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kooks
January 09, 2017 at 08:32:52 PM
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Posted By: Green18 on January 08 2017 at 11:50:48 PM

He did sponsor the 410 class and put up the $10,000 to win money for about 5 years before he bought the place.  Might not automatically make him the worlds biggest race fan, but I don't think it rules out the possibility that he is/was/is a race fan who currently has more at stake than just a race track Right now. 



Advertisement for his cash cow in front a target audience.



SDDTRF67
January 10, 2017 at 09:54:57 AM
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Posted By: kooks on January 09 2017 at 08:32:52 PM

Advertisement for his cash cow in front a target audience.



It wasn't 10k to win every Sunday night in those 5 years and he may have been in actual attendance a handfull of times, maybe in those 5 years. Hardly makes him a race fan.


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SDDTRF67
January 10, 2017 at 10:08:22 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on January 08 2017 at 06:41:31 PM

yep



I don't think he ever cared or does care about what the public thinks. His style and his self-promotion was/is over the top. To each their own.

If he would of took a more moderately paced and more financially sound approach to all the establishments he just closed, they may have done better?

I enjoy alot of the same music he seems to appreciate, but his pricing and the whole pushing of the VIP experiences at all venues was not in line with the rest of the midwest's pricing and definately had a WWE feel to it.

As I said many times before, burning cash cause he could and doing everything his way or the highway.

It will always be my opinion that IM21 just gave him a convenient place to put the blame for his own business model failings.

 


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Green18
January 10, 2017 at 07:37:28 PM
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Posted By: SDDTRF67 on January 10 2017 at 09:54:57 AM

It wasn't 10k to win every Sunday night in those 5 years and he may have been in actual attendance a handfull of times, maybe in those 5 years. Hardly makes him a race fan.



Never said it was $10k every night.  do you know for a fact that he was never there?  I wouldn't know cuz I can't ever afford VIP :-) 



RHC
January 14, 2017 at 01:37:47 PM
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Posted By: egras on December 29 2016 at 07:29:55 AM

Are there any updates on the attempted sale of Badlands?

 One would assume that we are approaching D-day as far as having any racing for the 2017 season, correct?  (whether it be new owners or current ownership starting things back up this spring-if he were bluffing that is)  



 

Official Statement from Badlands Motor Speedway

“There have been a few parties that have been spreading rumors that they have purchased Badlands Motor Speedway. We are confirming that there has been a lot of serious interest in the track and that we have had full pricing offers, but those who have said they are buying it thus far have not been able to close or come up with the money. Please don’t let these posers ruin it for everyone else and keep up the efforts to find great new owners for BMS. We will let everyone know immediately when it actually does sell and we appreciate all of the help spreading the word.”



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Posted By: RHC on January 14 2017 at 01:37:47 PM

 

Official Statement from Badlands Motor Speedway

“There have been a few parties that have been spreading rumors that they have purchased Badlands Motor Speedway. We are confirming that there has been a lot of serious interest in the track and that we have had full pricing offers, but those who have said they are buying it thus far have not been able to close or come up with the money. Please don’t let these posers ruin it for everyone else and keep up the efforts to find great new owners for BMS. We will let everyone know immediately when it actually does sell and we appreciate all of the help spreading the word.”



The ***T is getting deep about full price offers  GM



ryanhunsinger
January 14, 2017 at 04:13:36 PM
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Posted By: ginelmore on January 14 2017 at 04:06:24 PM

The ***T is getting deep about full price offers  GM



Sounds like there may be a bidding war heating up for Badlands lol



RHC
January 15, 2017 at 12:25:28 PM
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Posted By: ginelmore on January 14 2017 at 04:06:24 PM

The ***T is getting deep about full price offers  GM



+1

 



kooks
January 15, 2017 at 10:11:32 PM
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Posted By: ryanhunsinger on January 14 2017 at 04:13:36 PM

Sounds like there may be a bidding war heating up for Badlands lol



There may end up being a bidding war but it will end way below the asking price.

 

I seriously doubt there has even been 1 "serious" buyer for Wastelands at the asking price.

Serious buyers have money & financing to complete a deal, anyone that doesn't have the money lined up to close the deal is nothing more than a tire kicker.



SDDTRF67
January 17, 2017 at 08:51:57 AM
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Posted By: ginelmore on January 14 2017 at 04:06:24 PM

The ***T is getting deep about full price offers  GM



What I can not believe is that the statement used the word "posers" when describing it's potential buyers.

Oh there's some posing going on, you can believe that. LOL

I am sure it will get sold, probably not this season though and definately NOT for full asking price.

 


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FORD97
January 17, 2017 at 09:09:04 AM
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I truly hope there is sprint car racing in Brandon this year (On Sunday nights), but I fear if we don't hear something concrete by April 1, it's not going to happen this year.

The value will plummet if he lets the place sit idle and there is 0 chance he gets his full asking price. 


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StanM
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January 17, 2017 at 11:01:26 AM
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Posted By: FORD97 on January 17 2017 at 09:09:04 AM

I truly hope there is sprint car racing in Brandon this year (On Sunday nights), but I fear if we don't hear something concrete by April 1, it's not going to happen this year.

The value will plummet if he lets the place sit idle and there is 0 chance he gets his full asking price. 



If it sits idle too long support classes will find other options.  They're annoying to hard core Sprint fans but the new owner will need them.  Any time there's a closure or some kind of shakeup such as a sanction change they never go back to the way they were.  Another track could jump on the Sprint classes as well then it can be a problem luring them back.


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SDDTRF67
January 17, 2017 at 12:07:21 PM
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Posted By: StanM on January 17 2017 at 11:01:26 AM

If it sits idle too long support classes will find other options.  They're annoying to hard core Sprint fans but the new owner will need them.  Any time there's a closure or some kind of shakeup such as a sanction change they never go back to the way they were.  Another track could jump on the Sprint classes as well then it can be a problem luring them back.



I believe Park Jefferson added two classes of sprints to their 2017 program, but I do not think either is 410.

I believe IMCA Racesaver & ASCS 360 Rules class? Not 100% on that though.


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blazer00
January 17, 2017 at 12:56:37 PM
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Why doesn't he at lease entertain leasing the facility while it's up for sale? Leaving it sit idle is the stupidist thing he can do.( And before you "blazer haters" jump in....no I don't have the means to lease it!)  At least by leasing it he can get something back in the form of cash, and the primary maintenance will be taken care of. As it is now, it's a continuing expense for him with no return. And if he wants any kind of real offer, he better keep the appearance of the entire facility up as best he can.



StanM
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January 17, 2017 at 06:39:40 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on January 17 2017 at 12:56:37 PM

Why doesn't he at lease entertain leasing the facility while it's up for sale? Leaving it sit idle is the stupidist thing he can do.( And before you "blazer haters" jump in....no I don't have the means to lease it!)  At least by leasing it he can get something back in the form of cash, and the primary maintenance will be taken care of. As it is now, it's a continuing expense for him with no return. And if he wants any kind of real offer, he better keep the appearance of the entire facility up as best he can.



That ties in with what I said about retaining his core group of racers and fans.  Turn key means a lot more than facilities and equipment.  If it sits idle for a season or two it starts over with former racers and fans scattered in all directions.


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vande77
January 18, 2017 at 09:58:40 AM
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Posted By: StanM on January 17 2017 at 06:39:40 PM

That ties in with what I said about retaining his core group of racers and fans.  Turn key means a lot more than facilities and equipment.  If it sits idle for a season or two it starts over with former racers and fans scattered in all directions.



Totally agree.  Tony Moro said the same thing to the Iowa State Fair Fairboard when they decided to bulldoze the 1/2 mile this past fall/winter.

They have delusions that if they build a new track in 3-5 years that everyone will just come on back....



atoz promoters
January 19, 2017 at 09:57:17 AM
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Posted By: SDDTRF67 on January 17 2017 at 12:07:21 PM

I believe Park Jefferson added two classes of sprints to their 2017 program, but I do not think either is 410.

I believe IMCA Racesaver & ASCS 360 Rules class? Not 100% on that though.



Yes we can confirm that Park Jefferson has added both racesaver and 360 sprints for Saturday nights.  The 360 rules will followASCS rules and are on the website at www.parkjeff.com.  



Fireman
January 20, 2017 at 10:05:47 AM
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OK - I have a question, is Park Jefferson the track that sits beside the interstate??? Last time that I was by that track looked like maybe a 1/4 mile pretty high banked (from what I could see driving about 80mph).

THANK YOU



FORD97
January 20, 2017 at 10:17:27 AM
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Posted By: Fireman on January 20 2017 at 10:05:47 AM

OK - I have a question, is Park Jefferson the track that sits beside the interstate??? Last time that I was by that track looked like maybe a 1/4 mile pretty high banked (from what I could see driving about 80mph).

THANK YOU



You're thinking of Interstate Speedway. Park Jeff is just behind it.


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RHC
January 20, 2017 at 11:56:11 AM
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Posted By: FORD97 on January 20 2017 at 10:17:27 AM

You're thinking of Interstate Speedway. Park Jeff is just behind it.



It's called Raceway Park now instead of Interstate Speedway.





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