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July 18, 2010 at
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Dirtracefan 21...
thanks for making my point...
If the King says it is so...
who can argue with that???
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July 18, 2010 at
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Posted By: soap83 on July 17 2010 at 05:20:44 PM
The object is to make sure you are going to clear the car in front of you before you commit yourself to the slide job, if you make contact then its your fault!
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I agree. It's the guy pulling the sliders responsibility to clear the car in front of him and leave the guy enough room to race, not the slidee's resposibility to lift so he doesn't get hit.
Anything other than what these two have agreed on is what I call, and what it's been called for years is a "a cheap slide job". If the "slidee" has to slam on the brakes to keep from hitting the car that's parked itself in front of him, then that was a cheap slide job; and if the slider gets a tap in return..oh well.
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July 18, 2010 at
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Worst slide job ever, Tyler Walker on Richard Griffin on Manzanita's big track going into turn 3
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July 18, 2010 at
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Posted By: threadkiller on July 18 2010 at 02:24:40 AM
Spoken like a true Sammy Swindell fan - at least you are consistent. The real tragedy is that Kemenah didn't - with whatever energy he had left - beat the living shit out of Wimmer after that deal. Much like Sammy should have been carried out on a stretcher after he took out half the field on the first lap on Friday night at Santa Maria WoO in fall of 1992. Some times people are far more civil than the circumstance at hand really calls for. Quick thinking and good security gave Steve Butler the opportunity to retire in similar circumstances after a "slider gone bad" instead of suffering the fate of an angry mob at an event and track that escapes me but is definitely not a story I'm fabricating for dramatic effect. If you are going to make a move that requires the guy you are attempting to pass to make the decision to lift you should do so with the knowledge that if you don't pull it off - if you don't clear them because you are just so BAD fast - that you stand the risk of getting the shit beat out of you if you screw it up. If this was the standard applied to "slide jobs" it would be a "self policing deal".
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Like I said, for the folks that have never been in any kind of race car, you will never understand.
I am a Sammy fan, but more importantly a motorsport fan. Thanks.
The older I get, the faster I used to be.
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July 19, 2010 at
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Posted By: threadkiller on July 18 2010 at 02:24:40 AM
Spoken like a true Sammy Swindell fan - at least you are consistent. The real tragedy is that Kemenah didn't - with whatever energy he had left - beat the living shit out of Wimmer after that deal. Much like Sammy should have been carried out on a stretcher after he took out half the field on the first lap on Friday night at Santa Maria WoO in fall of 1992. Some times people are far more civil than the circumstance at hand really calls for. Quick thinking and good security gave Steve Butler the opportunity to retire in similar circumstances after a "slider gone bad" instead of suffering the fate of an angry mob at an event and track that escapes me but is definitely not a story I'm fabricating for dramatic effect. If you are going to make a move that requires the guy you are attempting to pass to make the decision to lift you should do so with the knowledge that if you don't pull it off - if you don't clear them because you are just so BAD fast - that you stand the risk of getting the shit beat out of you if you screw it up. If this was the standard applied to "slide jobs" it would be a "self policing deal".
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How about the slide job or whatever you want to call it that Sammy pulled on Andy Hillenburg on the front row entering turn one at the start of the Gold Cup Race of Champions around that same time.Anyone remember that one.I think it was the early 1990's?
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July 19, 2010 at
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July 19, 2010 at
04:24:10 AM by throttlejohnson
I was there as well. It was in 1999, Sammy was in the Channellock car and Hillenburg in the black deuce. I remember as just being a racing incident, they both looked good over the weekend and were going for the same piece of real-estate into turn one, just passed the flag stand. It was the year Sammy was leading on a pre-lim night (thurs) and clipped the tire in 3&4 and handed TK the win. Our old friend Wally was mad and left for the Hotel before the race was even over, now thats a true Sammy fan, and he was.
Miss ya Wally!
And for the record Sammy won both nights at Santa maria in 1992.
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July 19, 2010 at
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Posted By: Ben 31 on July 17 2010 at 12:31:15 PM
Brian Brown into Randy Martin at the 2007 Knoxville 360 Nationals was pretty bad.
If there weren't any slidejobs there might not be much passing on a lot of nights.
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Possibly one of Brown's worst ever. Right up there with Wimmer's. If I remember correctly finishing 2nd would have put Brown on the front row on Sat night. Instead he nearly put Martin over the fence and cost himself a good chance on Sat. The dent in the guardrail between 3 & 4 shows just how Martin got.
There's nothing wrong with a good slider. But you have to give the guy enough room and time to lift and hit the brakes if necessary. A lot of wrecks are caused by the slidee being po'd and not lifting. I've seen it many times at Farmington. A guy executes and good slidejob but then gets hit from behind because the car he passed got mad and just drove into him, many times on purpose.
I disagree with those who say the slidee shouldn't have to lift or touch the brakes at all. As long as he has time to do so and avoid contact I don't see anything wrong. The key is enough time and room. That's the responsibility of the slider.
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July 19, 2010 at
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Posted By: throttlejohnson on July 19 2010 at 04:13:51 AM
I was there as well. It was in 1999, Sammy was in the Channellock car and Hillenburg in the black deuce. I remember as just being a racing incident, they both looked good over the weekend and were going for the same piece of real-estate into turn one, just passed the flag stand. It was the year Sammy was leading on a pre-lim night (thurs) and clipped the tire in 3&4 and handed TK the win. Our old friend Wally was mad and left for the Hotel before the race was even over, now thats a true Sammy fan, and he was.
Miss ya Wally!
And for the record Sammy won both nights at Santa maria in 1992.
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"And for the record Sammy won both nights at Santa maria in 1992" No kidding - I was there and that weekend sucked ass. After what happened Friday night who was going to pass him? Opening lap Friday sent two people to the hospital, eliminated three teams from Saturday, and at least three others spent the night building new cars. IF I had been a Sammy fan on Friday (prior to this incident I really didn't care one way or another) it would have ended that evening. Not just what happened but how he just did not give a SHIT at all about anyone else on the racetrack but himself.
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