. We've had the equivelent of 3 Vietnam wars in 6 months, nice hoax.



Let's be fair Pat, if you are run over by a loaded train and test positive for Coronavirus, not necessarily Covid-19, you're a Covid death and the hospital gets $30k. The mortality / infection rate doesnt meet the CDC criteria for an epidemic but we're losing our minds. We should do like the POTUS did in 09 about H1N1 and tell states to stop testing....pretty simple.



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Posted By: tojo97905 on August 28 2020 at 02:17:11 PM

Let's be fair Pat, if you are run over by a loaded train and test positive for Coronavirus, not necessarily Covid-19, you're a Covid death and the hospital gets $30k. The mortality / infection rate doesnt meet the CDC criteria for an epidemic but we're losing our minds. We should do like the POTUS did in 09 about H1N1 and tell states to stop testing....pretty simple.



Not the first time I have seen the $30 claim...Also not the first time I have seen the claim made with no credible substantiation. But even if it was, does a hospital stand to turn more profit from a handfull of $30k COVID claims, or from the elective surgeries they are missing out on (remember, there is still a freeze)? Seems like stepping over dollars to pick up dimes to me. And H1N1? Really, you want to try to draw a comparison? That's like comparing apples to golfballs...

But I get it, you think it is a hoax with inflated numbers, when you buy into that, you have to carry that narrative to the grave (no pun intended). History will say otherwise.


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Posted By: tojo97905 on August 28 2020 at 02:17:11 PM

Let's be fair Pat, if you are run over by a loaded train and test positive for Coronavirus, not necessarily Covid-19, you're a Covid death and the hospital gets $30k. The mortality / infection rate doesnt meet the CDC criteria for an epidemic but we're losing our minds. We should do like the POTUS did in 09 about H1N1 and tell states to stop testing....pretty simple.



https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/13/facebook-posts/no-cdc-not-verge-no-longer-calling-covid-19-epidem/

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/trump-misleads-on-h1n1-swine-flu-testing/

Let's also be fair and try to make accurate statements instead of peddling actual fake news.




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Posted By: Hawker on August 28 2020 at 02:24:29 PM

Not the first time I have seen the $30 claim...Also not the first time I have seen the claim made with no credible substantiation. But even if it was, does a hospital stand to turn more profit from a handfull of $30k COVID claims, or from the elective surgeries they are missing out on (remember, there is still a freeze)? Seems like stepping over dollars to pick up dimes to me. And H1N1? Really, you want to try to draw a comparison? That's like comparing apples to golfballs...

But I get it, you think it is a hoax with inflated numbers, when you buy into that, you have to carry that narrative to the grave (no pun intended). History will say otherwise.



What exactly are we saying here?   Anyone who doubts the accuracy of the numbers by default thinks it's a hoax? 



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Guys let's keep this about sprint car racing, not politics - or the bug zapper will come back out. A few have already been zapped in this post. � 
 

Thanks and have a good racing weekend. 




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Posted By: Hawker on August 28 2020 at 02:24:29 PM

Not the first time I have seen the $30 claim...Also not the first time I have seen the claim made with no credible substantiation. But even if it was, does a hospital stand to turn more profit from a handfull of $30k COVID claims, or from the elective surgeries they are missing out on (remember, there is still a freeze)? Seems like stepping over dollars to pick up dimes to me. And H1N1? Really, you want to try to draw a comparison? That's like comparing apples to golfballs...

But I get it, you think it is a hoax with inflated numbers, when you buy into that, you have to carry that narrative to the grave (no pun intended). History will say otherwise.



Not saying it's a hoax, but I don't believe the death numbers as the mass media is reporting. H1N1, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Influenza A/B....take your pick. Theyre all airborne illnesses that were/are glossed over at best, even this latest flu season that was one of the worst one in recent years that killed an estimated 50,000 Americans. Where was the panic reporting over that, where were the mask mandates then, where was the political volleyball on who is to blame? The shutdown was supposed to eliminate hospitals from being overrun and after NY's dismal handling of cases which is documented btw, we haven't seen that issue anywhere else. And, I have first-hand knowledge from a nurse that spent 6 weeks in NYC of the absolute idiocy that went on there. Death rates have fallen in proportion to related illness versus Covid-19....just a coincidence? Unless I'm so out of touch, most elective surgeries aren't performed in a hospital are they? 



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Posted By: Hawker on August 28 2020 at 02:24:29 PM

Not the first time I have seen the $30 claim...Also not the first time I have seen the claim made with no credible substantiation. But even if it was, does a hospital stand to turn more profit from a handfull of $30k COVID claims, or from the elective surgeries they are missing out on (remember, there is still a freeze)? Seems like stepping over dollars to pick up dimes to me. And H1N1? Really, you want to try to draw a comparison? That's like comparing apples to golfballs...

But I get it, you think it is a hoax with inflated numbers, when you buy into that, you have to carry that narrative to the grave (no pun intended). History will say otherwise.



And you can't say "profiting from a handful of cases" and then try to convince me this is the plague.





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