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revjimk
June 07, 2012 at 04:19:13 PM
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Posted By: Some Guy In Texas on June 04 2012 at 08:13:01 PM
Do people go to NFL games to meet Peyton Manning? Do people go to Laker games to meet Kobe Bryant? Do you get a lot of face time with Jeff Gordon before or after races on race day? Undoubtedly you spent an hour with Dario before he earned #3, right? Why do so many sprint car fans go to the races solely for the post-race meeting with a driver after they've just worked their butt off for hours??????? If that isn't why they went... what are we whining about? Boo hoo... life didn't go your way and your heroes aren't perfect. NO KIDDING? Donny isn't perfectly charming after working his tail off? I'm shocked. Amazing. Next thing they'll be saying water is wet or something else totally crazy. Yes, quite a few drivers could use a little more congeniality but they're racing for their on-track skills more than their off-track skills. Our world is different today... the pits aren't what they were when I was growing up. The cool drivers are outnumbered by the ones that aren't IMO. Who cares... I love what they do on the track. If internet whiners would try that attitude a little more often maybe it would be a little better place that we live in with more folks in the sprint car fans in the stands.


Totally agree. Why do people expect to be friends with these guys? Risking their lives for our entertainment is plenty for me. Being a nice guy is extra credit!



jackhole22
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June 08, 2012 at 01:44:59 AM
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Fight for real dirt racing! As much as I can kinda hate, to say the word hate,? Oh, Man I am going to saying it and want to love it! 360 racing is it!!! ENOUGH, BS in 410-?


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sprint777x
June 08, 2012 at 01:34:36 PM
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I think many of you need to take a serious look at yourselves. If you don't like how you are treated, don't buy the guy's merchandise, don't pay to see a race, whatever...but quit complaining like a bunch of eight year olds. The problem with most of the people on here is that you are hooked on racing just like someone on crack and you can't be rational about it. In fact, many of you take pride in that very fact.

If you don't think you are getting value for your money or feel you are being dissed, then find something else to do where you get your money's worth. It's supply and demand and the American way.

Heck, tell O'Bama and he can have a summit where you can voice your concerns. Just something else for that goofy Kenyan to do while trying to make our lives better.




kmossman
June 08, 2012 at 02:50:53 PM
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Posted By: sprint777x on June 08 2012 at 01:34:36 PM

I think many of you need to take a serious look at yourselves. If you don't like how you are treated, don't buy the guy's merchandise, don't pay to see a race, whatever...but quit complaining like a bunch of eight year olds. The problem with most of the people on here is that you are hooked on racing just like someone on crack and you can't be rational about it. In fact, many of you take pride in that very fact.

If you don't think you are getting value for your money or feel you are being dissed, then find something else to do where you get your money's worth. It's supply and demand and the American way.

Heck, tell O'Bama and he can have a summit where you can voice your concerns. Just something else for that goofy Kenyan to do while trying to make our lives better.



We are finding other things to do. And so are many others. I live in Oklahoma where it wouldn't be a normal month if a dirt track didn't shut down. Think about it -- there is no track in OKC or Tulsa. Is that related solely to driver behavior? Hardly, but more and more of these venues are deemed as unnecessary or business failures due to a lack of support. Since that's the case, shouldn't everyone associated with racing work on collective solutions to make the sport more fan friendly? Look around at the other sports and the extremes they go to in involving the fan. Your rationale is tired thinking from a time when dirt tracks, national dirt series and even our economy were thriving. Those days are gone and so should be that kind of approach to fan interaction. It's bad business to tell people to pack up if they don't like it, and there isn't one person working in customer service, at a successful business anyway, who would embrace that kind of nonsense.


"I'd pay $15 to watch a sprint car sit still."

lucasprintsfan
June 08, 2012 at 03:42:30 PM
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Posted By: kmossman on June 08 2012 at 02:50:53 PM

We are finding other things to do. And so are many others. I live in Oklahoma where it wouldn't be a normal month if a dirt track didn't shut down. Think about it -- there is no track in OKC or Tulsa. Is that related solely to driver behavior? Hardly, but more and more of these venues are deemed as unnecessary or business failures due to a lack of support. Since that's the case, shouldn't everyone associated with racing work on collective solutions to make the sport more fan friendly? Look around at the other sports and the extremes they go to in involving the fan. Your rationale is tired thinking from a time when dirt tracks, national dirt series and even our economy were thriving. Those days are gone and so should be that kind of approach to fan interaction. It's bad business to tell people to pack up if they don't like it, and there isn't one person working in customer service, at a successful business anyway, who would embrace that kind of nonsense.



Great post. I live in Fort Smith, Arkansas and used to spend quite a bit of time going to Tulsa and OKC for sprint car racing. I recently saw that Mid America Speedway in South Coffeyville, Oklahoma has shut down at least for the season. I used to make the three hour drive there 3-4 times per year for some good ASCS shows. Anything that tracks, drivers or anyone involved in the sport can do to create new fans or get more fans to the track would be something that will benefit all of us that care about the sport going forward.



MadManMadsen
June 10, 2012 at 11:46:45 PM
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I went to Huset's weekly show tonight. Dobmeier got tangled up in his heat and had to start at the back for the feature. He made it to 2nd and challenged for 1st. I took my cousin and his buddy (his first sprint car race), so we were hanging out in the pits waiting for the traffic to clear a little. We were hanging out by Lynton Jeffrey and McCarls cars. Then we overheard a guy talking bad about McCarl and saying something about how he sucks etc etc. He didn't realize (or maybe he did) that Austin McCarl was standing right behind him. Austin stuck up for his dad saying something like "Come on, you don't need to be saying things like that". The guy then replies to McCarl with something to the effect "You got passed by a guy that started in last and finished in 2nd, you have no room to talk." Then there was some arguing and the guy walked away telling his buddy that he "had to say something". And I could see that Austin was clearly upset about the ordeal.

My point? Yes, there are those of us that are respectful and stay out of the way and just try to get a shirt and maybe an autograph. But there are also those idiots who after a few drinks feel invincible and need to voice their opinion about everything. Drivers have to put up with the bad as well as the good. I'm not saying its okay for drivers to treat their fans poorly, but they do have to put up with guys like this on a regular basis too.




MSPN
June 11, 2012 at 09:08:00 AM
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The guy is very lucky that TMC wasn't around when he was running his mouth, it would not have ended nicely but properly.....



MandGRacing96
June 11, 2012 at 10:28:54 AM
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Posted By: MSPN on June 11 2012 at 09:08:00 AM

The guy is very lucky that TMC wasn't around when he was running his mouth, it would not have ended nicely but properly.....



Never had any problems with Schatz or Sammy being rude. Just dont bother them when they are busy with the crew and they have always been fine. Always thought Joey was sorta rude but who cares what I think. I wonder what fans would think if drivers got on these pages and posted how rude fans were?



MSPN
June 11, 2012 at 10:54:14 AM
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M and G, Joey is not rude at all, just another Soft-Spoken basically shy guy, not too different than Donny and Sammy. In my 15 or so years working with sprint car drivers the vast majority of them were the soft spoken, shier kind of guy, which is almost ironic when you think about what they are driving....




Twenty8
June 11, 2012 at 01:58:59 PM
Joined: 12/03/2004
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Posted By: kmossman on June 08 2012 at 02:50:53 PM

We are finding other things to do. And so are many others. I live in Oklahoma where it wouldn't be a normal month if a dirt track didn't shut down. Think about it -- there is no track in OKC or Tulsa. Is that related solely to driver behavior? Hardly, but more and more of these venues are deemed as unnecessary or business failures due to a lack of support. Since that's the case, shouldn't everyone associated with racing work on collective solutions to make the sport more fan friendly? Look around at the other sports and the extremes they go to in involving the fan. Your rationale is tired thinking from a time when dirt tracks, national dirt series and even our economy were thriving. Those days are gone and so should be that kind of approach to fan interaction. It's bad business to tell people to pack up if they don't like it, and there isn't one person working in customer service, at a successful business anyway, who would embrace that kind of nonsense.



Now tracks are closing because of Mean Drivers.



410show
June 11, 2012 at 07:09:36 PM
Joined: 03/12/2010
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Gas,Oil and Spoiled.


"Checker's or Wrecker's"

Save the Dirt Oval's around the globe and protect those
with
the passion that keep them in racing condition week in
and week out!

parra
June 13, 2012 at 03:25:53 AM
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My wife took our grandson to see Donny after a show and stood back as he was talking to his crew.He noticed them ,left his crew ,signed their T-shirt and sat talking to them for a good 5 to 10 minutes and couldn't have been nicer.Maybe a little bit of their agro is because of how you treat them.They are not our servants and race under enormous pressure so maybe a little bit of respect towards them will get the same back.




n halibrand
June 13, 2012 at 09:00:27 AM
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Posted By: dirtracefan21 on June 04 2012 at 04:23:43 PM

Definitely not the first post on this subject and definitely wont be the last! Ive heard of countless times when fathers would buy their kids a Donny Schatz shirt, go to have him sign it, and he acts colder than a day in Schatz's hometown of Fargo North Dakota in mid January! IMO, hes just an absolute asshole...a talented asshole but an asshole nontheless! He has never been fan friendly and never will be. Same goes with Sammy Swindell. They are both two peas in a pod. I just never understood how you could treat your fans like that. Now, if you are looking for really nice guys who will sign autographs until dawn, go visit Paul McMahan and Joey Saldana. Those guys realize its the fans who pay their bills!



Many moons ago I was married to a Sprint car driver from Cali....He was pretty good I would say..After the races we would be the last one to leave the track....Talking and signing and more talking.Boy he loved to talk.....Like he said without these folks and kid's I would not be here! Rest in peace Deano!





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