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June 26, 2018 at
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Again, all we can hope for is that someone gets a hold of Husets and does what ever can be done to help sprint car and dirt car racing in the area regain a foothold. I happen to think that will take cooperation with other tracks particularly in todays market. Anybody who is negative to that can just sit at home and remain negative. And your negativity shows through to anybody that may ultimately show an interest in owning Husets. So keep in mind that your actions today may have an affect on tomorrow. The more negativity you show may be ultimately mean you're shitting in your own nest as they say. I prefer to have an optimistic outlook towards the future. So call me a dreamer, call me butt hurt (which is a real laugh considering what I've been though in my life). None of that matters.
It's much more fun imagining all the things that can be, rather than mucking around in the things that are what they are. And right now Husets/Badlands is only a memory. One good and one bad.
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June 26, 2018 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on June 26 2018 at 03:48:56 PM
Absolutely not knocking the drivers from that area. The Pearce kid just to mention one seems to be pretty damn good at getting to the front when he doesn't start there. I think the Mack family drivers are what...third generation, fourth generation? They seem solid enough. That area is no different than any other. 75% -80% of the drivers or so are always going to remain local and only local. More so because of the lack of family money in most cases with what it takes today. And like anywhere else there will be some drivers getting the opportunity to break away and get a shot at something bigger. Sadly, ability alone today doesn't seem to be the answer. And hasn't been for quite awhile. NOSA has done a good job implementing primarily two tracks with races scatterred elsewhere. And I believe they also have some Sunday night shows throught the season. And yes, Grand Forks is the primary area for the drivers in that region as someone corrected me on. And I knew that, too.....just had a brain fart was all. But still....the distance from there to Husets is similar to Husets to Knoxville.
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I agree with ya Blazer....some will always be local, and a chosen few get a shot at something more. Same on ability alone not being the determining factor nowadays. I was , however impressed with the NOSA with what they are doing with that series, and this year expanding out a bit to some South Dakota tracks on the northern side. I hope it takes hold and helps us sprint fans. While the crowd at Brown County wasn’t a sellout as the WoO was a couple years ago, it was damn solid with rain all around the track...he’ll I live 60 miles west and we had over 2” that day. It seems that the NOSA is doing what it can with it’s platform, yet not trying to be more than it can with 15-20 racers who have day jobs. I hope it succeeds such as the MSTS.
As with your following post concerning negativity. My old home track, Lake County Speedway is Now trees and grass. Now it wasn’t negativity that killed that one, but Lyle HoweyIII to make I90 better, then he killed that one when Brennan cheesed his pockets. But it shows what can happen to a track. I sure hope Husets gets an owner who is willing to take some lumps to put in the time to make it great again.
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Posted By: DakotaDude on June 26 2018 at 11:12:05 AM
I'm not stepping on your toes here, and I'm not stepping in on the travelling debate, but I have to say this about the North Dakota drivers you mentioned above. I kind of took it, maybe wrongly, that you were knocking their quality, with the exception of Dobs and Nygaard. I took in my first NOSA show this weekend at Aberdeen as part of the series Northern tour. In the middle of Wissota Late Model and Mod country there were 20 sprint cars there, of which very few were from South of US Hwy 12 that runs through Aberdeen , meaning the vast majority were NOSA regulars. I'd say 2/3 to 3/4 were quality cars that could be competitive anywhere given the chance. Will they travel, that indent know as I'm guessing the vast majority had to go to work Monday morning after the Watertown show. On a side note, from the Watertown show, a big shout out to Old Chuck McGillvary running from 14th up to 7th with a 360 under the hood! The old man still has the spark!
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I guess I really didn't see it as a knock per say, but I think more of a reference of what NOSA used to be compared to what it is now. 10 years ago I remember them guys coming to Husets for the NOSA sanctioned races and I think only Dobs, Nygaard, and a Mack or two actually had 410s, I also remember them racing in Huron, and not sure how true this is, but of the 17 or so that showed up only 6 or 7 had 410s. Back then, they were all just very recreational racers (Aren't we all, LOL). Point being that series has made a huge turn from 10 years ago to now. Hell when I was at a couple shows in GF in 2016 and those guys were tough. I think racing against Dobs and Nygaard for a while they figured they needed to step their game up, and boy they did. It is a shame that they race for what they do still, but they have the cars and talent.
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I am surprised Nodak doesnt host a monthly sprint race. Close geographically. Great facility. Anyone know why not?
Even though I may not know you, I
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Posted By: blazer00 on June 26 2018 at 04:04:32 PM
Again, all we can hope for is that someone gets a hold of Husets and does what ever can be done to help sprint car and dirt car racing in the area regain a foothold. I happen to think that will take cooperation with other tracks particularly in todays market. Anybody who is negative to that can just sit at home and remain negative. And your negativity shows through to anybody that may ultimately show an interest in owning Husets. So keep in mind that your actions today may have an affect on tomorrow. The more negativity you show may be ultimately mean you're shitting in your own nest as they say. I prefer to have an optimistic outlook towards the future. So call me a dreamer, call me butt hurt (which is a real laugh considering what I've been though in my life). None of that matters.
It's much more fun imagining all the things that can be, rather than mucking around in the things that are what they are. And right now Husets/Badlands is only a memory. One good and one bad.
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Some of us are not being negative, we're just being realistic.
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Posted By: TBSprintFan on June 27 2018 at 09:01:38 AM
Some of us are not being negative, we're just being realistic.
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Realistic is a person can't physically stick their head up their own -ss. Optimistic is even difficult things are possible. Negative is shooting down any type of thought that might make a difficult thing possible. 
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Posted By: newbeevur on June 26 2018 at 12:42:29 PM
Going back to the 1990's Gold Cup, rumor was that Ted Johnson raised hell about Kinser and some others not following the Outlaws to California and told Huset's no more 20,000 to win at that deal, curious if anybody else has the inside scoop on that now 25 years after the fact.
As far as the Medstar issue being the reason for Badlands Speedway closing, uhh yeah its also the reason KBAD and the Pawn Shop closed too, right?
Lil Chucky ( as he is called here) got sick of all the bitching and said screw it this isn't fun and got the hell out.
The smartest/most perceptive man in sprint car racing- Terry McCarl- predicted this with his analogy with Craig Cormack who came in and spent a ton on Eagle Raceway, watched keyboard commandos bitch, piss and moan 24/7 on racing websites about his track and said "screw this it just isn't fun" and also exited the racing business. Luckily for Omaha/Lincoln race fans, Roger Haden came in to resurrect Eagle. Who is the Sioux Falls Roger Haden gonna be??
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Last point translated: it wasn't making enough money.
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June 27, 2018 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on June 27 2018 at 11:38:13 AM
Realistic is a person can't physically stick their head up their own -ss. Optimistic is even difficult things are possible. Negative is shooting down any type of thought that might make a difficult thing possible.
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That's it in a nutshell blazer. But I might add or twerk your last sentence.
Negative is shooting down any type of thought that might make a difficult this possible or shooting down any idea that doesn't agree with one's own personal opinion.
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June 27, 2018 at
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Posted By: DakotaDude on June 27 2018 at 12:30:43 PM
That's it in a nutshell blazer. But I might add or twerk your last sentence.
Negative is shooting down any type of thought that might make a difficult this possible or shooting down any idea that doesn't agree with one's own personal opinion.
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What thoughts other than to disagree with and put down any of my thoughts and ideas have you come up with that I could possibly have disagreed with? Don't just sit back and butcher somebody elses thoughts and then simply sit on your nuts and come up with nothing! Let's hear it. You now own Badlands......what's your plan?
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June 27, 2018 at
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Posted By: blazer00 on June 27 2018 at 03:37:57 PM
What thoughts other than to disagree with and put down any of my thoughts and ideas have you come up with that I could possibly have disagreed with? Don't just sit back and butcher somebody elses thoughts and then simply sit on your nuts and come up with nothing! Let's hear it. You now own Badlands......what's your plan?
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Wait a minute wait a minute blazer....I was totally agreeing with you dude! Please don’t read anything into what isn’t there. my addition to the thought was a somewhat snarkyism at others...
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June 27, 2018 at
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Posted By: DakotaDude on June 27 2018 at 09:19:29 PM
Wait a minute wait a minute blazer....I was totally agreeing with you dude! Please don’t read anything into what isn’t there. my addition to the thought was a somewhat snarkyism at others...
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Your right.....sorry....I misunderstood. The "what would you do" is meant for guys like Green18, 3togo and others that make snide remarks or say this or that won't work. They are the ones sitting on their nuts with no ideas of their own to discuss. Somewhere in all of this is a solution to get Husets back in the main stream again, provided a buyer does come along.
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Posted By: blazer00 on June 27 2018 at 11:38:13 AM
Realistic is a person can't physically stick their head up their own -ss. Optimistic is even difficult things are possible. Negative is shooting down any type of thought that might make a difficult thing possible.
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Let's play this another way, how do you think Knoxville would do racing on a Sunday night? Do you think they could pay the same purse they are now on a Sunday night? Do you think they would get the same size crowd on a Sunday night? Do you think they would get all the same drivers on a Sunday night?
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Posted By: blazer00 on June 27 2018 at 11:57:02 PM
Your right.....sorry....I misunderstood. The "what would you do" is meant for guys like Green18, 3togo and others that make snide remarks or say this or that won't work. They are the ones sitting on their nuts with no ideas of their own to discuss. Somewhere in all of this is a solution to get Husets back in the main stream again, provided a buyer does come along.
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Just because we disagree doesn’t mean I’m sitting on my nuts with no ideas. The only idea you got is to run a 3 night weekend. I simply gave my opinion, shared examples (car counts) to support my claim. You disagree. And you’re upset. The difference between the examples I give and the ones you give, when talking abour car counts on Sundays, is I gave real examples of past car counts, and can give you more if you’d like. . You just simply are telling us what you (Think) might happen.
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Posted By: hardon on June 17 2018 at 10:48:10 PM
Yes that is my thought exactly (not sure if buying votes is the correct term or not), however, I don't know the guy and I could be wrong. It was also my understanding that it was a state election. But the Sioux Falls area is the highest populated area in the state. Would it have made more sense to do this in Mobridge SD? This also wasn't the only thing he was doing either, he had the pawn shop and some rock and roll thing for the kids (which I heard at the time, wasn't going anywhere no matter what the results were of the election. Which is not around either anymore).
Your last two sentences contradict eachother. First you say he was going to build it into something bigger and sell it at a profit later. Then you say he didn't get his way so he went home. I don't buy that he would have bought it to make this into a bigger operation for a couple reasons. First off, he has an established business that's made him a millionaire many times over. I don't see his business going under. So why would he need to branch out into a new business? If someone is buying an entertainment venue to make a profit, I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night either lol, but holding no events there doesn't seem very profitable to me.
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Well I'm actually a Holiday Inn Gold member, so doesn't that qualify me as a genius or something? ;-)
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So, 27 NOSA cars (410's) showed up at Watertown for $1500 to win last Sunday. So, I am guessing Sunday night would work just fine in the Sioux Falls area. Especially when you figure in the advantages of working WITH the other tracks in the area rather than against them. Casino, Rocky, Park Jeff, Jackson, and Kville can and will benefit from Badlands being back up and running. However, the biggest benefit will be seen by the fans of sprint car racing in the northern plains.
Thanx,
Bruce
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Posted By: sapper211 on June 28 2018 at 09:06:52 AM
So, 27 NOSA cars (410's) showed up at Watertown for $1500 to win last Sunday. So, I am guessing Sunday night would work just fine in the Sioux Falls area. Especially when you figure in the advantages of working WITH the other tracks in the area rather than against them. Casino, Rocky, Park Jeff, Jackson, and Kville can and will benefit from Badlands being back up and running. However, the biggest benefit will be seen by the fans of sprint car racing in the northern plains.
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There may have been 27 NOSA cars at Watertown on a Sunday, but you also need to think that Watertown is 2 hours closer to Fargo than Sioux Falls is as well. It was a 2 hour drive back home for the Fargo guys and a 3 hour drive back home for the GF guys, rather than 4 hour and 5 hour drives respectively. Guy racing Husets from GF gets back home at 4am, thats if the races are done by 10, figuring in Loading up, Stopping at the gast station to fill up, grab a burger, etc. Some will do it, but I dont think as many as you saw at Watertown will on a regular basis.
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Ok, I'll break down and throw my plan in if I owned the joint. All of this doesn't take into consideration what I paid for it. There definitely are flaws but he'll, it's just my idea I've been ruminating on. First off, Sunday is races at, for a few reasons. 1, it worked for years. 2, you would be working with the other tracks in the vicinity. 3, it's what the homeowners in the area were used to and no matter how much we don't like it we obviously need to work with them. Next, were starting hot laps at 530 pm and racing at 6. This, again is to work with the homeowners. Hopefully starting at this time we can guarantee we are done by 930 -10:00. That also puts travellers home sooner. As well, possibly some fans will forgo eating supper before going to the track and will support our reasonably priced concessions which will be simple yet fulfilling. Simple, quality and quantity for a fair price for both consumer and seller. Next, two classes of fenders. From what I remember when I was in the area for many years, as much as this is a sprint board and those are our #1, those classes are the ones that brought mom,dad, cousins,friends, etc of the driver and crew and they supported them rabidly. Then we run 305 racesavers , their appears to be a hotbed of those in the area. As well, it could be a home for the MSTS 360's on a regular basis. There appear to be several of those. Build off all of that, possibly rotating the 360's and 410's to build back the facility. Bring in NOSA when ya can on a semi regular basis or create a series between Jackson, Knoxville and Husets similar to the NSL that was on its way before the drama. If ya rotate em around so it isn't the long drive every week maybe it would work. Pay decent top to bottom and if you could tow money to those that come from 100 miles away or more. Don't know if that would work. Fans , with exception of special shows, get in the track for adults at $15, high school students $10 and 12 and under free. What I think some here are hoping for is instant back to the way it was. A new operator is gonna have to be willing to take the time to build it . Will fields be full right away? Nope. I'm sure 15 car fields per class would suffice to those who have been without for so long. Just my thoughts, not bashing any others ideas. Not looking to be slammed in return.
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There may have been 27 NOSA cars at Watertown on a Sunday, but you also need to think that Watertown is 2 hours closer to Fargo than Sioux Falls is as well. It was a 2 hour drive back home for the Fargo guys and a 3 hour drive back home for the GF guys, rather than 4 hour and 5 hour drives respectively. Guy racing Husets from GF gets back home at 4am, thats if the races are done by 10, figuring in Loading up, Stopping at the gast station to fill up, grab a burger, etc. Some will do it, but I dont think as many as you saw at Watertown will on a regular basis.
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Correct, not arguing that. However, Sioux Falls is ZERO miles from Sioux Falls. If teams are willing to drive 3 or 4 hours for a Sunday night show paying $1500, how many would drive ZERO to 5 hours for a Sunday night show paying $5000 to win? I am saying the argument that Sunday night racing doesn't work is pretty pathetic.
Thanx,
Bruce
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Let's play this another way, how do you think Knoxville would do racing on a Sunday night? Do you think they could pay the same purse they are now on a Sunday night? Do you think they would get the same size crowd on a Sunday night? Do you think they would get all the same drivers on a Sunday night?
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Get off the "why don't bullshit" Knoxville and Jackson didn't upset the apple cart! And the guy that did has abandoned all the Husets fans, right? Right!
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Posted By: Green18 on June 28 2018 at 01:13:33 AM
Just because we disagree doesn’t mean I’m sitting on my nuts with no ideas. The only idea you got is to run a 3 night weekend. I simply gave my opinion, shared examples (car counts) to support my claim. You disagree. And you’re upset. The difference between the examples I give and the ones you give, when talking abour car counts on Sundays, is I gave real examples of past car counts, and can give you more if you’d like. . You just simply are telling us what you (Think) might happen.
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I did.....take a look at the Sunday night car counts at Husets on Sunday nights in 2015. That was the first year and a building year for the NSL. Which began with the thought of a three track base and three nights of racing to build on. Your numbers are based on three tracks and two nuights of racing. Numbers by the way that petered out at Badlands towards the end for the weekly shows. So you now own Husets/Badlands/ What's your plan?
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