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TK finishing the season in a 14 car, don't know if I can believe this news or not. Until I see any car with the digit combination of 1s and 4s at the race track, I will assume they're fake race cars and don't exist. Might have to touch a wing panel Saturday to make sure they aren't doing a hologram like they did for Tupac.

Its the Tony Stewart 14 for TK, not Dietz's 14

Yes, that was the joke "a 14 car"

Well from what they made it sound at the beginning of the year the 14 team was a siibling for the fact of PPM filling in for Gravel when he was racing trucks. Now all of a sudden she is brining in a driver who has not been in the mix all year. As of right now Carson might be the better choice for the reasons of hes done the tour and had more experience. Rumor has it hes also bringing alot of money along with him. Also could also be part of the decision for him to be the driver next year. PPM is young only 21 i think. The kids got talent he needs some more experience at track hes not used to and hell be one of the most competetive guys out there. For not being a "full time outlaw" hes still competing with the best of them.

Dietz has announced that as if this week, they have split with PPM. No announcement regarding the future of the 14 team

I bet they're real bothered lol

also noted PPM LLC was the "team name" used last year when he ran in the 71P

PPM 21 years old 11 th in points as a rookie on the tour. I doubt he is disappointed with any of the above.

There is a chance that PPM is OK with Shane Stewart  driving the 41. Perhaps he is humble enough to admit SS gives JJR a better chance than PPM does. I dunno. There is so much talked about at breakfast behind closed doors the whole thing might be everyone changing plans and everyone happy and everyone excited about the future cause it's best for all to go seperate ways.

Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!

From what gathered at the beginning of the year the 14car was Phillip Dietz pet project as Gravel had said on his YouTube channel that Deitz was looking to get into ownership and/or driving. Yes the assumption that was probably made by some was that Parker would be the driver in the 41 when Gravel did the trucks but I never felt anything was set in stone, nor did it seem like Parker was to be the guy who took over the 41 if Gravel moved on. I always took it that the 14 was a separate entity of the 41 with Bobbi/JJR being uninvolved in it for the most part, and the decision of who to put in the 41 was up to her since she just owned that car, not both the 41 & 14. Some people seem to think that JJR owned both 41 & 14 when that is not true nor was it made out that way from the start.

As for next year, between Carson & PPM I would pick Carson. I get some people get a little miffed that he brings money to the table but the kid has talent too. I watched both of them race here in Ohio a lot while they were racing with the All Stars or around the region and I would give the edge to Carson. Not a dig a Parker just simple observation and that is not to say that Parker won't get better eventually as he has proven himself capable this year doing what he is doing

I think that might be a little overly sensative thinking that they killed credibility based on a decal. For one, I do not know why some people are thinking that JJR owned the 14 as well. That was never ever stated other than the fact their was a "percieved" affiliation considering Phillip was still the crew chief of the 41. That right their for me takes JJR out of the equation as the same person did not own both cars. As far as Phillip Dietz himself in the matter, yeah the car had a decal on it but the hauler (as of Knoxville at least) had PPM Motorsports on it as it did at the beginning of the season since they posted a video of both haulers leaving to go to Knoxville for the fanless race.

Also, from what I remember they never intended to run the whole schedule at the beginning of the year, just 35-40races according to the press release. That just came along once the schedule kept changing and doing what it did due to circumstances. As a matter of fact, wasn't both Parker and Gio relieved from their duties with the 71 cars earlier this year due to taking rides without telling the owner thinking they would just run both cars? So if anyone's credibility is lost it would have been Parker's (although its not because its racing & busines). I don't find anything that was done was deceptive and if anyone finds that it was then do not go out in the real world because if you think a sprint car partnership with a car having a sticker on it but labeled in the organization was deceptive, holy crap will you be in for a shock.

As far as the relationship itself it was just a partnership. Whatver the sticker says and what it is listed is a moot point. It was never intended to run the whole year so I am sure that it was listed under PPM rather than Dietz as part of the agreement, as well as all other handlings going on with the partnership. One things for sure it was not a JJR car, just had a loose affiliation due to a member of that team.

Again, the "partnership" could have been solely based on how much money he brought with him (PPM).

I believe the hauler; as well as the car had Chalkstik written all over it which was started by PPM's Dad.  And I for one think that if Dietz came along with the deal; good for them. 

I do agree the only affiliation with JJR was Mr. Dietz and maybe a handshake that PPM would fill in for Gravel if the truck deal happened like it was supposed to; bc. (before covid). 

And now...... it looks like Gravel will be in the 14 on Friday.

(shrug) I don't know....

One question. Why have you been so irritated at everything throughout the thread?

More deception! When will it end?!?!?

Just received a Speedsport.com article that explains it from PPM's observations....

Ok. You're entitled to your opinion.

But damn, if you get this wound up over the announcement of a driver lineup for a team you have no financial or occupational stake in, you must have went full "Menendez" on your parents when they told you there was no Santa Claus.

Nothing from what I have seen means it's part of JJR. Only part of it that is part of JJR is the fact the crew chief of JJR is the owner of the 14. Also means that apparently Deitz does own equipment and the 14 and not all of it was PPM motorsports. Another thing that it means is they made an agreement with a driver (Shane Stewart) and they are not going to back out of that agreement. They also had an agreement with another driver (PPM), they apparently didn't like the current agreement & decided to find another deal (perfectly fine also). There was a schedule change to Gravel's schedule, he's available, the 14 is there he can run it. 

Nothing deceptive about it, just business. According to the article in Speed Sport, PPM said he the had wanted some changes or things to be different, whatever that means. Really there was a lot of words but not a lot of context behind it. It's Dietz's business apparently, he can choose what to &not change. No deception from anyone, especially on JJR side. 

Wait so is Parker Price Miller paying David Gravel to run in "his" car operated by Phillip Dietz with all of the sponsors from the JJR group not named Chalkstix?

Everyone needs to listin to Bobbi talking with Wade on the knoxville facebook page  some insight on what went down and what is going on in 2021 seems the team is not for sale but going to be different in 2021 with Jax wanting to play basketball and baseball ... i take it as Phil going to run the 41 team and Bobbi not going to be involved as much .... might be tottaly wrong just my opinion ....I say Macedo to the 41 with sponsors in tow  .......

You did it again!

HH's "Comedian of the Year"!

Good question....

Let them work it out & we'll watch whoever drives whatever car...