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Correct and incorrect.  You can "tell" anyone you want.  If it's a coworker, I would think long and hard about putting their personal information on social media----true or not true.  

Also, there are no rules about what you can and cannot file a lawsuit over.  If you spread information about someone, and it affects their business or livelihood as a result for example, I'm not saying they would win, but they could sue you. It is best to keep all "rumors" about someone's health to yourself.  Especially when dealing with this current issue.  

Everyone knows or has heard of friends and relatives going to work, feeling sick after they get there and being sent home and ordered to get a Covid test.  Thinking about this a bit more pretty much everyone in the US is working under that requirement.  If he was out in the work force he'd have been called on the carpet if they found out he felt sick and didn't tell anyone.  I'm retired so some of you working people can fill in the blanks but those are the types of things I'm hearing from the family and friends.  Or to put my concerns another way, I'm a grandpa with seven grandkids who I have taken to races and stood by while they got autographs.  I'm imagining myself taking one of the grandkids, they get an autograph and "an unexpected gift" from their favorite driver and pass that gift onto me on our drive home. 

Yesterday's complaints about having to stream racing channels and not being able to watch live races at the track have given way to a renewed desire to watch from home for the rest of the season.  Now we need to know if all of these individuals were together in a nearby enclosed space that starts with a D.  You know what I'm talking about, the kind of place where people drink alcohol and stand nose to nose and shout at each other as drunks are prone to do.  Someone said it wasn't actually a photographer but a videographer for Dirtvision who was up on the roof during the races.  We know that it's pretty safe outdoors and we have seen very few incidents of infection attributable at the races.  It will be interesting to see how many more we hear about in the next few days and what their routine was.  It's not a foregone conclusion that it happened at a track but every time another name pops up that was in the same place it prompts further questions. 

Anyways, I'm cool with strearming races for the rest of the summer, even the one I didn't want to miss. 

Stan Meissner

I know of a few people from different groups that fell ill after Knoxville and are awaiting test results. While social distancing was pretty well managed in the grandstands, the mob waiting at the pit gate at the end of each night was pretty ugly. As well as the T-shirt trailers, food lines, and at times - the restrooms. The Dingus was pretty well packed too.

Overall, Knoxville should be commended for their efforts. They constantly were reminding folks to stay away from other groups and there were signs posted everywhere. Ultimately, its up to individual people to social distance and be mindful of others around them and that's where the problems start.

My buddy and I both got tested upon arriving home. Waiting on results still.  While I'm not sick, my buddy is real sick. My symptoms are merely a loss of taste and smell. Keep in mind we didn't do the bar thing like normal, pretty much kept to ourselves at the track and the campsite, and wore masks everywhere except our campsite and race track. Realistically, we probably messed up by going into the pits with the rest of the mob Friday night and that's probably where we came in contact with it if we indeed test positive.

In closing, ultimately I don't blame anyone for it happening. It was a risk we assumed by attending and we really made an effort to do it the right/safe way. Stuff happens.

Add members of Kraig Kinsers team as well per team Facebook page

We're talking HIPAA here. I have no connection to any kind of healthcare provider in any fashion - I am not subject to HIPAA.

Of course anyone can sue anyone. SLAPP-style lawsuits have been a thing forever. I don't disagree with your last point either but again, I was specifically talking about people not having a clue what HIPAA actually is and who it applies to.

This is getting ugly real fast.  Hoping that all recover without any long term effects.  

Stan Meissner

Just saw a post on my Facebook page from Minnesota driver Tori Knutson.  Her and a crew member have tested positive as well.  

Stan Meissner

You are absolutely right egras.  That little google app tracks you and provides all that up-to-date traffic info.  The FB covid app isn't anything special at all, just one more level of annoying.

Contacat tracing has been used for all sorts of pandemics.  I first heard of the terms' use when discussing Ebola and how to curtail the spread and identify where the outbreak started.  Nothing new, just getting a lot of pub right now.

My wife and I just came back from a 10 day trip to Knoxville and Osky, spending all 10 nights at the Motel in Pella during the week. We did our best to social distance as much as we could while still enjoying the races, wineries, breweries and golf. Upon our arrival back to our hometown I starting feeling a little under the weather and was running a fever. I went to see my doctor and his only preceription was more "Cow Bell"

No such thing as bad press...So they say... https://sports.yahoo.com/two-world-outlaws-sprint-car-193027542.html

Member of this message board since 1997

Everyone mentioned as having positive Covid tests has made it public knowledge through social media and press releases.  I'm not sure what the point of arguing privacy laws is. .if we heard it before it was announced and shared the information that would be wrong but if it's a public knowledge.there isn't any problem letting people know.  Its a good thing to know as the impression has been that there haven't been any problems at the races.  Now we know that it can and does appear to have happened at an outdoor event. .I for.one was.close.to attending a race but this has reinforced my resolve tomsit this season out.  Now we should hope that everybody affected comes through this without any lasting problems and hope next year is better.

Stan Meissner

I think the whole privacy laws thing snowballed from the original post & press release simply stating "a platinum driver/member have tested positive." The concern was that they had a responsiblity to make it public as to who it was so anyone who had been in contact can take action. Then it was stated that any any effort to cover it up is irresponsible.

I replied that they are most likely, and after looking into, are not allowed legally to disclose who said driver or individual is so they are not covering anything up. They only thing that they are allowed to say legally is to say an employee/member had tested positive.

As you said the driver(s) have all posted and made it public knowledge now after that fact which they are allowed to do since it is their private medical information. We were just explaining as to why the Outlaws, Knoxville, Teams, and any other company (track, sanctioning body, owner) is going to say "a member of insert organization has tested positive" instead of stating. "it has come to our knowledge Daryn Pittman, Kraig Kinser, insert crew members names have tested positive for covid." They will not be doing the latter because of the law and it is against those individuals rights. Those individuals are free to release that information all they want since it is their own information. Any person is free to disclose any and all medical history they want but no one else which includes family, friends, employer, or the girl that may have given them that burning sensation when they peed back in their Navy days.

Given all the fans that have come out as tested positive and drivers this might be a wrap for the WOO for awhile.  While I am of the belief that the mortality rate is closer to the flu than not; it is scary how easily and quickly this thing spreads and in some they never show symptoms.  Best wishes to all and stay well. 

You are correct.  HIPAA is very clear.  The rest is very gray.  And no, you are not obligated by law to keep what information you received to yourself.  

I got what you are saying

Thanks Nick

You had to mention her. 

Stan Meissner

Hope that they all get over it with their health intact

Sad to see one poster still pushing  the "overblown & over-hyped" BS

At least he didn't say "hoax"

I NEVER want to hear that word again

Was at K-ville, hung out everywhere just as usual. A buddy of mine got sicker than shit on Sunday called into work on Monday his work made him go get tested and he came back negative had all the symptoms. So to me how good are all these tests???

Seems a little pathetic that the Outlaws have been silent on this whole deal letting Knoxville take the brunt of the heat with the statement they released. It was an Outlaw show, several of their drivers tested positive, and yet they don't release anything? We know that the Outlaws don't really care at all about the tracks let alone the drivers as long as they make their money but just seems a little ridiculous. This kind of thing could make headlines across the country but it will be Knoxville taking the blame rather than the Outlaws who are busy promoting their next events.