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JJRFan
October 14, 2020 at 07:53:34 AM
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So (hypothetically with the alleged Gravel to the 2M) where does Kerry end up?



SpcJay
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Posted By: JJRFan on October 14 2020 at 07:53:34 AM

So (hypothetically with the alleged Gravel to the 2M) where does Kerry end up?



Gravel to the 2M

Kerry to the 83

Macedo to the 41

PPM to the Buch 13 on the All Star Tour

Chase Dietz to the Trone 39

Freddie Rahmer to the 75 car (former dietz ride) at Lincoln only, 51 everywhere else

McMahan back to CJB in the 5 car

Brent Marks back to his own 19 on the Outlaws Tour



dsc1600
October 14, 2020 at 10:20:32 AM
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Posted By: SpcJay on October 14 2020 at 09:11:30 AM

Gravel to the 2M

Kerry to the 83

Macedo to the 41

PPM to the Buch 13 on the All Star Tour

Chase Dietz to the Trone 39

Freddie Rahmer to the 75 car (former dietz ride) at Lincoln only, 51 everywhere else

McMahan back to CJB in the 5 car

Brent Marks back to his own 19 on the Outlaws Tour



The McMahan and Marks items would be very interesting.

The rest of the moves make perfect sense.




JJRFan
October 14, 2020 at 11:58:46 AM
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Posted By: SpcJay on October 14 2020 at 09:11:30 AM

Gravel to the 2M

Kerry to the 83

Macedo to the 41

PPM to the Buch 13 on the All Star Tour

Chase Dietz to the Trone 39

Freddie Rahmer to the 75 car (former dietz ride) at Lincoln only, 51 everywhere else

McMahan back to CJB in the 5 car

Brent Marks back to his own 19 on the Outlaws Tour



CJB with another driver swap?? Goodness. Although I'd like all these moves.



J_Barr
October 14, 2020 at 10:48:31 PM
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There's a few on that list that jump out that don't seem to make much sense to me. 

Kerry to the 83:  I feel like a PPM/Zeb Wise/Bayston would need to fill that seat to keep that ride going on the Outlaw tour. Unless Kerry is bringing more to the table ($$$) for that team than the others I mentioned, I don't think he's brought the results the past few seasons to justify a full time Outlaw or All Star ride at this point. He's consistently fast and is a vet that'll take care of equipment, which could be the appeal like Pittman was for them. 

Rahmer to the 75 at Lincoln: Why at Lincoln only? Why at all? Theres a missing link there I can't put together there. He's been really great at Lincoln in their car the past few seasons. If its a cost cutting situation, I would think it would be at the expense of Brandon, not Freddie.  That would be a serious downgrade.

McMahan/Marks: I see Brent staying with CJB and repeating what they did this year. I don't see Paul being able to bring more funds or speed than Brent is to that team and they've been really competitive once they got rolling this season. 

Bonus thought: If Marks and CJB were to part ways, and Freddie was looking for a ride....

 



jlloyd31
October 15, 2020 at 07:05:20 AM
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Sammy Swindell to the Karl kinser5m, steve kinser  to the TSR 15, and Stevie smith to the Kaeding 2. Rumors I heard......




Curious12
October 15, 2020 at 08:15:43 AM
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Freddy Rahmer stays with the family car for PA unless a possible WOO deal would be available then a possible move. They have good equipment and sponsors no need to go to a lesser car.  I highly doubt he would move to CJB, Father did that rodeo and  left. Brent will remain in CJB heard from good source close to family. I home Paul lands a ride like the 72 if Pittman truly retires but would not be unhappy with Pittman remaining in PA. I do hope McMahan finds a ride and would love to see him in PA. I like his attitude and feel he is good for the sport. His family and him very involved in the race world. There is alot of money in PA racing with large races and three tracks to run for the weekend.  Not a Gravel fan at all but loved Jason Johnson. Hope the 41 gets a driver I could root for. Glad to see the Trone Car stayed with a local driver.

Wonder about the 21 with Montieth. Heard the owner having personal issues and may not be able to fund the car. Would be a loss for the local racing. Also the 24 will they remain with Lucas Wolfe since the car has really not produced much in the way of top finishes in the last two years. Usually a back runner now.

Figured I would add my 2 cents as everyone else is. Not from PA just like the racing weekly there. 

 



Keyboard Jockey
October 15, 2020 at 08:23:59 AM
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Posted By: Sprinter#4 on October 01 2020 at 07:39:56 AM

Well arent you just a lil keyboard jockey dipsh*t.   there is a reason it says rumors, not saying its 100%, but most came from a reliable source within racing that seems to have a pretty good pulse on the sport.  wait and watch, and when some comes true ill wait for your reaction.  thanks for the nickname ya douche canoe.



I resent that... I do like douche canoe though!

Edit* cant believe I missed this 2 weeks ago. 



SpcJay
October 15, 2020 at 10:38:02 AM
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This message was edited on October 15, 2020 at 10:40:31 AM by SpcJay

Daryn Pittman to stay in the 72 car next year on a limited basis and also become the promoter at Selinsgrove Speedway as his new post racing venture.

Only way Lucas leaves is if he wants to...otherwise, they'll ride it out. Main need there is a full-time crewchief for the 24 team.




JP50138
October 15, 2020 at 02:55:58 PM
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How about Tim Kaeding to the TSR 14 to finish the WoO season! 



Chuck_DeFrank
October 17, 2020 at 11:03:24 AM
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Posted By: JJRFan on October 07 2020 at 06:44:11 AM

There will be a 41 car in 2021. 2nd year in a row someone's tried to say they're shutting down.



Trying to find it... Bobbi Johnson commented on some Knoxville forum site about PPM not working out in Phil's car and things maybe different next year... Jaxx is interested in playing baseball and basketball... Nothing about shutting down though...



JJRFan
October 17, 2020 at 11:14:04 AM
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Posted By: Chuck_DeFrank on October 17 2020 at 11:03:24 AM

Trying to find it... Bobbi Johnson commented on some Knoxville forum site about PPM not working out in Phil's car and things maybe different next year... Jaxx is interested in playing baseball and basketball... Nothing about shutting down though...



Well the guy that's being rumored the be in the 41 next just might be the guy that's going to be in the 41. KLR is done, and JJR needs a full time driver for the future. And the guy rumored is the guy they wanted before they even rejoined the tour.




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October 17, 2020 at 11:41:17 AM
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Posted By: JJRFan on October 17 2020 at 11:14:04 AM

Well the guy that's being rumored the be in the 41 next just might be the guy that's going to be in the 41. KLR is done, and JJR needs a full time driver for the future. And the guy rumored is the guy they wanted before they even rejoined the tour.



Not rocket science.   He has a big checkbook and they need funding.  Same reason PPM was in the 14.   He brought something with him.   I find it funny you keep saying Dietz owns the car when there is no such owner getting a 1099 from Woo.  It's PPM, LLC.  Those checks are showing up in PPMs account and the taxes are being paid by PPM LLC. 
Dietz is Clearly not the owner.  His name is on it but I'd be rest assured there was a nice amount of funding from PPM to acquire that ride and the cars were same as 41 coming out of that shop with that funding.  The rig was tagged out of Indiana.  



JJRFan
October 17, 2020 at 12:46:27 PM
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Well they'd tweet it out, but they deleted their Twitter. It's well known in the pits they're closing up shop for the foreseeable future.

 

Also all mentions of the world of outlaws team has been deleted of their team website and the only thing there is Kyle's apology. KLR is done.



JJRFan
October 18, 2020 at 06:40:13 AM
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Not rocket science.   He has a big checkbook and they need funding.  Same reason PPM was in the 14.   He brought something with him.   I find it funny you keep saying Dietz owns the car when there is no such owner getting a 1099 from Woo.  It's PPM, LLC.  Those checks are showing up in PPMs account and the taxes are being paid by PPM LLC. 
Dietz is Clearly not the owner.  His name is on it but I'd be rest assured there was a nice amount of funding from PPM to acquire that ride and the cars were same as 41 coming out of that shop with that funding.  The rig was tagged out of Indiana.  



LOL. Yeah PPM just employed Gravel and Dietz to race the car that he dumped off at the shop and left town after being told he wasn't in the 41 car for 2021. Dietz purchased a 2019 car from Bobbi and does indeed own that car. The only thing he didn't own was the rig getting them up and down the road and possibly the mule.




JJRFan
October 18, 2020 at 06:43:21 AM
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Posted By: JJRFan on October 18 2020 at 06:40:13 AM

LOL. Yeah PPM just employed Gravel and Dietz to race the car that he dumped off at the shop and left town after being told he wasn't in the 41 car for 2021. Dietz purchased a 2019 car from Bobbi and does indeed own that car. The only thing he didn't own was the rig getting them up and down the road and possibly the mule.



Once again if it was all his shit, why wouldn't he just race it without Dietz than? Why does he need to hop in the 71 car?



Bear
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October 18, 2020 at 10:22:05 AM
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Posted By: JJRFan on October 18 2020 at 06:43:21 AM

Once again if it was all his shit, why wouldn't he just race it without Dietz than? Why does he need to hop in the 71 car?



If you clearly know so much than tell me who paid the bills on the car? Also where did the backup car come from since Dietz only has one car, a 2019.    Where did the motors come from?   Just asking since you know so much.   I'll pretty much double down on who paid the bills and where the funding for that team came from and it wasn't Dietz!!!!  
I already said the cars came from JJR shop.  Just because you own the chassis doesn't make you the owner of the team and that was my point.  Dietz might have provided a car and that was his contribution beyond his mechanical insight.Sponsors own motors and cars etc.    When they leave those things go with or the funds stay behind for purchased equipment  for the team  it's called sponsorship or a cash equity  funding   

As I said before, there was money exchanging hands and we pretty much know who's was writing those checks. 
peace out!! 

 



J&J
October 18, 2020 at 08:20:54 PM
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Posted By: Stroker_Race on October 14 2020 at 12:11:27 AM

How's that crow taste Mr. know it all?  PPM is not driving the 14 this week. 

Also for those wondering about what becomes of the 14 team I will tell you that the 14 team will shut down.  But I'd bet if you looked at the 71P this weekend or whenever it races again it would look identical to the 14 except for color scheme.  Dietz never had a dime invested and was getting paid to oversee it is all.  Just like last year with the 71P (Indy race parts team) last year with Bernie overseeing it.  Dietz Motorsports was name only and was all owned by the PPM family.  So for now, or should I say still is, PPM is driving the family owned car, only as the 71P this time.  

Macedo is most likely bringing big money to the JJR 41 team next year, something Gravel cannot or will not do, which is how the 41 team will keep going.  

Gravel will most likely end up in the Quiring 2 car.  Not sure where this leaves Shane.

Thats my 2 cents.  Let's see how accurate it turns out?



I have heard the same about Macedo  bringing a few hundred thousand dollars too

Kind of dissatisfied with Dietz and Gravel parting , Gravel is great on equipment and is very talented 

wishing everyone a safe 2021  race season no matter where they end up




sprintcarkelly
October 18, 2020 at 09:54:31 PM
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I am confused, why would KLR be closing up if Kyle gets a Nascar ride for next year and can afford to fund the team? As much as I want Kyle to stay racing sprint cars, I think he needs the money he would make from racing Nascar to be able to fund the 2 team. I think there all these rumors, but until something is official who knows what is going on next year in the sprint car world and also Nascar rides that are open. What is for sure he has turned one of the worst days of his life into one of his best careers of racing sprint cars and traveling with his family! Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom to realize what is important in life and then you learn from your mistakes and make the best of your life. Kyle is a good guy, he made a mistake, and in my opinion should be forgiven. 


Looking forward to the new Golden State King of the 
West series schedule! 

Winged sprintcars = the fastest and most exciting 
racecars on dirt! 

rdr116y
October 19, 2020 at 12:04:44 AM
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If I remember correctly  the 41 car was Carsons to have  before Gravel was even thought of .. the problem was Carson had all ready inked a deal to drive the 2 car  so i feel it was only a matter of time ....also I am thinking it might be that Joe Gaerte might have decided he was tired of being on the road,, thus if the 2 keeps going there will be a need for a new crew chief,,,,,,





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