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beezr2002
May 11, 2020 at 04:37:36 PM
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Posted By: jz77 on May 11 2020 at 09:25:25 AM

Pretty simple reason.  Dependent people are easy to control and an easy vote in the next election.  

 

Same reason they try to create fear and panic.  You become easily controlled if you live in fear.  That's why people like you and egras, and nick14 think the way you do.  Fearful and easily manipulated.  You need somebody to think for you.  Wait on some so called "expert" to think for you.  No original thoughts.  

 

Now we begin to see the people that can think for themselves starting to open things up without permission from the idiot governor and his girlfriend, Dr. It. 

This is the people's country.  Not one dicktator.



I like your post for the most part. I believe 3 outa 3 of the people you mentioned do not live in PA. The "Dr. It" about made spit out some beer.



brewer1s
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Good posts Nick. I must be grouped in with you an Egras as I tend to agree with your posts and I like you said Dewine and Wolfe are going about this pretty much the same way with a few more stores being open in Ohio then Pa.  Oh by the way I am from Pa.



MandGRacing96
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Posted By: brewer1s on May 11 2020 at 04:49:59 PM

Good posts Nick. I must be grouped in with you an Egras as I tend to agree with your posts and I like you said Dewine and Wolfe are going about this pretty much the same way with a few more stores being open in Ohio then Pa.  Oh by the way I am from Pa.



Lifetime ban for bringing up politics!!!  Please




BStrawser26
May 12, 2020 at 12:41:17 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on May 11 2020 at 03:35:57 PM

First of all, the Moderators asked us to stop arguing politics. But BStrawser keeps bringing up "impeach the idiot Governor", & then has the nerve to claim thats not a political statement. Then you guys jump on the bandwagon. I'd be perfectly happy to focus on sprint cars, but I'm not gonna let these comments go unanswered.

"This is the people's country. Not one dicktator"? You might want to explain that to this egotistical, infantile compulsive liar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhni0fYpnXI

 



You might want to try to explain the last couple of sentences to the IDIOT that lives in MT. Wolf!......since he is a dictator and a liar.  He is the only coward I see.  How do you know when Wolf is lying?.....his lips are moving.   Let Selinsgrove race.  Let the people go to work so they can watch the races online.  


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

revjimk
May 12, 2020 at 07:31:50 PM
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Posted By: MandGRacing96 on May 11 2020 at 04:57:49 PM

Lifetime ban for bringing up politics!!!  Please



Yea, maybe for BRINGING IT UP.... not responding

BStrawser just won't shut up

As they say on the playground "He started it"



revjimk
May 12, 2020 at 07:33:01 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on May 12 2020 at 12:41:17 PM

You might want to try to explain the last couple of sentences to the IDIOT that lives in MT. Wolf!......since he is a dictator and a liar.  He is the only coward I see.  How do you know when Wolf is lying?.....his lips are moving.   Let Selinsgrove race.  Let the people go to work so they can watch the races online.  



Did you even watch the video? That was Chetto McTweeto, NOT the Pa. Governor




YRB12
May 12, 2020 at 08:58:15 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on May 12 2020 at 07:31:50 PM

Yea, maybe for BRINGING IT UP.... not responding

BStrawser just won't shut up

As they say on the playground "He started it"



More like, what a little kid would say on the playground.



SprintFan16
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Posted By: jz77 on May 11 2020 at 09:25:25 AM

Pretty simple reason.  Dependent people are easy to control and an easy vote in the next election.  

 

Same reason they try to create fear and panic.  You become easily controlled if you live in fear.  That's why people like you and egras, and nick14 think the way you do.  Fearful and easily manipulated.  You need somebody to think for you.  Wait on some so called "expert" to think for you.  No original thoughts.  

 

Now we begin to see the people that can think for themselves starting to open things up without permission from the idiot governor and his girlfriend, Dr. It. 

This is the people's country.  Not one dicktator.



The lovely voice of logic: Let's ignore the experts. 



BStrawser26
May 12, 2020 at 09:20:24 PM
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Posted By: YRB12 on May 12 2020 at 08:58:15 PM

More like, what a little kid would say on the playground.



Nope just pounding away at our Governor.  He deserves it since he lies about everything including Selinsgrove speedway.  Let them race....let them race...let them race.  He is still hiding out in his basement!  Did I say let them race?  It will only help the other tracks in PA.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


BStrawser26
May 12, 2020 at 09:21:46 PM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on May 12 2020 at 09:17:42 PM

The lovely voice of logic: Let's ignore the experts. 



+1


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

BStrawser26
May 12, 2020 at 09:24:12 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on May 12 2020 at 07:33:01 PM

Did you even watch the video? That was Chetto McTweeto, NOT the Pa. Governor



I don't care who was on the video.  Just stating facts about the PA liar. Let's race. I am putting the blame on the person who stopped the race and then lied about not having permission... dictator and cheif.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

SprintFan16
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on May 12 2020 at 09:24:12 PM

I don't care who was on the video.  Just stating facts about the PA liar. Let's race. I am putting the blame on the person who stopped the race and then lied about not having permission... dictator and cheif.



It certainly seems like Selinsgrove got the short end of the stick on the first run, and quite possibly did for the second run, however, at any point did they have explicit permission from the state governor's office for the SECOND attempt at this race? I am not saying they didn't - just asking. 




bgtexpress
May 13, 2020 at 06:38:58 AM
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What I don't understand was how Roaring Knob, in the western part of the state, was able to hold a DLM race last weekend (apparently with fans in the stands) and suffer no repercussions?



MandGRacing96
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Posted By: bgtexpress on May 13 2020 at 06:38:58 AM

What I don't understand was how Roaring Knob, in the western part of the state, was able to hold a DLM race last weekend (apparently with fans in the stands) and suffer no repercussions?



Selinsgrove?  Racing?



MIDDLEFINGER
May 13, 2020 at 10:56:17 AM
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State Will Not Work With Selinsgrove Speedway, Refuses To Allow Racing
          

May 16 Event Cancelled Per Governor’s Office, Oval Planning For Mid-Season Action

A late morning call Tuesday to State Representative David Rowe from the Pennsylvania Governor’s office has ended any hopes of racing in the near future at Selinsgrove Speedway and therefore the “Posse Unleashed” 410 sprint car, non-spectator, non-social special slated for this Saturday, May 16 has been cancelled.

Despite the best efforts of Representative Rowe and others in the legislature, no reasonable response could be achieved from the governor’s office that would permit racing at the speedway under the already installed state and CDC “aggressive mitigation” guidelines that the oval was fully instituting as a preventative measure against COVID-19.

“We are extremely disappointed at the heavy-handed approach and response by the governor’s office to our good business practices in an effort to race at the track,” says oval co-promoter Mike Heffner.

“Not only did the state lead us on a wild goose chase by approving our plans and then reversing course mid-stream which caused us significant financial loss, but then when faced with a reasonable and flexible request to see the event completed, the governor’s office simply refused to show any interest or workability in remedying the issue.”

“We are very dissatisfied with not only this decision but with how the entire situation was handled.  It is a glaring example of failure in leadership by the state during this trying time,” Heffner summarized.

The cancellation of the event means that ALL entry fees previously collected for the event will be fully refunded by the speedway in the coming days. 

Questions can be directed to [email protected]

Slated to be live streamed via pay per view on The Cushion, all pre-purchase event view tickets will be refunded by the broadcaster.

“We have no choice but to honor state directives in order to protect not only Selinsgrove Speedway and its future but to also protect DH & L Fire Company, the majority stakeholder in the facility,” says track General Manager Steve Inch. 

“Both the speedway and the fire company are reliant in one way or another upon state awarded contracts, licenses and funding in order to keep operating and to lose that support would be devastating to both places in so many ways.” 

Selinsgrove Speedway remains optimistic that it can and will see a return to racing action during mid-season and indeed plans are in place to see the historic oval resume action as soon as possible.

The speedway is currently evaluating a plan for hosting conservative practice sessions during the coming weeks and will make announcements about that plan in the near future.

For all the latest speedway news and information visit selinsgrovespeedway.com or follow the track on Facebook or Twitter.

From Selinsgrovespeedway.com

 




amyjur
May 13, 2020 at 12:12:19 PM
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It certainly seems like Selinsgrove got the short end of the stick on the first run, and quite possibly did for the second run, however, at any point did they have explicit permission from the state governor's office for the SECOND attempt at this race? I am not saying they didn't - just asking. 



This is my understanding and if anyone has any more info, please feel free to chime in and/or correct me. Selinsgrove attempted to race last week, the 9th,  just after moving into the yellow phase. After being given the green light by the DCED earlier in the week, Selinsgrove was told later in the week things had changed and they could no longer race. Instead of cancelling completely, they postponed until this week, the 16th. I believe it was their hope that after communicating with the governor, the governor would see that this race poses less of a threat to the participants than those same people going to Walmart. There would have been less people at the track, it would be outdoors and the track had plans in place to follow the CDC guidelines. The track is owned by a local fire company and it is a revenue generator for them and for the race teams in attendance, this is a business. The teams spend money, make money and pay taxes. For those that view this simply as entertainment, the fans, fans wouldn't be there thus elminating that factor. Apparently there wasn't much discussion with the governor as the race was definitely been cancelled as of last night. As has been the case throughout the entire process here in PA, there is no rhyme or reason to the decisions being made with common sense and consistency thrown out the window.

As far as Roaring Knob, they are in a county that when they raced, was still in red. Reportedly they just raced and flew low enough under the radar authorities didn't know they were racing until the race was happening. Apparently the authorities don't follow social media because it was there for anyone who wanted to see it. They didn't try and hide it. State police were said to have been called and while police didn't require them to cease operations immediately, the track was instructed to move things along and get it finished. I heard comments that it was packed but looking at the photos posted on their Facebook page, it doesn't appear that social distancing should have been a problem. Roaring Knob will be going yellow Friday the 15th and as of now, they claim they are still racing. What absolutely infuriates me about their race last week has nothing to do with people gathering and the virus. I'm hearing they had no safely personnel on site. If someone knows for certain otherwise, please let me know. If what I've heard is true, no matter what your opinion about racing during these times, not having safely personnel is beyond careless and reckless. As a driver there is no way I would participate in such an event and I would not support it as a fan. We all want to get back to the track but this isn't worth it. Going back has to be done the right way. It's actions like this that make the dirt track community look like a bunch of factious ignorant hillbillies.    



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This is my understanding and if anyone has any more info, please feel free to chime in and/or correct me. Selinsgrove attempted to race last week, the 9th,  just after moving into the yellow phase. After being given the green light by the DCED earlier in the week, Selinsgrove was told later in the week things had changed and they could no longer race. Instead of cancelling completely, they postponed until this week, the 16th. I believe it was their hope that after communicating with the governor, the governor would see that this race poses less of a threat to the participants than those same people going to Walmart. There would have been less people at the track, it would be outdoors and the track had plans in place to follow the CDC guidelines. The track is owned by a local fire company and it is a revenue generator for them and for the race teams in attendance, this is a business. The teams spend money, make money and pay taxes. For those that view this simply as entertainment, the fans, fans wouldn't be there thus elminating that factor. Apparently there wasn't much discussion with the governor as the race was definitely been cancelled as of last night. As has been the case throughout the entire process here in PA, there is no rhyme or reason to the decisions being made with common sense and consistency thrown out the window.

As far as Roaring Knob, they are in a county that when they raced, was still in red. Reportedly they just raced and flew low enough under the radar authorities didn't know they were racing until the race was happening. Apparently the authorities don't follow social media because it was there for anyone who wanted to see it. They didn't try and hide it. State police were said to have been called and while police didn't require them to cease operations immediately, the track was instructed to move things along and get it finished. I heard comments that it was packed but looking at the photos posted on their Facebook page, it doesn't appear that social distancing should have been a problem. Roaring Knob will be going yellow Friday the 15th and as of now, they claim they are still racing. What absolutely infuriates me about their race last week has nothing to do with people gathering and the virus. I'm hearing they had no safely personnel on site. If someone knows for certain otherwise, please let me know. If what I've heard is true, no matter what your opinion about racing during these times, not having safely personnel is beyond careless and reckless. As a driver there is no way I would participate in such an event and I would not support it as a fan. We all want to get back to the track but this isn't worth it. Going back has to be done the right way. It's actions like this that make the dirt track community look like a bunch of factious ignorant hillbillies.    



It definitely seems the first run was mishandled by the state - that seems clear. However, unless there's some info that has not been reported about this week's attempt, it seems that the track may have erred in pushing forward. 



revjimk
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I don't care who was on the video.  Just stating facts about the PA liar. Let's race. I am putting the blame on the person who stopped the race and then lied about not having permission... dictator and cheif.



You don't care that The Orange Turd thinks HE'S the Dictator???




MIDDLEFINGER
May 13, 2020 at 12:54:52 PM
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You don't care that The Orange Turd thinks HE'S the Dictator???



who is the dictator? 

the governors are in charge of opening their states not Trump or the feds 10th amendment

states with Dimm governors will not race this year ......you can bet on it

the so called experts have been wrong 100% of the time so far



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Posted By: SprintFan16 on May 13 2020 at 12:27:47 PM

It definitely seems the first run was mishandled by the state - that seems clear. However, unless there's some info that has not been reported about this week's attempt, it seems that the track may have erred in pushing forward. 



I'm not quite sure I'm following you. I don't think Selinsgrove has erred in any way. When the race was initially cancelled, they were transparent what transpired to that point. They were initially given approval and that approval was later rescinded. It was clear when they postponed that they were doing so in an effort to try and work with officials to reach a resolution that would allow the race to be held. They never tried to hide anything from anyone, officials, race teams or fans. It was all out there for everyone to see. They never stated or implied that by postponing, the race was definitely going to happen the next weekend and all had been resolved. Everyone knew there was a chance the race would be cancelled. If anyone thought postponing meant a race the following weekend was for certain, it was only because they weren't keeping up with the information Selinsgrove was putting out. They did right by everybody as far as I'm concerned. They got approval up front and when it was rescinded, they fought to try and get to race all while letting everyone know exactly what was going on. They couldn't do any more.  Bigger picture, this establishes that even in yellow, race tracks in PA can't race. 





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