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egras
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These are the important questions folks need to be asking themselves:

1. Why can you go to Walmart but not Kohl's?

2. Why the Dollar store and not a mom-and-pop shop?

3. Why can't you have an elective surgery, but you can have an abortion which is elective?

4. Why should you stay inside but yet heat and sunlight kill the virus?

5. Why can't kids (who are not at risk) play on an outdoor playground, where sun kills this virus?

6. Why don't people know that these are "recommendations" not laws because they have not gone through due process?

7. Why is it okay for government officials to get a haircut, but not common citizens?

8. Why the fear, when this virus has a less than 1% death rate?

8.5 Why have coroners questioned death certificates listed as CV-19?

9. Why are areas like Chicago and NY gearing up for mass va*cc*ination?

10. What makes one person essential and another not?

11. Doesn't shelter at home mean there is a whole population of people not staying home so we can?

12. Why are they dividing us?

13. How do people not know that we are a Republic, not a democracy?

14. Where has the flu gone?

15. Why do the homeless consistently demonstrate the lowest infection rates?

16. Why are they telling us to mask up after 2 months of lockdown?

17. Why is the CDC saying kids need to be masked when they return to school or attend church, when they know cloth masks restrict oxygen?

18. What is this oppression and loss of liberty doing to the mental health of our kids...to us?

19. Why have most other death rates dropped since the virus?

20. Why did world leaders meet in China in October 2019?

21. Why are the common people being controlled by the government and no one is controlling the government?

22. Why are hospitals paid more for Covid 19 deaths?

23. Why are some doctors speaking out and then getting silenced?

24. Why did Obama give the Wuhan lab $334 million dollars?

25. What does a computer geek have to do with a pandemic and why does he want 7 billion corona virus v*ccines?

26. Why ID 2020, Agenda 21 and 2030?

27. Why did the CDC have a job posting for pandemic relief workers in November 2019?

28. Why did Dr. Fauci say in 2017 that the Trump administration would be faced with a “SURPRISE PANDEMIC" and then runs the pandemic team?

29. Why are they infringing on Christians’ religious freedoms?

30. Why can 500 people shop at Fred Meyer or Home Depot, but we are not allowed to go into a church building?

I don't care if you are Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or vote for unicorns. If you're not asking these questions, you should be.



I know you copied and pasted this, because I saw it on Facebook already.  Some questions are valid.  Some only take a little thought and research to answer.  I know everyone is up for a good conspiracy, but most can be answered with common sense.  

 

1-3, good question.  I don't agree with.

4.  I don't think any state has ruled you have to stay inside.  You are allowed to go outside.

5.  Sunlight alone does not kill the virus.  And if you open playgrounds, there will be kids in each other's faces.  Not saying I agree they should be off limits---just arguing the logic

6.  This is a fuzzy issue when it comes to emergency declarations.  I would not bet on the fact you will not be ticketed, arrested, and/or fined

7.  Agree

8.  The fear isn't the death RATE or hospitalization RATE, it's the fear of the numbers of deaths and hospitalizations.  Flu will only infect around 12-15% of the population annually.  This is going to infect 50-75%.  So, even with identical RATES, the death and hospitalization totals would be 4-5 times higher if left to play out over a short period of time.  The death rate is really not the issue most scientists are as worried about at this point.  It's spreading out how fast it spreads.  The only way to make this the exact same as the flu, would be to spread it out over 4-6 years----and, that's not going to happen.  

9.  Because lots of people live there?  I don't understand why this is a question

10. Stupid government logic.  Most of the essential/non-essential does not make sense to me and I agree this is cloudy and stupid

11-13---depends on perspective

14.  Flu typically ends after spike in late-winter to early-spring.  If you cut off the means by which covid is spread, you also cut off the means by which flu is spread.  This should be an easy concept to follow

15.  Most homeless do not attend bars, night-clubs, restaurants, work, sporting events----this is not difficult to understand

16.  Simple answer-----they knew it would go over like a lead balloon.  Every country in the world that had already been fighting this said we would never get out of it quickly without masks.  Here we are.  Late to the party as usual.  

17.  Dumb statement.  Masks are worn in many industries every day and no one dies from lack of oxygen

18.  Less than it did to your parents and grandparents back when polio, smallpox, World War 1 and 2, tuberculosis, the Spanish Flu----etc, etc, etc.  This will be a relatively small price to pay compared to those others I've listed that previous generations have been through.  I know we're all precious and fragile now, but we'll make it.

19.  Car accidents---less people on the road.  Flu deaths----less flu spreading from mitigation.  Work accidents---less people working. Etc, etc, etc.   This isn't hard to figure out. 

20.  Because world leaders meet on a regular basis.  

21.  We do control the government.  We elect them every 2-4 years.  

22.  Because COVID has taken the other types of procedures and treatments off the table by orders of the states.  Therefore, to assure hospitals would operate as needed to get through this, extra funds are provided to fight this outbreak and offset that lost revenue.  Because we seem to be so much in favor of private health care, they are businesses now that must show a profit or close down.  

23.  Silenced by whom?  Doctors have the right to talk to whatever media source they wish.  Please provide an example.  I've seen doctors with all different perspectives from one end of the spectrum to the other.  I've not seen, nor heard of one doctor imprisoned or muzzled for giving their scientific opinion.  

24.  Obama didn't give any of his money away that I am aware of.  I am assuming you mean our country funded a research lab through government dollars and it was during his administration?  Nothing new.  Our government sends your tax dollars to other countries all of the time.  In this case, it's likely due to China being the hot spot for new pandemic outbreaks.  Some day, we will likely see a bird flu H5N1 outbreak from there and it will make the Covid virus look like the sniffles.  God help us all after seeing how society reacted to this one.

25.  Don't know.  Don't care.  I do know at this point I would like to see enough vaccine so anyone who wants it, can get it, and we can be done with this crap.  Then, everyone can pick the next big topic in 5-10 years to claim conspiracies about.  You're not going to hear my opinion nationally though as I am only a blue-collar shmuck.  You will, however, hear the opinion of celebrities and billionaires.  

26.  This is a pile of garbage.  If you Google Agenda 21, 2030, you will get a propaganda produced outline of this agenda.  This has been around since the mid-90's and is nothing more than how nations can work together to beat poverty and hunger while improving the environment.  I've heard this nonsense for 25 years and that's all it is---nonsense.  Remember the reflective stickers on the back of road signs and how they were guides for UN troops?  That was back 20 years ago.  The Swine Flu vaccine was going to be a tracer for the UN that Obama was administering to all of us.  That was 11 years ago.  Bunch of fanatics and garbage.  

27.  Because pandemics have been happening since the beginning of time and as recently as last year scientists have been warning us we are grossly under-prepared for a pandemic again-----and they nailed it!!!!  Look up list of past pandemics----you will be amazed at how we have curtailed the numbers through technology, vaccines, and science in recent decades.  We were WAY overdue for a bad one---just as they warned us.

28.  Can't confirm this was said, but I've been telling my family for years there's going to be one.  I thought it would be bird flu or MERS though.  I'll make a mind-blowing prediction---sometime in the next 2-20 years, there's going to be another one.  Will you question my involvment with the country where the next one originates?  

29.  Not infringing on their freedoms.  They can worship any God they wish and most states will allow them to do wo with others in limited sized groups.  Then, when this is all over, they can once again congregate as they were.  Pretty weak attempt to end Christianity if that is the point

30.  I don't believe most stores are allowing more than 1 or 2 people per household and most have a number limit to customers at one time to keep people spread out.  Church services typically have people shoulder to shoulder, in rows 3 ft. apart.  This does not follow the recommendations laid out by health depts.  Why would we think this is okay?  

 



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Posted By: egras on May 04 2020 at 01:41:05 PM

I know you copied and pasted this, because I saw it on Facebook already.  Some questions are valid.  Some only take a little thought and research to answer.  I know everyone is up for a good conspiracy, but most can be answered with common sense.  

 

1-3, good question.  I don't agree with.

4.  I don't think any state has ruled you have to stay inside.  You are allowed to go outside.

5.  Sunlight alone does not kill the virus.  And if you open playgrounds, there will be kids in each other's faces.  Not saying I agree they should be off limits---just arguing the logic

6.  This is a fuzzy issue when it comes to emergency declarations.  I would not bet on the fact you will not be ticketed, arrested, and/or fined

7.  Agree

8.  The fear isn't the death RATE or hospitalization RATE, it's the fear of the numbers of deaths and hospitalizations.  Flu will only infect around 12-15% of the population annually.  This is going to infect 50-75%.  So, even with identical RATES, the death and hospitalization totals would be 4-5 times higher if left to play out over a short period of time.  The death rate is really not the issue most scientists are as worried about at this point.  It's spreading out how fast it spreads.  The only way to make this the exact same as the flu, would be to spread it out over 4-6 years----and, that's not going to happen.  

9.  Because lots of people live there?  I don't understand why this is a question

10. Stupid government logic.  Most of the essential/non-essential does not make sense to me and I agree this is cloudy and stupid

11-13---depends on perspective

14.  Flu typically ends after spike in late-winter to early-spring.  If you cut off the means by which covid is spread, you also cut off the means by which flu is spread.  This should be an easy concept to follow

15.  Most homeless do not attend bars, night-clubs, restaurants, work, sporting events----this is not difficult to understand

16.  Simple answer-----they knew it would go over like a lead balloon.  Every country in the world that had already been fighting this said we would never get out of it quickly without masks.  Here we are.  Late to the party as usual.  

17.  Dumb statement.  Masks are worn in many industries every day and no one dies from lack of oxygen

18.  Less than it did to your parents and grandparents back when polio, smallpox, World War 1 and 2, tuberculosis, the Spanish Flu----etc, etc, etc.  This will be a relatively small price to pay compared to those others I've listed that previous generations have been through.  I know we're all precious and fragile now, but we'll make it.

19.  Car accidents---less people on the road.  Flu deaths----less flu spreading from mitigation.  Work accidents---less people working. Etc, etc, etc.   This isn't hard to figure out. 

20.  Because world leaders meet on a regular basis.  

21.  We do control the government.  We elect them every 2-4 years.  

22.  Because COVID has taken the other types of procedures and treatments off the table by orders of the states.  Therefore, to assure hospitals would operate as needed to get through this, extra funds are provided to fight this outbreak and offset that lost revenue.  Because we seem to be so much in favor of private health care, they are businesses now that must show a profit or close down.  

23.  Silenced by whom?  Doctors have the right to talk to whatever media source they wish.  Please provide an example.  I've seen doctors with all different perspectives from one end of the spectrum to the other.  I've not seen, nor heard of one doctor imprisoned or muzzled for giving their scientific opinion.  

24.  Obama didn't give any of his money away that I am aware of.  I am assuming you mean our country funded a research lab through government dollars and it was during his administration?  Nothing new.  Our government sends your tax dollars to other countries all of the time.  In this case, it's likely due to China being the hot spot for new pandemic outbreaks.  Some day, we will likely see a bird flu H5N1 outbreak from there and it will make the Covid virus look like the sniffles.  God help us all after seeing how society reacted to this one.

25.  Don't know.  Don't care.  I do know at this point I would like to see enough vaccine so anyone who wants it, can get it, and we can be done with this crap.  Then, everyone can pick the next big topic in 5-10 years to claim conspiracies about.  You're not going to hear my opinion nationally though as I am only a blue-collar shmuck.  You will, however, hear the opinion of celebrities and billionaires.  

26.  This is a pile of garbage.  If you Google Agenda 21, 2030, you will get a propaganda produced outline of this agenda.  This has been around since the mid-90's and is nothing more than how nations can work together to beat poverty and hunger while improving the environment.  I've heard this nonsense for 25 years and that's all it is---nonsense.  Remember the reflective stickers on the back of road signs and how they were guides for UN troops?  That was back 20 years ago.  The Swine Flu vaccine was going to be a tracer for the UN that Obama was administering to all of us.  That was 11 years ago.  Bunch of fanatics and garbage.  

27.  Because pandemics have been happening since the beginning of time and as recently as last year scientists have been warning us we are grossly under-prepared for a pandemic again-----and they nailed it!!!!  Look up list of past pandemics----you will be amazed at how we have curtailed the numbers through technology, vaccines, and science in recent decades.  We were WAY overdue for a bad one---just as they warned us.

28.  Can't confirm this was said, but I've been telling my family for years there's going to be one.  I thought it would be bird flu or MERS though.  I'll make a mind-blowing prediction---sometime in the next 2-20 years, there's going to be another one.  Will you question my involvment with the country where the next one originates?  

29.  Not infringing on their freedoms.  They can worship any God they wish and most states will allow them to do wo with others in limited sized groups.  Then, when this is all over, they can once again congregate as they were.  Pretty weak attempt to end Christianity if that is the point

30.  I don't believe most stores are allowing more than 1 or 2 people per household and most have a number limit to customers at one time to keep people spread out.  Church services typically have people shoulder to shoulder, in rows 3 ft. apart.  This does not follow the recommendations laid out by health depts.  Why would we think this is okay?  

 



Yes, I did, but they are very valid questions.  I don't care where they came from, I agree with these questions.  We need to start having discussions again. 

A lot of common sense stuff.  But then again common sense is very common anymore.

I think we should answer these questions and then have all our government officals answer each and everyone of these questions that pertain to them.  I really like watching them squirm when they know they are lying to we the people.

 If you try to post something on facebook or twitter that does not line up with the cdc or the WHO it will be taken down.

 


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egras
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Yes, I did, but they are very valid questions.  I don't care where they came from, I agree with these questions.  We need to start having discussions again. 

A lot of common sense stuff.  But then again common sense is very common anymore.

I think we should answer these questions and then have all our government officals answer each and everyone of these questions that pertain to them.  I really like watching them squirm when they know they are lying to we the people.

 If you try to post something on facebook or twitter that does not line up with the cdc or the WHO it will be taken down.

 



Agree some of the questions are valid.   Most are not real hard to answer though and put conspiracy to bed real quick.  For example, the can't go outside question?  Not one state has a "you cannot go outside" order.  Not one.  Can't practice your religion?  Not one state has made it illegal to practice your religion.  Not one.  Some of these questions twist the words and just prey on simple-minded people who can't make a solid, objective thought nor will take the time research a subject. 

How about the CDC hiring in November?  So, let me get this straight.  We are going to produce a pandemic to reign mass hysteria and terror on the world------but we are going to hire people to try to stop it?  Why wouldn't you wait until after the pandemic got going to address this if your main goal was mass hysteria and terror?  

Not on this list of questions, but I have also heard China unleashed this intentionally in Wuhan.  So, let me get this straight.  We are going to unleash a virus on the world, and we'll start in our own country?  Who would do this?  Would you not put a small vile in your pocket, hop on a plane, land in New York, and unleash it there?  Why start in your own backyard?  

 

 

As far as posts being removed on Facebook or Twitter, someone tried to tell me this was a violation of their freedom of speech.  Once again, this goes back to the Kyle Larson freedom of speech argument.  Facebook and Twitter are businesses.  It is impossible for them to violate your freedom of speech.  When you sign up for a Facebook or Twitter account, there is a "agree to terms........" box you check.  If you read through that, it says they have the right to remove material they deem inappropriate.  This has NOTHING to do with government or freedom of speech.  Using their platform is a privilege and not a right.  




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She said it you can't handle the truth. Joe is the biggest liar of them all.  At least Trump got  lot of things accomplished that he promised during his campaign.  See his record against any of the 4 previous presidents.  Hands down the best of that lot. Stuff that actually helped the American worker instead of hindering them.

Here is the proof.  It is close to the end of the video.  

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/28/hillary_clinton_this_would_be_a_terrible_crisis_to_waste_to_not_push_for_universal_healthcare.html



OK, she said it. taken out of context, it doesn't sound good, but her point is that we can learn from mistakes & hard times. The Depression brought us Unemployment Insurance, Social Security, & Federal Deposit insurance on our bank accounts, etc.

I don't like HIllary but she's right on this

 



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These are the important questions folks need to be asking themselves:

1. Why can you go to Walmart but not Kohl's?

2. Why the Dollar store and not a mom-and-pop shop?

3. Why can't you have an elective surgery, but you can have an abortion which is elective?

4. Why should you stay inside but yet heat and sunlight kill the virus?

5. Why can't kids (who are not at risk) play on an outdoor playground, where sun kills this virus?

6. Why don't people know that these are "recommendations" not laws because they have not gone through due process?

7. Why is it okay for government officials to get a haircut, but not common citizens?

8. Why the fear, when this virus has a less than 1% death rate?

8.5 Why have coroners questioned death certificates listed as CV-19?

9. Why are areas like Chicago and NY gearing up for mass va*cc*ination?

10. What makes one person essential and another not?

11. Doesn't shelter at home mean there is a whole population of people not staying home so we can?

12. Why are they dividing us?

13. How do people not know that we are a Republic, not a democracy?

14. Where has the flu gone?

15. Why do the homeless consistently demonstrate the lowest infection rates?

16. Why are they telling us to mask up after 2 months of lockdown?

17. Why is the CDC saying kids need to be masked when they return to school or attend church, when they know cloth masks restrict oxygen?

18. What is this oppression and loss of liberty doing to the mental health of our kids...to us?

19. Why have most other death rates dropped since the virus?

20. Why did world leaders meet in China in October 2019?

21. Why are the common people being controlled by the government and no one is controlling the government?

22. Why are hospitals paid more for Covid 19 deaths?

23. Why are some doctors speaking out and then getting silenced?

24. Why did Obama give the Wuhan lab $334 million dollars?

25. What does a computer geek have to do with a pandemic and why does he want 7 billion corona virus v*ccines?

26. Why ID 2020, Agenda 21 and 2030?

27. Why did the CDC have a job posting for pandemic relief workers in November 2019?

28. Why did Dr. Fauci say in 2017 that the Trump administration would be faced with a “SURPRISE PANDEMIC" and then runs the pandemic team?

29. Why are they infringing on Christians’ religious freedoms?

30. Why can 500 people shop at Fred Meyer or Home Depot, but we are not allowed to go into a church building?

I don't care if you are Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or vote for unicorns. If you're not asking these questions, you should be.



31. Why don't you shut up about politics & go back to whining about Port Royal?

This is a SPRINT CAR website

I don't have time to go thru every point, especially since plenty of them are based on false premises, but on 29... Christians' freedoms are in NO WAY being infringed upon. The Constitution prevents them from IMPOSING THEIR RELIGION ON OTHERS



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OK, she said it. taken out of context, it doesn't sound good, but her point is that we can learn from mistakes & hard times. The Depression brought us Unemployment Insurance, Social Security, & Federal Deposit insurance on our bank accounts, etc.

I don't like HIllary but she's right on this

 



No Hillary is WRONG!   Nothing taken out of context.  She is a horrible person.  Always was and always will be.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


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31. Why don't you shut up about politics & go back to whining about Port Royal?

This is a SPRINT CAR website

I don't have time to go thru every point, especially since plenty of them are based on false premises, but on 29... Christians' freedoms are in NO WAY being infringed upon. The Constitution prevents them from IMPOSING THEIR RELIGION ON OTHERS



We will have to disagree on the freedom of religion.  They are taking our civil liberties away!  Sorry to disappoint you!


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

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Agree some of the questions are valid.   Most are not real hard to answer though and put conspiracy to bed real quick.  For example, the can't go outside question?  Not one state has a "you cannot go outside" order.  Not one.  Can't practice your religion?  Not one state has made it illegal to practice your religion.  Not one.  Some of these questions twist the words and just prey on simple-minded people who can't make a solid, objective thought nor will take the time research a subject. 

How about the CDC hiring in November?  So, let me get this straight.  We are going to produce a pandemic to reign mass hysteria and terror on the world------but we are going to hire people to try to stop it?  Why wouldn't you wait until after the pandemic got going to address this if your main goal was mass hysteria and terror?  

Not on this list of questions, but I have also heard China unleashed this intentionally in Wuhan.  So, let me get this straight.  We are going to unleash a virus on the world, and we'll start in our own country?  Who would do this?  Would you not put a small vile in your pocket, hop on a plane, land in New York, and unleash it there?  Why start in your own backyard?  

 

 

As far as posts being removed on Facebook or Twitter, someone tried to tell me this was a violation of their freedom of speech.  Once again, this goes back to the Kyle Larson freedom of speech argument.  Facebook and Twitter are businesses.  It is impossible for them to violate your freedom of speech.  When you sign up for a Facebook or Twitter account, there is a "agree to terms........" box you check.  If you read through that, it says they have the right to remove material they deem inappropriate.  This has NOTHING to do with government or freedom of speech.  Using their platform is a privilege and not a right.  



There is a difference in doctors having their vidoes removed for speaking the truth.  Than what Kyle said....I am surprised you can't figure that out.

They want you to stay inside.  They always said stay quarteened until this is over.   Well we will have to disagree on this one. They took all outdoor activities away from us.  They just now opened up the golf courses.  Our Governor is worthless here in PA.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

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No Hillary is WRONG!   Nothing taken out of context.  She is a horrible person.  Always was and always will be.



Thats your opinion & you're a moron




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Thats your opinion & you're a moron



Nope only speaking the truth.


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No Hillary is WRONG!   Nothing taken out of context.  She is a horrible person.  Always was and always will be.



Thats your opinion 

Guess what... she's not running for anything so your comment is totally irrelevant



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We will have to disagree on the freedom of religion.  They are taking our civil liberties away!  Sorry to disappoint you!



Give me one example of how anyone has been persecuted for their religious beliefs.   I realize large gatherings have been banned.  However, most states are allowing small groups to gather and worship at church.  Therefore, the right to your free religion has not been taken.  Just the right----temporarily----to gather in large groups to worship.  

Give me one example of freedom of speech that has been violated?  You can give me all of the examples you wish, but not one of them will be an actual example of what freedom of speech actually is----unless you surprise me.  

I hate to dissapoint you, but if you do some research you will find that this is not the first time in the history of the United States these types of restrictions have been put in place for a disease outbreak.  Do a little digging.  They all complained about the same things---until it was all over, and things returned to normal.  

 

The following are all going to happen within the next 12-18 months:

1.  We are going to hold a free, democratic election

2.  We are all going to be able to attend our churches in the masses

3.  Sporting events will all open back up to spectators

4.  You will be able to go to the store, restaurant or bar without a mask

 

When these things do happen---and they will----will you then concede that there is no mass conspiracy to control the world?  Will you then be able to see it is nothing more than the authorities following the advice and expertise of health officials, doctors and scientists?  Or, will you move on to the next conspiracy?

 

 

 




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We will have to disagree on the freedom of religion.  They are taking our civil liberties away!  Sorry to disappoint you!



Give me one example....

Then SHUT UP ABOUT POLITICS!



revjimk
May 04, 2020 at 06:01:33 PM
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Posted By: egras on May 04 2020 at 05:56:52 PM

Give me one example of how anyone has been persecuted for their religious beliefs.   I realize large gatherings have been banned.  However, most states are allowing small groups to gather and worship at church.  Therefore, the right to your free religion has not been taken.  Just the right----temporarily----to gather in large groups to worship.  

Give me one example of freedom of speech that has been violated?  You can give me all of the examples you wish, but not one of them will be an actual example of what freedom of speech actually is----unless you surprise me.  

I hate to dissapoint you, but if you do some research you will find that this is not the first time in the history of the United States these types of restrictions have been put in place for a disease outbreak.  Do a little digging.  They all complained about the same things---until it was all over, and things returned to normal.  

 

The following are all going to happen within the next 12-18 months:

1.  We are going to hold a free, democratic election

2.  We are all going to be able to attend our churches in the masses

3.  Sporting events will all open back up to spectators

4.  You will be able to go to the store, restaurant or bar without a mask

 

When these things do happen---and they will----will you then concede that there is no mass conspiracy to control the world?  Will you then be able to see it is nothing more than the authorities following the advice and expertise of health officials, doctors and scientists?  Or, will you move on to the next conspiracy?

 

 

 



"1.  We are going to hold a free, democratic election"

I sure hope so. But I suspect Strawser's Lord & Master will do his best to prevent it...



BStrawser26
May 04, 2020 at 06:09:14 PM
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Posted By: egras on May 04 2020 at 05:56:52 PM

Give me one example of how anyone has been persecuted for their religious beliefs.   I realize large gatherings have been banned.  However, most states are allowing small groups to gather and worship at church.  Therefore, the right to your free religion has not been taken.  Just the right----temporarily----to gather in large groups to worship.  

Give me one example of freedom of speech that has been violated?  You can give me all of the examples you wish, but not one of them will be an actual example of what freedom of speech actually is----unless you surprise me.  

I hate to dissapoint you, but if you do some research you will find that this is not the first time in the history of the United States these types of restrictions have been put in place for a disease outbreak.  Do a little digging.  They all complained about the same things---until it was all over, and things returned to normal.  

 

The following are all going to happen within the next 12-18 months:

1.  We are going to hold a free, democratic election

2.  We are all going to be able to attend our churches in the masses

3.  Sporting events will all open back up to spectators

4.  You will be able to go to the store, restaurant or bar without a mask

 

When these things do happen---and they will----will you then concede that there is no mass conspiracy to control the world?  Will you then be able to see it is nothing more than the authorities following the advice and expertise of health officials, doctors and scientists?  Or, will you move on to the next conspiracy?

 

 

 



They should have allowed Churches to have multiple services instead of telling them they can't meet in person. There are ways to social distance and still be able to meet.  We do it everyday at work.  They will never go back to the way they were.  The government should be ashamed of themselves.  This is the next thing to tynary.  

The doctors in California video has been taken down multiple times.  People I know have had lost removed because they didn't agree with the cdc or the who.  Fauci should be FIRED and no this is not an opinion..that is a fact.

I have been researching this since this all started.   Bottom line Government over reach. These are not conspiracies they need to answer these questions.  We all do.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


BStrawser26
May 04, 2020 at 06:10:05 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on May 04 2020 at 05:55:45 PM

Thats your opinion & you're a moron



No that is the truth not an opinion.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BStrawser26
May 04, 2020 at 06:12:06 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on May 04 2020 at 06:01:33 PM

"1.  We are going to hold a free, democratic election"

I sure hope so. But I suspect Strawser's Lord & Master will do his best to prevent it...



Nope freedom to vote.  I will be voting in person...not this mail in crap.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BStrawser26
May 04, 2020 at 06:17:14 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on May 04 2020 at 05:56:42 PM

Thats your opinion 

Guess what... she's not running for anything so your comment is totally irrelevant



She wouldn't win anyway.  Because people see she is a phony!


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


revjimk
May 05, 2020 at 12:49:47 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on May 04 2020 at 06:09:14 PM

They should have allowed Churches to have multiple services instead of telling them they can't meet in person. There are ways to social distance and still be able to meet.  We do it everyday at work.  They will never go back to the way they were.  The government should be ashamed of themselves.  This is the next thing to tynary.  

The doctors in California video has been taken down multiple times.  People I know have had lost removed because they didn't agree with the cdc or the who.  Fauci should be FIRED and no this is not an opinion..that is a fact.

I have been researching this since this all started.   Bottom line Government over reach. These are not conspiracies they need to answer these questions.  We all do.



Those  rules apply to ALL churches, mosques & synagogues, (as well as concerts, sprint car rcaes etc, etc. Christians are NOT being discrimainated against.

 



longtimefan
May 05, 2020 at 02:16:58 AM
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This message was edited on May 05, 2020 at 02:18:50 AM by longtimefan
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Posted By: revjimk on May 04 2020 at 06:01:33 PM

"1.  We are going to hold a free, democratic election"

I sure hope so. But I suspect Strawser's Lord & Master will do his best to prevent it...



Now you have proven yourself to be no different than you accuse Strawser of being.  Just on the other side of the fence.





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