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FORD97
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Posted By: spot1 on May 19 2017 at 08:45:44 AM

So says the biggest piece of shit on this message board. Yes, it pisses me off that another race track has decided to close for good. It should upset you but you're only a fan of you and not the sport, asshole.

If you think Jay Masur was completely innocent in this deal, I feel for you. Jay has damn good people working for him and they make him look good.

Why was Matt Juhl at Knoxville? Why do you think? He's running for points dipshit. Same thing with Lynton, I'll bet. What's real funny here is now seeing you stick up for the Wild Wings cars, oh, that's good you two-faced sob.

Also, I'll bet the crowd at Badlands last Saturday night was more than attended Knoxville. BTW, I walked into the track Saturday night at 6 PM and Med-Star was nowhere to be seen. They didn't show for another 30-45 minutes. Maybe they had a backyard bar-b-que to be at, who knows. They were late. I know what I saw and you are the one that has no clue here, as normal.

Never have said one word to Chuckie and, yes, I think he throws a lot of hissy-fits. But, take a look..........he announces a 2018 schedule and all he sees on this fucking board is bitching about it. We all know how you'd respond if you were in the same shoes.

Why don't you just go back under your bridge or rock or whereever you slither out from?



Yet another profanity-laced temper tantrum. You should really get some help.

You want to take the Lynton bet? He had plans to have a car at Knoxville all year, not to necessarily drive it there all year. Words straight from his mouth. He was going to race Huset's but changed his mind. Also, I am in no way "sticking up for" the Wild Wings car. I'm merely suggesting you get your head out of your ass as quickly as they have. I'm not sure what 10th in points pays at Knoxville, but I'm pretty sure points aren't the consideration for Juhl.

Let's also dive a little further into the Med Star situation, since you seem to be completely ready to throw Jay Masur under a bus. $1,000 a night to provide fire trucks, ambulances and crew from, I guess you expect 3 p.m. to after 11 p.m.? Are we looking at paying people around $10-$15 an hour for that? I'd probably shorten the hours on duty as well.

That's criminal. I'm amazed he could stay aflot at all. BUT, he never said he was in it for the money. I believe that.

You have no idea how I would respond in the same situation, because you don't know me and I would never create the situation he has created. I, however, do know you. And I do hope that track is once again operational in the hands of competent people, because I'm going to visit, get a pit pass and come shake your hand in the pits right where I know you take photos. 

I'll give you a big smile and tell you exacly who I am. We'll see if you've still got the nuts to address me the same way in person.

 


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Posted By: spot1 on May 19 2017 at 08:45:44 AM

So says the biggest piece of shit on this message board. Yes, it pisses me off that another race track has decided to close for good. It should upset you but you're only a fan of you and not the sport, asshole.

If you think Jay Masur was completely innocent in this deal, I feel for you. Jay has damn good people working for him and they make him look good.

Why was Matt Juhl at Knoxville? Why do you think? He's running for points dipshit. Same thing with Lynton, I'll bet. What's real funny here is now seeing you stick up for the Wild Wings cars, oh, that's good you two-faced sob.

Also, I'll bet the crowd at Badlands last Saturday night was more than attended Knoxville. BTW, I walked into the track Saturday night at 6 PM and Med-Star was nowhere to be seen. They didn't show for another 30-45 minutes. Maybe they had a backyard bar-b-que to be at, who knows. They were late. I know what I saw and you are the one that has no clue here, as normal.

Never have said one word to Chuckie and, yes, I think he throws a lot of hissy-fits. But, take a look..........he announces a 2018 schedule and all he sees on this fucking board is bitching about it. We all know how you'd respond if you were in the same shoes.

Why don't you just go back under your bridge or rock or whereever you slither out from?



There are a lot of us upset at the closing of Huset's. Before you accuse anyone of not being a fan of the sport, take a good look at Brennan! Speaking for myself (and I'm sure the majority), I'm not at all sorry to see Brennan get the hell of racing! Just a few short years ago, there was promise in the upper Midwest that 410 racing and racing in general was going to experience growth. Brennan has the "it's not my fault.....blame someone else attitude". Well "news flash"! From the very beginning it was his out of control ego and selfish attitude and failure to cooperate that created the mess that's going on. He is the central figure in all of this. He could have made a difference and been praised for it. Does anyone really think his throwing the extra money around at the race track, or against other racing events was his being generous? That's ego run amok if ever it was on display. It's soon going to be time for Brennan to wise up. Whether it's Huset's or not, there will be racing again in the Sioux Falls market. For a lot less money invested than the price Brennan wants, another facility could be established close enough to the huge fan base the area has to be successful. Then what's his investment worth? And yes! That market will support Sunday night racing done right, and so would race teams!



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Posted By: FORD97 on May 19 2017 at 07:14:16 AM

You know, just because Cody Darrah punched you in your obnoxious little mouth over your tweets doesn't mean that everyone flies off the handle over what happens on social media. That's simply not normal behavior.

Anyone blaming anyone other than Chuck Brennan for the gross incompetence and mismanagement of this entire fiasco is the real idiot in this situation. He was comletely ungraceful on entry into dirt track racing, and he's just as ungraceful on the way out of this pitifully and painfully short disaster.

You have been on the wrong side of history since day 1. Now that it's all over, one would think you'd see that. Almost all the rest of the Chucksucker rats have disappeared off this sinking ship some time ago. Take your cue.



Oh man, you really got me! I really thought we were bros from all those Reports you replied to way back in the day.  

I haven't said anything about Chuck this week until just now. All I was saying is that Jay is not as innocent as he is proclaiming himself to be. And now because of his ego and Chuck's ego, the limited race season is now over. And who knows if another race will ever be held there again. It's so childish it even got to this point and now everyone suffers. 

The track didn't lose its ass last week like you've said. There was anywhere from 4-5k in the stands and a steady line at the concessions stand.

Has Chuck fucked things up since the vote last fall? Yep, on multiple occasions now. I've been praying for a new owner ever since they said it was for sale. But because of people like you who don't like change, this thing was doomed from the beginning. 

Oh by the way, you haven't thanked him for your $4k to win shows this year and the 10 free pit passes and right rear the teams got last week.

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And he paid them for the whole year.

 

 



FORD97
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Oh man, you really got me! I really thought we were bros from all those Reports you replied to way back in the day.  

I haven't said anything about Chuck this week until just now. All I was saying is that Jay is not as innocent as he is proclaiming himself to be. And now because of his ego and Chuck's ego, the limited race season is now over. And who knows if another race will ever be held there again. It's so childish it even got to this point and now everyone suffers. 

The track didn't lose its ass last week like you've said. There was anywhere from 4-5k in the stands and a steady line at the concessions stand.

Has Chuck fucked things up since the vote last fall? Yep, on multiple occasions now. I've been praying for a new owner ever since they said it was for sale. But because of people like you who don't like change, this thing was doomed from the beginning. 

Oh by the way, you haven't thanked him for your $4k to win shows this year and the 10 free pit passes and right rear the teams got last week.

BIG J



If you and Manbitch want to give me credit for closing down the track and getting Lil' Chucky out of racing forever, I guess I'll take it. This thing was doomed from the beginning because of me? You are very much in the minority. Anyone with a brain knows there is only one person to blame. There is only one ego closing the track. That's Lil' Chucky's call.

Let's do some math! Let's be generous and assume a lot of folks paid the full ticket price at the gate and average the ticket price at $30, instead of the discount price at $27.50. Let's put the attendance number right in the middle of your generous estimate at 4,500 people. My math puts that at $135K. There's not a ton of room there past the $100k in silver bars to cover the purse, expenses and taxes. Maybe he broke even. Maybe he made a little profit. He likely has more cash on his person right now than he made on that race. He certainly didn't start to cover whatever constantly changing dollar amount he paid to fix the place up.

Big shows at Huset's used to draw near 10,000 people. I attended a weekly show last year that I'd generously estimate at 1,000. What the heck happened? That all my fault?

Is Lil' Chucky bankrolling the free pit passes and right rears at Knoxville? If not, I'll thank the people who made that shrewd business decision instead. (I already have)

Again, I hope for better things for Huset's, regardless of how blindly loyal some of you have been, and continue to be, to a conman.

 


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Not gonna be a Brennan touter or basher here, but outside of Tony Stewart night 4 years ago, Husets specials hadn't drawn 10,000 people in a long,  long time, 18 to 20 years and I was probably at all of them. CB screwed up countless times in the last 18 months but Sioux Falls area racing was a falling apart, fucked up pile of donkey dung LONG before Brennan hit the scene. Rubinization killed off Lake County Speedway, damn near killed off Rock Rapids and was well on its way to killing off Husets. CB thought he could cure 20 years of Husets and Hartford screwups over night by throwing tons of money at it and quickly found out it wasn't gonna work. Hopefully he drops to Tony Stewart's 6 million price and the sale happens soon.

Any chance of someone leasing Badlands and holding the 2 day WoO show there?



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Posted By: newbeevur on May 19 2017 at 10:50:28 AM

Not gonna be a Brennan touter or basher here, but outside of Tony Stewart night 4 years ago, Husets specials hadn't drawn 10,000 people in a long,  long time, 18 to 20 years and I was probably at all of them. CB screwed up countless times in the last 18 months but Sioux Falls area racing was a falling apart, fucked up pile of donkey dung LONG before Brennan hit the scene. Rubinization killed off Lake County Speedway, damn near killed off Rock Rapids and was well on its way to killing off Husets. CB thought he could cure 20 years of Husets and Hartford screwups over night by throwing tons of money at it and quickly found out it wasn't gonna work. Hopefully he drops to Tony Stewart's 6 million price and the sale happens soon.

Any chance of someone leasing Badlands and holding the 2 day WoO show there?



It would have to be SLS or no one. The WoO won't go with any other sanctioning groups in the vast expanses of the midwest.

BTW, you are more correct than anyone else on this board.

 



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Not gonna be a Brennan touter or basher here, but outside of Tony Stewart night 4 years ago, Husets specials hadn't drawn 10,000 people in a long,  long time, 18 to 20 years and I was probably at all of them. CB screwed up countless times in the last 18 months but Sioux Falls area racing was a falling apart, fucked up pile of donkey dung LONG before Brennan hit the scene. Rubinization killed off Lake County Speedway, damn near killed off Rock Rapids and was well on its way to killing off Husets. CB thought he could cure 20 years of Husets and Hartford screwups over night by throwing tons of money at it and quickly found out it wasn't gonna work. Hopefully he drops to Tony Stewart's 6 million price and the sale happens soon.

Any chance of someone leasing Badlands and holding the 2 day WoO show there?



Just my Opinoin, but if Tony offered $6 mil, I think he'd already own the place.

 



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I love how they tried to play the "whoa is me" card about the negativity generated via social media when they were the ones posting car count comparisons on their scoreboard. Thanks again Chuck for proving us right about how you don't care about racing or those involved. Farewell moron. Hope someone can come in and clean up his mess (although I guarantee it won't be for their asking price)

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Posted By: StanM on May 18 2017 at 06:45:17 PM

I've been around racing for over 55 of my 65 years and nothing has been said on social media that wasn't said in the pits or stands before social media.  Anyone who thinks people are hard on racing hasn't visited some of the Vikings and Wild boards I frequent.  To blame shutting a track down on internet posts absolves management of responsibility.  If the sport is so fragile that the opinions of a few discontents can shut down tracks racing has much bigger problems and is using social media as a scapegoat.  The track was doing fine for years despite an occasional negative post.  Blaming social media for problems caused by poor decisions is one of my pet peeves.



Awesome post Stan. TTU People who blame social media for the whole Badlands empire(use the word loosely) crumbling are complete and utter MORONS. Like the pawn shop, everything was done over the top and priced for the people who have plenty of **** u money. I would say the closings have more to do with a mix of bad business decisions and somebody's butt hurt ego. Mr. Brennan is not needing for money contrary to the "chucksuckers"(can't remember who came up with that term on here?) on this board who stick up for him and try to tell you different. You can't walk two blocks in Vegas without bumping into a DLC and he thru extra prize money at the Vegas WOO's A-Main Winner not too long ago. Kudos to him for throwing his money at the track and throwing some good ol' R&R Bashes, however, there sure were a lot of people with FREE tickets to all the events where the face value of tickets were over the top. Isn't the idea to sell tickets? That's my opinion, but plenty of people in the Sioux Falls area share it. To me the whole Badlands business model may have worked with a little moderation. However I don't think CB knows the meaning? To each their own, but no way in hell is social media too blame. HELL NO. LOL I do know one thing, there are plenty of non race fans in Brandon who want the noise making track gone. They may now get their wish.
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Posted By: FORD97 on May 19 2017 at 08:04:05 AM

It looks like Lil' Chucky isn't the only overly emotional manbitch involved in the situation. Are you completely serious with this rant? Next time you're this upset, put your little face in your pillow and have a good cry before you rant. Maybe have a suck of your Lil' Chucky pacifier?

Keeping a running total on who you blame here: South Dakota voters, Jay Masur, "idiots" on social media? The Mighty Badlands empire was brought low by mean social media posts? Holy shit! 

You are a moron. You have been a moron here for years and you show no signs of letting up. Is it not obvious to you? Drivers and car owners found this to be the last straw and let him know about it. Look through the thread on the Med Star page. You will likely recognize many of the upset people as drivers, now former drivers, at that track. They are the ones who matter, and they had enough. They let him know.

And plenty of drivers had enough before Med Star was canned. Matt Juhl lives in Sioux Falls. Why was he 5 hours away at Knoxville Saturday night? Why did Lynton Jeffrey bring two cars to Knoxville Saturday night. Why did Terry McCarl, who was fully loyal to Chuck last year, stay at home for $4K over a chance for $12K? And that's after cashing a $10K Lil' Chucky check this year. Why did the Wild Wings car make the 5-hour tow to Knoxville over a higher paying show within 10 minutes of the shop? Do these questions register in your head? A loud and clear statement was made. Are you unable to see or hear it from your position on your knees?

If the races were almost cancelled, it was due to a poor crowd. No other excuse. I don't believe Lil' Chucky's timeline on Med Star any more than I trust his constantly changing dollar investment in the track. There are plenty of posts on that page disputing his timeline. The guy is a professional con man and fraud, and has been for years. You got conned, and you continue to be conned by choice. You are pathetic.

He took an absolute bath Saturday night and he was facing more of the same for his limited schedule the rest of the year. Normal, sane, upright citizens do not cancel seasons or shut down businesses over social media posts. If you really believe that crap, you are a bigger clown than I could imagine.

And yes, everyone else is also glad you don't do Facebook, Twitter, or any of that shit. You cleary aren't emotionally mature enough to handle it.



omg lmfao.
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I'm still not sure why it's any of our business. If I owned a business and I paid all the bills associated with running that business it would be my right to pick and choose who I personally feel is going to do the best job for me. Clearly he felt like going in a different direction was the best fit for his business. It happens every day. 



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lol Rock and Roll was here before Chuck and it will be after all his mess. Plenty of shows coming up around here that he has nothing to do with and plenty of past shows around here that he had nothing to do with. I will give ya KBAD, solid station, however it's for sale as well. js
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Awesome post Stan. TTU People who blame social media for the whole Badlands empire(use the word loosely) crumbling are complete and utter MORONS. Like the pawn shop, everything was done over the top and priced for the people who have plenty of **** u money. I would say the closings have more to do with a mix of bad business decisions and somebody's butt hurt ego. Mr. Brennan is not needing for money contrary to the "chucksuckers"(can't remember who came up with that term on here?) on this board who stick up for him and try to tell you different. You can't walk two blocks in Vegas without bumping into a DLC and he thru extra prize money at the Vegas WOO's A-Main Winner not too long ago. Kudos to him for throwing his money at the track and throwing some good ol' R&R Bashes, however, there sure were a lot of people with FREE tickets to all the events where the face value of tickets were over the top. Isn't the idea to sell tickets? That's my opinion, but plenty of people in the Sioux Falls area share it. To me the whole Badlands business model may have worked with a little moderation. However I don't think CB knows the meaning? To each their own, but no way in hell is social media too blame. HELL NO. LOL I do know one thing, there are plenty of non race fans in Brandon who want the noise making track gone. They may now get their wish.


Diiferent technology, same lame arguments that were made about radio, the telephone and television.  wink


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From the NMRA Board

 

Sorry for the link and not the post, I was getting an error when trying to copy the post over.

 

http://nmra.proboards.com/thread/13900/badlands

 



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From the NMRA Board

 

Sorry for the link and not the post, I was getting an error when trying to copy the post over.

 

http://nmra.proboards.com/thread/13900/badlands

 



It has medstars response to all of this.



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Once the expression was:  Two sides to every story, yours and mine.   Later the saying became: three sides to every story; your side, my side, and the truth.  The advent of social media and messages boards the saying now may be: There are four sides to every story: Your side, my side, whatever is posted on social medai, and the truth.   The truth is becoming more difficult to discern. 

 



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Posted By: dakob on May 16 2017 at 08:25:23 PM

Time for everybody to take a deep breath and review this MedStar 'thing'. I do not think todays action was a spur of the moment decision as this Medstar issue has been simmering or festering for a while. I have nothing but contempt for Mr. Brennan for what he did to sprint car racing. He has fractured the sport from within and it will take years if at all to mend all of the scars he has inflicted BUT MedStar had problems long before Brennan was on the scene. Nobody will question that MedStar is a well trained and well equipped team but something has apparently been wrong inside the operation for some time as Knoxville, Jackson and the NSL refused the MedStar services over the last few years and the city of Sioux Falls and Minnehaha County have repeatedly refused to grant a  license to MedStar. I don't remember the specifics but Mr.Masur either threatened or did sue the city of Sioux Falls because his firm did not get the Sioux Falls ambulance business and it went instead to an out of town company. Maybe Mr. Masur should have guarded some of his words the past few years as he might have said the wrong things to the wrong people who have good memories. Whatever the outcome this is a sad day for all involved but we all will survive and continue.



Not to put MedStar down, but they trained the Jackson Motorplex saftey crew, and members from Jackson have traveled with MedStar earlier this season to Florida to work races. It isn't like Jackson refused to have MedStar, the Motorplex has it's own team.



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Once the expression was:  Two sides to every story, yours and mine.   Later the saying became: three sides to every story; your side, my side, and the truth.  The advent of social media and messages boards the saying now may be: There are four sides to every story: Your side, my side, whatever is posted on social medai, and the truth.   The truth is becoming more difficult to discern. 

 



That's not the fault of today's electronic communications devices but the fault of those who are using them.  The internet and social media are nothing more than a fast and easy way to communicate and do business.  I remember back in the mid 90's when the web first started to catch on and everyone on the racing message boards had to be part computer geek to keep the damn things running and patient as hell to deal with the snail like internet connections.  Trying to bring up a photo on the old 1024x768 VGA monitors was a major ordeal that required running for a snack and bathroom break.  Social media as we know it today was still over a decade in the future and the internet was so "seat of the pants" that big companies had yet to jump on board with an online presence.  There were no streaming races because the bandwidth wasn't there and we had to wait until we got home to jump on a computer because tablets and smart phones had not appeared yet.

The positive part of those days was that there was a comaradarie and respect, everyone knew each other by name and board moderators kept the boards more civilized.  Now we've got social media where anyone can say just about anything without repercussion and seems to me that a lot more rough language slips into the threads on the message boards without being deleted.  I'm by no means a prude, working on the flight deck taught me language that would melt a church lady's face, but I do my best to hold it back.  Much easier since I set the beer aside a year ago as a few times drunken rants left a mark on what little reputation I had left.

Anyways, today the boards and social media can be a nasty free for all and I have to remind myself that racing is just entertainment, something to do on a Saturday night.  Evidently reading these comments there are some very bitter people out there just waiting for something to jump on so they can vent their anger.  I feel bad for long time supporters of the track in Sioux Falls but if the same thing happened up here I'd just find a work around and move on.  Hit Jackson or Knoxville once in a while, run out to my closest track Cedar Lake now and then and if chasing races got to be too big of a hassle watch an occasional PPV or find other interests.

It's not worth all the name calling and insults I'm seeing people direct at fellow racing fans.  We never used to see that in online racing forums and I think that's something we all need to seriously think about, how we treat each other on these forums.

 


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Posted By: SamHerring14 on May 18 2017 at 05:21:41 PM

Brennan sounds as sensitive as Trump 



I've been wanting to say that for months, but didn't want to start a political debate

But I would have used different words than "sensitive"....

Hope somebody who understands & cares about racing buys it & all you Upper Midwest guys can be happy & stop arguing





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