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When I said "gaining some traction" I meant that by the $600,000 that was apparently paid by Rudeen, BRM, and Roth. The fact anyone is legitimately entering is cool. Maybe theyre just banking on the event not happening and pocketing the $5k Chuck has promised.

I haven't exactly followed whats gone on in recent years with Husets/Badlands so maybe my optimism is uncalled for and I am overlooking Chuck's history. BUT IF the event does happen it will be must see for every dirt racing fan in the country. The fact Pittman is being advertised as an entry tells me WoO is somewhat coorporating. Not saying theyre gonna run and promote the event like Chuck claimed, but appears WoO have given permission to race.

I keep thinking about a ticket price IF this thing were to happen. If I am gambling, I am gonna say it doesnt happen. But lets consider the more fun what if it does happen.  Good points made earlier by SprintFan16...I love when people use numbers and run some variables and things most forget about.  My thought is: for ticket prices CB would very much want to fill the stands.  For a dumb guy about racing and promotion (as well as slew of other things) he is no dummy when it comes to knowing where his bread would be buttered, and that is on beer sales. His obstacle would be that he is trying to run a huge event on a day of the week and not a weekend. That will cut into concession/beer sales.  So to make up for it he will charge for parking.  Now if it was me, I would park in the school lot, on the streets, or shuttle in from some place in Brandon.  An enterprising young individual with a bus could certainly make a few bucks running a shuttle to the track. (Think a place like Bethany Meadows retirement community, that has a bus, and is a non profit. THey should be thinking about raising some money this way)

Back to ticket prices.  If CB wants people in the stands, the price has to be in line with what a person would pay to see a decent WoO show.  Simply put, the race would be awesome and historic, but in the end, I for one could easily miss it and just be happy knowing that dbag is out of ownership of the track.

Another quick thing. Every team entering has to have had some very smart people and legal teams look over the contract.  Therefore I trust Chuck on the contract and how it is all to go down.  However, I dont trust his ability to pull the race off or his hot air about how many people are interested (yet). Show me 10-12 teams and names and I will start to believe.  

Also, Yes...you NEED a support class.  Just cant have a track and this type of race without one. 

First off my opinion is zero chance of this happenning. But if so what fans are going to come. Your locals probably aren't going to pony up the high ticket and parking price. Maybe a few but most are likely used to weekly programs and prices not special events.

Your biggest target crowd just spent one or two weeks at Knoxville using up there racing budget and vacation time. And that vacation for most was set last year.

Me  I am six hours away. I may be able to get a day off and do a red eye drive home after figuring not much too run it should be done early. But not sure I would want the expense and long travel for three heats and a feature.

Now that I think about this might be just right for those that are always complaining about support classes and how late the shows run. Thsi could be over in an hour. two tops

Personally, I hope this happens. I grew up going to Huset's every Sunday up until about 4 years ago when I moved out of state. Nothing would make me happier than seeing the place open and back to business.

Regarding the support classes. Huset's can either be dry/rubber down or extremely narrow and heavy. A support class or two would help work the track in so that it's racy with multiple grooves. 18 cars on a heavy track with no extra cars might be a one lane frieght train. Nobody with $200,000 on the line would want anything less than the best possible track to run on. Obviously weather conditions can make this part somewhat difficult.

For the folks talking about this that haven't been to the area, I lived in Sioux Falls back the early 90's. There were no less than 4 or 5 places to watch sprint cars within 100 miles of Sioux Falls back then. Rock Rapids, Iowa on Friday, Madison, Hartford or the bigger place in Iowa on Saturday and Huset's on Sunday. Those options have now dwindled down to two (Jackson (Fridays) and Hartford (Saturdays). I went to the Jackson Nats a couple weeks ago and parking lot had plenty of South Dakota plates which leads me to believe the fans are still there but the race tracks are not. Hartford is not exactly world class but they're fighting the weather to get it going again. Why? Because folks in that area are starved for racing.  

The guy that owns the speedway now has a bad reputation that appears to be deserved. I believe the local crowd might be so pissed at CB that some will stay away even if if the tickets are reasonable, he can't move the track to another location, he can only move himself. He messed up a good thing and there's no going back. I also believe the local money knows he has to make something happen to get some of his money back out of the facility. The longer it sits, the less it's worth. 

My opinion is that he has missed his window of opportunity to stage a show in conjunction with the Knoxville Nationals this year, he doesn't get the fan angle, we work, we plan our vacations in advance, we play then we go back to work. 

I bought my nationals tickets in December, I blocked in a Sunday night in Sioux Falls hoping the track would be owned by someone else by now. Didn't happen and frankly I don't want to give this dude my hard-earned money so I'll head home on Sunday instead.  

But that's just my opinion as a old guy that grew up watching this sport in the area.

Damn shame but karma's a bitch. 

joesgarage

All good points.  Also---------no one trusts the dipshit to actually make the show go.  So why in the hell would anyone make plans for this.  In my opinion, if this "zero chance" race goes off, the stands will be mostly empty.  I wouldn't even consider making plans to go see this race knowing it could get called off up to the day of the race.  Why would I think this?  The WoO show.  The 2018 schedule.  The auction.  Just to name a few things that were all set in stone and fell apart.  

Now, by chance this does actually happen----which, I agree with you, it likely won't-------would the WoO attempt to jump into this?  How about Dirtvision?  I would pay to watch a 3.6 million dollar to win race online.  

The best of the best would be there and it would also be the largest “to win” race ever if it happens. I think opinion people would come and the place would be far from empty.  

90 miles away.. if this happens I'll be there.  

Chuck wanted $95 per ticket to the last night of his rock & roll gold cup. Would not be surprised to see $100 tickets for this race if it happens. Also if it happens ill bet the winner takes the cash & leaves Chuck still owning the racetrack.

We will see.  I agree with an earlier poster------right after Knoxville.  Most who would attend this already spent their vacation and money.  

I would be more sure that the winner takes the cash than the race actually happens. I dont see any race teams wanting the track except maybe TSR cause he has staff in place who have the experience to do it right. If it was worth more than 3M maybe  a real estate flip but cash is pretty universal.

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" $600,000 that was apparently paid by Rudeen, BRM, and Roth".... key word here is "apparently"!!!!

Its not on Pittman/Roth schedule

Don't you guys realize that Chucky's motto is "there's a sucker born every minute"?

Pawn shop mogul... he's made his career taking advantage of desperate, hard up people....

This brings up an interesting point. 

Between all three teams, drivers, and crew chiefs, not one single mention of this race or retweet of Huset's Twitter's entry posts. In a day and age of activity/retweet everything for exposure, seems quite odd to me. 

Also, not on BRM website nor Rudeen Racing.

I wonder if the teams know they're entered??? 

I don't know how your courts work in the USA but I think anyone in Canada posting web pages saying a certain team has committed to attend without actually committing would be extremely dangerous as far a legalities etc. I chat imagine any of those 3 reals allowing their names and pictures to be posted on the Huset website without actually paying the registration. They must be legit entries. 

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I dont think 400k is chump change for those guys. If it was you'd think KKR would still have a 3rd car with Daryn in it. Even Smoke ain't gonna just up and throw around 400k. 10k is chump change. Not 400.

Hypothetical. What would happen, say that the race actually does happen but instead of taking possession of the track the winner decides to take the money? That would be the ultimate dagger to the heart for that area knowing that the impossible race did happen in order to sell the track but afterwords Chuck is still the owner.

Would that team/owner/driver become the most hated in the Sioux Falls/Brandon SD area? I don't know about you but if I'm a driver or owner taking $3.6million is a lot less headache than taking possession of the track, paying the taxes, putting together schedules, maintaining the track, employing people for the track, managing events, and then hoping that you make money. Granted I think that area can make money and overtime the owner would but are they willing to deal with the things that come with owning a track or just take the easy money?

Even Tony Stewart or Kasey Kahne or even Kyle Larson who some have said have the resources or the money to purchase the track may not want to deal with the headache. 1 more racetrack for Tony is just another thing you have to worry about on top of Nascar team, existing racetracks, sprint car teams, and race series. Although he does generally entrust others to run his business' that is another individual that you have to entrust. Kasey & Kyle have little ones that they have to worry about, race teams, families, etc.

It may not be a guarantee that at the end of this race if it actually happens that Husets changes ownership. Then what? Another period of time until Chuck comes up with another scheme.

I would think Tony has the personal to run it... He owns: 4 cup teams, TSR sprint car team(s), All Stars series, Eldora. Whats one more track? haha

I think he can find the personnel to run it as well. But adding 1 track is adding another stress, responsiblity, and obligation. In this case with possibly winning a tack for $200,000 or $400,00 depending on how many cars he would enter, would be a bargin in some respects. It might be just the thing to get him through his name and Schatz's into the cap because I am sure HE can make it work. I do however think some people overestimate Tony's ability & williness to just buy/operate other tracks. It seems that everytime a track is struggling, about to close, or close the first comment is always, "why doesn't Tony just buy it," followed by Kasey and Larson. The answer could be that they just don't want to.

Totally agree. I think many, many fans think these guys have more money than they actually do. Being a top notch facility that Husets is, makes me think Tony would be interested. Just like I believe he was interested in Mansfield. Guys like Larson and Kahne... no chance would they want to own/operate a track at their age or point in their career paths (IMO).

Something that a friend of mine had asked to which I do not know the answer to since either of us really know that area too well. Why were sprint cars chosen for this race? Granted a winged 410 sprint car race would be my favorite choice, but would a Late Model show also have worked, or is there not as many owners with that kind of money? Or is it not really Late Model country in that area so there wouldn't be that much interest from Late Model Teams to risk putting money on the line and running the track with a small amount of knowledge about the area?