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Parnelli1970
November 01, 2023 at 04:43:14 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on November 01 2023 at 11:27:09 AM

Lol....you are really confused.  Nothing new here.



Do you look at yourself in the mirror when you type your bullshit.



racingmoose
November 01, 2023 at 06:55:21 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on November 01 2023 at 08:33:00 AM

I don't have to....you already did.



Amazing how you twisted that around.  No wonder nobody seems to take you seriously.



BStrawser26
November 01, 2023 at 08:14:33 PM
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Posted By: racingmoose on November 01 2023 at 06:55:21 PM

Amazing how you twisted that around.  No wonder nobody seems to take you seriously.



Didn't twist it at all.  I didn't bring it up....you did!


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


revjimk
November 01, 2023 at 08:42:22 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on November 01 2023 at 08:31:30 AM

Sorry...not sorry you can't change facts and that is all I put on here.  



You just proved him right... in love with your own OPINIONS



BStrawser26
November 01, 2023 at 08:49:10 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on November 01 2023 at 08:42:22 PM

You just proved him right... in love with your own OPINIONS



Wow - you are the missguided one!


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Murphy
November 01, 2023 at 09:04:14 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on November 01 2023 at 08:49:10 PM

Wow - you are the missguided one!



I've started reading Strowser's posts in the voice of Pee Wee Herman. They're easier to put into context that way. Smile




BStrawser26
November 01, 2023 at 09:37:10 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on November 01 2023 at 09:04:14 PM

I've started reading Strowser's posts in the voice of Pee Wee Herman. They're easier to put into context that way. Smile



Blah...blah..blah said Murphy.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

Parnelli1970
November 01, 2023 at 09:49:36 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on November 01 2023 at 09:04:14 PM

I've started reading Strowser's posts in the voice of Pee Wee Herman. They're easier to put into context that way. Smile



It's like communicating with a 5 year old who throws a tantrum about not getting his chicken tenders.



revjimk
November 02, 2023 at 12:05:35 AM
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Posted By: Murphy on November 01 2023 at 09:04:14 PM

I've started reading Strowser's posts in the voice of Pee Wee Herman. They're easier to put into context that way. Smile



Strawser in the HH's bar?

Nah. Peewee dances better.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVKsd8z6scw




hardon
November 02, 2023 at 12:32:03 AM
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Posted By: Murphy on October 30 2023 at 05:53:06 PM

Any thoughts about what they weren't pleased with? 

I've always wondered why a simple rule that required a minimum tire hardness before and after a race wouldn't work.



Murphy, I almost always believe that a "free market" aproach means that everyone wins.  Since businesses need to be competetive with each other, typically better products with better prices will come out.  The one (or the only one I can think of right now) exception is racing tires.  This youtube video is a very interesting watch as to why it doesn't work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu5b8oYwiQM .  If you don't want to watch it, I'll try to remember the main bullet points.  Goodyear was purchased by some company and NASCAR was concerned that this company might not want to make racing tires anymore.  They asked Hoosier to get involved.  They allowed both Goodyear and Hoosier to provide tires at every race, I think the years were 88-89 and then again in 94.  But the one rule they had was BOTH manufacturers had to bring enough tires to every race for EVERYONE.  It was not just the people who had contracts to run their tires, EVERYONE.  As I'm sure everyone can see, this is a huge expense to bring semi truck loads of tires that might not get used at all.  Not sure how much they got into it but the "competition" started coming out, and both Goodyear and Hoosier were trying to make faster tires.  We all know what a faster tire means.  The thing I still remember about this video that I think is hilarious is niether Goodyear or Hoosier would call their blowouts "blowouts", they would refer to a blowout as a "rapid loss of air".  Basically to sell tires, BOTH manufacturers had to sacrifice safety for speed or tire sales.

 

I know some of you might be thinking "these are taxi cabs, were talking about real race cars here".  But these are still the issues I see that will correlate to sprint car racing.  I assume it's very expensive to develop a sprint car tire.  I think you would still have to mandate that all tire manufacturers bring enough tires for all the cars (just look at all the conspiracy theorists over certain drivers getting longer in the work area, imagine if only Brad Sweet was allowed to run American Racer tires on championship night and won by 1/2 lap?).  And then you get into the competition side of things.  two things the manufacturers are going to do to sell tires is by speed and price, which is great usually, unfortunately with racing tires both of those are going to sacrifice safety.



SVMike
November 02, 2023 at 01:37:17 AM
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Posted By: Murphy on November 01 2023 at 09:04:14 PM

I've started reading Strowser's posts in the voice of Pee Wee Herman. They're easier to put into context that way. Smile



Perfect!



jason88cubs
November 03, 2023 at 06:00:49 AM
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https://sportsnaut.com/world-of-outlaws-or-high-limit-a-national-sprint-car-split-has-arrived/

 

 

No way this doesn't end badly




Stock car guy
November 06, 2023 at 10:15:21 AM
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Posted By: hardon on November 02 2023 at 12:32:03 AM

Murphy, I almost always believe that a "free market" aproach means that everyone wins.  Since businesses need to be competetive with each other, typically better products with better prices will come out.  The one (or the only one I can think of right now) exception is racing tires.  This youtube video is a very interesting watch as to why it doesn't work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu5b8oYwiQM .  If you don't want to watch it, I'll try to remember the main bullet points.  Goodyear was purchased by some company and NASCAR was concerned that this company might not want to make racing tires anymore.  They asked Hoosier to get involved.  They allowed both Goodyear and Hoosier to provide tires at every race, I think the years were 88-89 and then again in 94.  But the one rule they had was BOTH manufacturers had to bring enough tires to every race for EVERYONE.  It was not just the people who had contracts to run their tires, EVERYONE.  As I'm sure everyone can see, this is a huge expense to bring semi truck loads of tires that might not get used at all.  Not sure how much they got into it but the "competition" started coming out, and both Goodyear and Hoosier were trying to make faster tires.  We all know what a faster tire means.  The thing I still remember about this video that I think is hilarious is niether Goodyear or Hoosier would call their blowouts "blowouts", they would refer to a blowout as a "rapid loss of air".  Basically to sell tires, BOTH manufacturers had to sacrifice safety for speed or tire sales.

 

I know some of you might be thinking "these are taxi cabs, were talking about real race cars here".  But these are still the issues I see that will correlate to sprint car racing.  I assume it's very expensive to develop a sprint car tire.  I think you would still have to mandate that all tire manufacturers bring enough tires for all the cars (just look at all the conspiracy theorists over certain drivers getting longer in the work area, imagine if only Brad Sweet was allowed to run American Racer tires on championship night and won by 1/2 lap?).  And then you get into the competition side of things.  two things the manufacturers are going to do to sell tires is by speed and price, which is great usually, unfortunately with racing tires both of those are going to sacrifice safety.



As a guy who worked on Cup cars from 1974-2013 the worst thing that ever happened was the Hoosier versus Goodyear deal. Not blaming anyone but racers are going to race and people got hurt. In addition, some of the contracted teams got tires with the prescribed numbers on them for the track they were used at but they were always faster than the tires you got from the dealer at the track. 





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