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Depending on the test used and how long after exposure the possibility of a false negative is more than 30%  https://www.clinicaloncology.com/COVID-19/Article/07-20/False-Negatives-Found-If-COVID-19-Testing-Done-Too-Soon/58781

In Texas too... my wife was sick for almost a week, flu like symptoms but one never knows. So she got tested at a local CVS last Friday, results first thing on Tuesday.  4 days, not a horrible wait and she was negative.

I'm not sure why you're not seeing the press releases they have been releasing as the situation develops.  The most recent one summarizes what has happened and reinstituted some of the protocols from earlier in the season.  Temps taken and screening, masks, no fans in the pits after the races and a reminder to remain cautious.  I don't envy the Outlaws who are trying to balance the realities of our current situation with a mostly skeptical fan base who consider it as a flu and a hoax.  That is the reason I'm staying clear of the tracks at my age, the tracks for the most part are taking precautions but it has become obvious that the entire fan base is never going to be on board.  Some take it serious but many never will.  This is why I floated the idea of a section set aside for the older fans but in retrospect that probably isn't enough to lure me back.

On a positive note I am looking forward to Grand Forks tonight.  I have only been there once around 2009 when I took photos and watched that hornets nest from the infield.  Dollansky was driving the nine car and won it that night.  That place is crazy and always great racing.  

Stan Meissner

Breast  cancer screens come back positive when they are negative, and the reverse. Same with prostate test and numerous others.  No test is even close to 100%. 

Besides, the timeline seems too short to be affected by Knoxville.

Good news is he was negative and hopefully feeling better.

Not to put soft Peter on the obvious hard on you have against the WoO but one WoO driver is not several of their drivers and sorry they didn't personally tag you in their numerous updates they have posted.   

So what is your point?  Are you saying that the tests of those who have announced they have Covid are false positives?  The ones who tested positive tested when they got home so the testing systems of probably four or five states were likely involved.  For example the track worker Iowa, Knutson and crew Minnesota, Kinser Indiana, McMahon Pennsylvania and probably a few more.  They're not all using the same tests and they all produced the same results for a diverse group that shared a weekend together in the same location.

To put it another way, I trust the judgement of the Knoxville Raceway and World of Outlaws more than your opinion.  What other point would there to argue the validity of the tests than reinforce your own denial?  You sir, are one of the reasons I won't be going anywhere near a race track for the remainder of this season.

Stan Meissner

Short time line is what I was wondering also. chances or it started the weekend before for Darin and paul and Kraig

The estimated incubation period is 1-14 days so it definitely isn't outide the realm of possibility they got it while in Knoxville.

Why is it always somebody else's fault.  I chose not to go because of the risks. Everybody that went knew  what the risks were. 

Everybody needs to grow up and take responsibility for there own actions.  People that were not at Knoxville got Covid too. Is it still Knoxville's or the outlaws fault?

Everyone could have worn masks and taken other precautions. Most chose not to.

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Just because Corona virus is out there doesn't mean that everyone who gets sick has it.    You can still get a cough, cold, or sore throat like happens to most people during the course of a year.   The other common illnesses didn't disappear with the onset of Corona.   Glad your buddy is negative, and hopefully you don't have any issues.  

One thing that I have read here that made no sence to me was allowing fans in the pits after the races at Knoxville. Why in these times do fans feel the need to get an autograph. I go races and some on here get bent about that but I do not increase my exposure to people more than needed. When a driver goes past me on the track when I am on the grandstand that is as close as I need to be to them or them to me. As for false negatives or positives it seems that the quick test is not all that accurate, no matter the result it might be a good idea to do the test that takes longer. As far negative tests are concerned, everyone who gets sick does not have Covid19. Just because this virus showed up all the other bugs that we have always gotten did not disappear. This is going to be even more of an issue as the normal cold and flu season approaches. We were at the tail end of that when this was getting going.

I went 5 days of racing out of 7 and I'm still here and kicking. Can't get rid of me that easy People get sick from diverse gatherings and almost always recover. (Chili Bowl Flu?) This is nothing new we just track and test it now where before people said picked up something and hang low for two days then back at life status quo. It's obviously pretty contagious so sure be careful if you desire but it shouldn't be life altering. Try and go buy appliances right now. Everything is on back order because people stopped working with so many excuses to no longer have to do things they don't want to and the money still comes in. We're gonna have to push forward pre vaccine no matter what to keep this country running and resources at our fingertips. If not be prepared for massive shortages and civil unrest. Knoxville did their best to limit risk. Who is to say it happened at Knoxville or even at the track. Likely it happened outside the track which is no fault of the event as your life outside of the gates is on you. 
 

Hey rev : HOAX Your so easy to get worked up. I hope you find peace and comfort in your life yet as being so wound up has to be taxing on a guy.

There is some confusion about the incubation period.  When this thing first hit they didnt have enough hard data to pinpoint some of these things and based recommendations on past experience and what they knew at the outset.  Now it has become clear and been reported that the typical onset of symptoms takes place within two to five days with fourteen being the far end of the spectrum and uncommon for it to take that long to manifest. Some places have reacred by adjusting that time down to ten days instead of fourteen.  

Some are speculating and that perhaps they got it the week before in Peveley but Minnesota Driver Tori Knutdson tested positive and she only runs Knoxville and select shows in Minnesota and western Wisconsin.  There are other examples but that one is one of the most obvious.  I think what we're seeing here is some of the deniers running up against the reality that under the right conditions Covid spreads faster than a shoe full of dog shit on a new carpet.

Stan Meissner

Actually, I just found out this morning from a co-worker that we do have rapid testing in the Dallas area if you're willing to pay for it.    Up in Farmers Branch, which is a northern suburb of Dallas, they have a historical park that is currently set up as a drive through site.   If you're willing to pay $150 you can get results in 15 minutes.   If I suspected I might have it, I would gladly pay that.   It's a little more than the $80 that Stan mentioned for Minnesota, but a small price to pay to know for sure.    He did say that hardly anyone was there.  

A shoe full of dog shit on a new carpet....LMAO    Thanks for that one Stan! 

My how the general COVID attitude has changed here since many can now "see it from their house"!

Remember, its just as likely that someone with no symptoms can carry it around, and if/when they do show symptoms, they may have already spread it around.

So, who knows how many got it at Knoxville?

Who knows who got it a Knoxville and took it somewhere else? - like Williams Grove on Friday night, then someone at the Grove takes it to Lincoln on Saturday night, and someone else takes it to Port. Then maybe they catch-on to it...and it all gets shutdown.

PA racing is on thin ice. Officials are ignoring it. One case shows up and they will ignore no more.

I'm hoping that the publicity from Pittman, McMahan, and Kinser's crew will get the attention of sprint car fans all across the nation, as well as some fans testing positive.  I saw plenty of race fans being careless at the All Star show at Devils Bowl in June.   Hearing the descriptions of crowds at Dingus and crowds waiting for the pit gates to open after the races, you'd like to think people would know better.   Maybe they don't know or just don't care, but maybe now they'll take notice.   

I just got back from getting tested. I called my manager yesterday as our company's policy is that the you like us to speak to our direct manager if we know that we have come into contact with anyone that has tested positive for Covid. I spoke to her and explained the situation as we were around Paul & Kraig Friday and told her I was fine with anything that they wanted me to do (I am working from home already & have to do 2wk quarantine anyway due to traveling out of state) and she said that it is not mandatory but would probably be best to get tested and gave me some numbers to our employee care people. After about 3mins on the phone, was able to get an appointment at a clinic this morning, test did not hurt other than making your eyes water a little bit, was in and out and should have results by Sunday or Monday they said which isn't a huge deal to me. 

To clarify, I am not concerned about getting it as I do not have any symptoms and feel fine. I was not forced to take one and did not feel the need but went ahead and did so out of respect of my co-workers in which some do have pre existing repiratory conditions. 

Interesting Nick, I hope you're negative and if you're OK with it let us know.  

Who said the test was wrong?  I know a bunch of people who got tested with the exact symptoms.  Strep throat, mono, urinary tract infection, stomach flu.................still a lot of other stuff going around causing people to be "sicker than shit."  That's why I laugh when I hear someone say "I'm pretty sure I had it already last October".........no, no you didn't.