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July 26, 2021 at
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So now you think you're Judge Judy? 
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July 26, 2021 at
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$40?????
Thats crazy...
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July 26, 2021 at
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FYI, the track, (Humboldt in this case), sets the ticket prices, GA was $30 NOT $40.
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July 26, 2021 at
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If I understood correctly there were only about 25 seats that were reserved, right in front of the announcers booth, and yes GA was $30. Plenty of good GA seats.
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July 26, 2021 at
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Holy shit after going to sprint car racing for close to 58 years I guess I'm not a sprint car fan because I buy GA wheneven I can Glen Murra
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July 26, 2021 at
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Posted By: railfan33 on July 25 2021 at 08:52:30 PM
And how many cars do you think would be there if it was a WoO race? Not a lot of 410's in Kansas.
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You bring up a good point about not a lot of 410s in Kansas and that is valid. What I will say though, and you did not say or insinuate this but I see it done on social media all the time is this.
If the Outlaws go to an area with low 410 numbers in general then people start trashing on them about not having a good car count. However if the All-stars go to an area and maybe even the same area and have a low count THEN people make the argument about the amount of cars in the area. It's somewhat of a double standard that I see people make all the time where it is ok for one group to have a low count but the other isn't allowed even though conditions are the same. I like both and as I've said, I think both are worth the money to see. 99.9% of the time you don't have to choose one from the other.
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July 26, 2021 at
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Posted By: Kingpin2014 on July 25 2021 at 12:28:38 PM
Wel the only evidence really needed is Reutzal dominated the ASCOC the last 3 years, racked up a lot of wins, and is in 7th in points on the WoO tour. He's picked up a few nice wins to be sure and is fast but just shows the gap.
Now if you want to talk about the entertainment of the show or whatever, that's a subjective thing. I greatly enjoy both ASCoC and WoO races, both are awesome. If I had to chose one over the other for a night to attend, I'd go with the WoO race
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Reutzel has done better in that car than anyone has in a couple decades. I think he was a little faster in the 87 though. 87 was an all-star budget car though, not a WOO budget. I think a lot of people do not realize that is the biggest difference in an all-star or top local team, and a top outlaw team. It's not that these drivers are better because they are now outlaws. It's that they are in cars that have bigger pockets - some have nascar owners and most have corporate sponsorship, money to travel and race as much as they want and money to keep motors and equipment fresh...plus money to hire the best in the biz to turn those wrenches. Sheldon, Macedo and Gravel are top tier WOO drivers now and none of them won a championship while running with the all-stars.
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July 26, 2021 at
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on July 26 2021 at 06:18:47 PM
Reutzel has done better in that car than anyone has in a couple decades. I think he was a little faster in the 87 though. 87 was an all-star budget car though, not a WOO budget. I think a lot of people do not realize that is the biggest difference in an all-star or top local team, and a top outlaw team. It's not that these drivers are better because they are now outlaws. It's that they are in cars that have bigger pockets - some have nascar owners and most have corporate sponsorship, money to travel and race as much as they want and money to keep motors and equipment fresh...plus money to hire the best in the biz to turn those wrenches. Sheldon, Macedo and Gravel are top tier WOO drivers now and none of them won a championship while running with the all-stars.
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Pittman 4th in points in the Roth car in 2019....
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July 26, 2021 at
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I gotta admit, that was funny... 
Even tho you stole it from a movie..
I also buy GA tix most of the time
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July 27, 2021 at
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July 27, 2021 at
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Posted By: revjimk on July 26 2021 at 09:33:48 PM
I gotta admit, that was funny...
Even tho you stole it from a movie..
I also buy GA tix most of the time
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I am content with watching streaming broadcasts seeing as I'll be 70 and dont like the night drives much anymore. When I do go I get a pit pass but I'm not sure where that ranks me as a fan. Not that I really give a damn where I am ranked. This is year 61 watching dirt races so I think they give out extra credit for longevity.
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July 27, 2021 at
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the all stars have made some good business decisions. being on flo is one of them. i've been keeping up with most of their races since it comes with the package. same with usac where i watch just about all of the midget and sprint car races.
hitching their wagon to pa for some of their bigger races is a good move as well. it's a bit backloaded into september whereas the outlaws pop up throughout may-october. they are worth the wait between the dirt classic at lincoln and the 50 at port.
star power is a bit of an issue. courtney might be one of the best drivers in the country so he's helping to carry things. i'd love to see a pa guy run with them regularly and be competitive. i think marks could do it and dietrich was on track before he came back home last year.
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July 27, 2021 at
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I wonder where you're going to the races?
Mostly all I see is white guys with baseball caps.....
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July 27, 2021 at
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Posted By: rpaulson on July 26 2021 at 11:57:18 AM
FYI, the track, (Humboldt in this case), sets the ticket prices, GA was $30 NOT $40.
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You keep facts out of this argument mister. I've made up my mind. Don't you try confusing me with facts.
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July 31, 2021 at
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Posted By: dsc1600 on July 24 2021 at 04:17:31 PM
By what measure are the All stars bigger than the Outlaws? We're not talking preference here, but facts. Purses, crowds, sponsors, social media, Crown Jewels, driver and team quality, all in favor of the Outlaws.
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Action IMO...
Ascot was the greatest of all time..
West Capital wasn't half bad either..
Life is good...
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July 31, 2021 at
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July 31, 2021 at
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on July 24 2021 at 01:45:44 PM
I know I'm in the minority but I prefer the all-stars. They have a really good group of cars and drivers, and are more on par budget and equipment wise with the top local teams in the country. Fantastic race at LOS last night! Hopefully the ASCOC can keep adding big paying shows and keep their talented drivers and team owners. I think it says something when teams like the 18 and 39 decide to head half-way across the country to race with the all stars instead of following the WOO to Williams Grove(from Lernerville).
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You mean those teams heading towards home? Labs is listed as Brownsburg and 18 is somewhere in the midwest.
Been brought up a couples times, but at least 4 of the top 10 in ASCoC points are Outlaw level teams.
Comparing a regional series to a national series is pointless. I wll say WoO did ditch Big Sky Speedway. Sorry Montana, it was a boring track with low car count.
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