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larsonfan
November 09, 2023 at 03:47:08 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on November 09 2023 at 02:01:38 PM

This doesn't sound too good....

From TJ Slideways:

• It appears communication from the High Limit Series on some fronts needs to be improved drastically. Leading into the press conference I talked to two promoters with prominent All Star shows that had not received a single phone call from the High Limit Series during or after their acquisition of the All Stars. 

Early indications are neither of these tracks appear to be in the High Limit’s plans for 2024. It was my lead in question in the press conference, which Sweet responded to with a surprised reaction. 

“As far as promoters reaching out or talking. I feel like we’ve talked to, you know, hundreds of promoters. If they’re not reaching out to us, you know, we may be under the impression that they don’t want to race. But we feel like we’ve talked to, you know, seems like every track, you know, it just about the whole United States.”

Literally as Brad was saying this during the press conference, I was receiving a text from one of the promoters I inquired about confirming that nobody else on his staff received a call from the High Limit Series. 

This coming from a facility that had hosted multiple All Star Shows on traditional dates for a couple of decades even caught me off guard. On top of that the FAST Series, who has been contacted to take over Ohio Sprint Speedweek, had not reached out to this same promoter to discuss that series taking over the event.



And I'm sure there will be new tracks on the HL schedule that were never on previous All Star schedules/tours to begin with.

Everyone is now all of the sudden upset that the All Stars are "gone", yet I can remember All Star shows through the past couple of years that had half-empty stands. Where was all this sudden love and support for the All Stars then? Even one of the all-great central PA tracks dropped them this past season (Lincoln).

Give it a little time to work it's way out. Neither sanctioning series has even released their 2024 schedules yet. 

Finally, do people not think Tony Stewart would have sold the All Stars to someone else if Sweet/Larson hadn't bought it? Or did Sweet/Larson hold a gun to his head and force him to selll to them. Who's to say the next buyer in line wouldn't have been someone like Guy Webb?



dsc1600
November 09, 2023 at 03:58:01 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on November 09 2023 at 03:47:08 PM

And I'm sure there will be new tracks on the HL schedule that were never on previous All Star schedules/tours to begin with.

Everyone is now all of the sudden upset that the All Stars are "gone", yet I can remember All Star shows through the past couple of years that had half-empty stands. Where was all this sudden love and support for the All Stars then? Even one of the all-great central PA tracks dropped them this past season (Lincoln).

Give it a little time to work it's way out. Neither sanctioning series has even released their 2024 schedules yet. 

Finally, do people not think Tony Stewart would have sold the All Stars to someone else if Sweet/Larson hadn't bought it? Or did Sweet/Larson hold a gun to his head and force him to selll to them. Who's to say the next buyer in line wouldn't have been someone like Guy Webb?



Thanks Kyle.



larsonfan
November 09, 2023 at 04:08:32 PM
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This message was edited on November 09, 2023 at 04:18:12 PM by larsonfan
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Posted By: dsc1600 on November 09 2023 at 03:58:01 PM

Thanks Kyle.



Can't have a logical discussion, resort to smartass comments.

What track are you talking about specifically? Are you talking about a track that hosted a Speedweek race in the past? In Aaron's press release it was stated that all tracks who hosted a Speedweek race will be offerred a Speedweek race in 2024, and that several other tracks had expressed an interest in a Speedweek race should a date come open.

Sincerely, 

YungMoney




Michael_N
November 09, 2023 at 04:40:34 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on November 09 2023 at 03:47:08 PM

And I'm sure there will be new tracks on the HL schedule that were never on previous All Star schedules/tours to begin with.

Everyone is now all of the sudden upset that the All Stars are "gone", yet I can remember All Star shows through the past couple of years that had half-empty stands. Where was all this sudden love and support for the All Stars then? Even one of the all-great central PA tracks dropped them this past season (Lincoln).

Give it a little time to work it's way out. Neither sanctioning series has even released their 2024 schedules yet. 

Finally, do people not think Tony Stewart would have sold the All Stars to someone else if Sweet/Larson hadn't bought it? Or did Sweet/Larson hold a gun to his head and force him to selll to them. Who's to say the next buyer in line wouldn't have been someone like Guy Webb?



As long as the promoter made money and it was worth their effort it wouldn't matter how full the stands actually were. Maybe they only need 2000 butts in the stands to actually turn a profit. Byle (new buzzword for Brad and Kyle) bought the series, chopped it up into little pieces, kept the parts they wanted and are going to throw the rest in garbage. Tony isn't any better, he sold the ASCOC knowing this would be the end. 



dsc1600
November 09, 2023 at 06:10:29 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on November 09 2023 at 04:08:32 PM

Can't have a logical discussion, resort to smartass comments.

What track are you talking about specifically? Are you talking about a track that hosted a Speedweek race in the past? In Aaron's press release it was stated that all tracks who hosted a Speedweek race will be offerred a Speedweek race in 2024, and that several other tracks had expressed an interest in a Speedweek race should a date come open.

Sincerely, 

YungMoney



More from TJ Slideways....

If I were obtaining a business one of the first things I would want to do is to reach out to customers, even ones I didn’t plan on doing business with. No matter what other associations with other series or partners the track had, they deserved a much better line of communication. 

It’s clear that High Limit obtained the All Stars, pillaged the races they did want, and left the rest to fend for themselves. A smokescreen from the PR spin of farming out Ohio Sprint Speedweek provides some shielding from the fact that multiple events outside of Speedweek throughout the region the All Stars covered will be forced to promote a lesser-known brand or just go unsanctioned. 

For full disclosure I did pass on the contact information for both facilities to Sweet after the meeting, but it shouldn’t have taken me doing that to facilitate the communication taking place.

 

What say you Kyle?



revjimk
November 09, 2023 at 06:15:15 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on November 08 2023 at 10:49:47 PM

I live in central Pa and I prefer a regular show over a sanctioned show for one if you don't support the regular shows it might all go away and I'd rather spend less money and have just as good of a time. I don't need to see a "National Star" win from the front row.



I wish I could agree with you, but....

I live about a 4-5 hour drive from any of the Pa. tracks, so usually only go to the "bigger" shows

One time (when I was still in Colorado) I hit The Grove at exactly 7 PM, Friday, on my annual summer migration to the East Coast. Whoopie, says I... regular weekly show. I'm sorry to say it was kinda boring




larsonfan
November 09, 2023 at 06:58:06 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on November 09 2023 at 06:10:29 PM

More from TJ Slideways....

If I were obtaining a business one of the first things I would want to do is to reach out to customers, even ones I didn’t plan on doing business with. No matter what other associations with other series or partners the track had, they deserved a much better line of communication. 

It’s clear that High Limit obtained the All Stars, pillaged the races they did want, and left the rest to fend for themselves. A smokescreen from the PR spin of farming out Ohio Sprint Speedweek provides some shielding from the fact that multiple events outside of Speedweek throughout the region the All Stars covered will be forced to promote a lesser-known brand or just go unsanctioned. 

For full disclosure I did pass on the contact information for both facilities to Sweet after the meeting, but it shouldn’t have taken me doing that to facilitate the communication taking place.

 

What say you Kyle?



Nothing to say to you people who are deadset upon hating HL/FL/Sweet and Larson. Neither sanctioning body has released their schedules yet but that doesn't matter to you conspiracy theorists. Sprint car racing as we knew is done forever according to you. May it rest in peace. 

No wonder the modified (Northeast style) and late model people laugh at us. Nothing is ever good enough for you, and any type of change, even when it hasn't even played out in the slightest, is bad.

Not all change is bad. Nothing lasts forever - things change. Sorry. 

V/R,

YungMoney



dsc1600
November 09, 2023 at 07:36:34 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on November 09 2023 at 06:58:06 PM

Nothing to say to you people who are deadset upon hating HL/FL/Sweet and Larson. Neither sanctioning body has released their schedules yet but that doesn't matter to you conspiracy theorists. Sprint car racing as we knew is done forever according to you. May it rest in peace. 

No wonder the modified (Northeast style) and late model people laugh at us. Nothing is ever good enough for you, and any type of change, even when it hasn't even played out in the slightest, is bad.

Not all change is bad. Nothing lasts forever - things change. Sorry. 

V/R,

YungMoney



Not according to me, I am quoting Slideways. The half-ass plan to lease out Speedweeks shows is not a good sign, nor is them ignoring previous All Star promoters. But we'll see how it plays out. 



Murphy
November 09, 2023 at 09:01:11 PM
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Seems like if the AllStars are as big a thing in Ohio, etc. as people are saying, that some other group would come in and fill that void. That could be a new group, or an existing group. It could be in conjunction with H-L, or even in conjunction with WoO. 




sw1911
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Posted By: fiXXXer on November 08 2023 at 03:07:14 PM

This.



And napa is going to expect him to win that title. 


Within hearing distance of Tri City Speedway

beezr2002
November 10, 2023 at 07:53:15 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on November 09 2023 at 06:15:15 PM

I wish I could agree with you, but....

I live about a 4-5 hour drive from any of the Pa. tracks, so usually only go to the "bigger" shows

One time (when I was still in Colorado) I hit The Grove at exactly 7 PM, Friday, on my annual summer migration to the East Coast. Whoopie, says I... regular weekly show. I'm sorry to say it was kinda boring



The people who only go to the bigger shows are the reason many local fans stay away from the big shows. We just don't need all the hype and BS to enjoy a night at the races.



PeteP
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Maybe 410 IRA will expand to fill the holes if there are any.




racrfan
November 10, 2023 at 09:09:17 AM
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Posted By: sw1911 on November 10 2023 at 06:16:14 AM

And napa is going to expect him to win that title. 



I am a HUGE Kyle Larson fan, but!!! He took away a lot of the big money from his own series this past year. Now they add Brad Sweet driving, as well. How much of that big money is going to be taken by the pair of owners. If this happens, how long are they going to attract good cars from any distance?  Drawing fans will be OK paying the larger ticket prices until the number of cars begins to disappear perhaps. It just doesn't seem right that these guys start their own series and then attempt to monopolize the payout. 



longtimefan
November 10, 2023 at 09:28:42 AM
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Posted By: Racehead on November 08 2023 at 04:16:59 PM

Did you complain when Stewart raced with the All Stars. 



Tony never raced enough to take the point money from the guys who recruited to run for the point money.



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November 10, 2023 at 09:48:39 AM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on November 08 2023 at 08:39:51 AM

I've noticed there's been very little said from them about the fans. I see a lot of talk about more money for the teams and "advancing the sport" but very little said about the fans. I see that so much from the Larson cultists on social media....."advancing the sport"......exactly where are they advancing it to by running a new series similar to the one that already exists with similar purses, similar point fund, the same exact rules package (bet ya Kyle and Brad won't think twice about pocketing that Hoosier money), racing at tracks that already exist and mostly sanctioning races that have already existed for quite some time? I don't see any advancement of the sport. I see some people unhappy with the current series building their own sandbox and putting more money in THEIR pockets. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that. Business is business. But so many people seem to think that this deal is being created as a humanitarian cause to save everyone from the big meanie World of Outlaws when in reality, all they're doing is creating their own idea of what the World of Outlaws should be and benefitting from it themselves. I guess the need for high paying midweek races only existed for one season?



One of the biggest selling points dating way back to 1978 is being able to guarantee that their drivers will all show up.  If High Limit does not provide that to fans and they get burned by drivers not showing they're missing one of the biggest selling points to promoters.  On the other hand, if they have contracted drivers like the Outlaws has anything really changed.

Most fans base their schedules around events and not the series name on the banners.  We know the Nationals, Kings Royal, Ironman, and all the other big shows are locked into their dates.  Fans know about what weekend the Outlaws are going to make a stop at their local track.  Aside from a few All Star dates that came with the purchase of the series nobody knows what the High Limit schedule will look like yet. 

I have seen a lot of clubs and sanctions come and go since 1960.  When things like this come up my first inclination is to yawn and think "here we go again".  Fortunately in spite of sixty three years of change the cars still go fast on dirt and turn left.  I suspect that when all is said and done that will still be the case.


Stan Meissner


Parnelli1970
November 10, 2023 at 10:29:17 AM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on November 10 2023 at 07:53:15 AM

The people who only go to the bigger shows are the reason many local fans stay away from the big shows. We just don't need all the hype and BS to enjoy a night at the races.



They are also the ones who tell you paying 45 bucks per ticket is no big deal because you get to see the "stars" race.



revjimk
November 10, 2023 at 11:45:49 AM
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Posted By: beezr2002 on November 10 2023 at 07:53:15 AM

The people who only go to the bigger shows are the reason many local fans stay away from the big shows. We just don't need all the hype and BS to enjoy a night at the races.



I don't go for the "hype & BS". I go to see a bunch of top flight teams & drivers

Sorry to drive away any local fans.... wink

I just watch the race, cheer & buy stuff. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face!



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November 10, 2023 at 12:41:20 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on November 10 2023 at 10:29:17 AM

They are also the ones who tell you paying 45 bucks per ticket is no big deal because you get to see the "stars" race.



I'm the oddball. I'd rather watch 24 small, relatively unknown drivers put on a good race program than pay more to watch some name brand "stars" pretty much decide the outcome of the feature during time trials.  Yes- I know they're not all like that, but you have to admit that the majority are. 





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