Not being welcome is not something drivers share . . . . .

I'm not sure if you're replying to me? But if you are yes, 410 wing sprint. And what did I need?  I had a good car, decent motor and I had a fair idea how to work on it & set it up... what I couldn't do was take chances, and if you're gonna beat the best you have to take chances...every lap.  I could not afford to tear it up. If I told you my salary when I was racing and was able to win some you'd call me a liar and say it's not possible. 

Your last two posts brought up a lot of info most fans are ignorant of. Most will never understand how conservative a racer has to be when they have very limited funding, even though they are competitve they can't afford to tear a car up during a questioable move on the track. I hope you enjoyed your experience that most on here will never even attempt. Do you miss racing and how's life after it?

You will likely see most of the High Limit drivers at Husets because HL left the dates open for Husets and the Nationals.  They have scheduled against both Cedar Lake and Ogilvie where I am most likely to attend.  Much of what you say is true from your perspective.  My only concerns are where are the cars to fill the field going to come from.  Nothing against the Brandon Mullens and Riley Goodnos of the world but I can see them at $25 shows.  Is the scenario of fewer than 24 cars at a WoO race worth attending?  By the way, I like both of the drivers I mentioned but am just trying to make the point that there will be watered down shows in some areas for both series.  I can't see many 410's lleaving their local points races to run either series in this part of the country.  
 

That 17 car field in central Minnesota where they were pulling spare cars out of haulers was an hour and a half from me.  We won't know how this all affects these local dates until they start racing.  My complaint really boils down to some personal deciscions whether the entertainment value of these races will work for me.  The wild card is my neighbors moving up to 410 and where they race, Husets where they ran 305's or the IRA which they mentioned as a possibility.  Speaking of IRA, their schedule on the nights of our local WoO races will be one thing to take into consideration.  Balog apparently announced he is running with the Outlaws so if that is the case things are looking better for our local shows.  
 

Call it watered down, fewer teams or whatever but some areas could potentially be affected more.

It will be interesting to see what "locals" the WoO and HL allow to race. As I understand it just because you have a car does not mean they will let you race. I think the IRA 410 is picky too.

Years back I read where Jake Peters was not allowed to race at a 360 show in Huron SD. Apparantly the promoter, some guy named Orville had taken exception to something Jake had said about him. That's the only time I've ever heard of any car being turned away from a race anywhere.

I am pretty sure that as long as you have a 'legal' 410, you can run it for the Outlwas and HL.  I have not heard of any groups refusing a driver.  Same with IRA.  Sometimes they need the field fillers but I have never heard of anyone getting told no.

Everything you have Stan is exactly right when it comes right down to it?

There will only be a couple of shows that are gonna be worth paying the money for... Otherwise, the field of cars are gonna be. Local cars that you could see at a weekly show for 15 or $20.

Y pay the high price for High Limit or the World of Outlaws To see 4-5 cars that are top notch And the rest former All Star cars or just local cars. I will not do it.

Accept for The big races at Husets I'm Looking that saving my money And Going Out to Indiana.

For  Indiana midget week where I can see a nice field of midgets and non wing Sprint cars.

At multiple tracks in a short period of time And possibly catch.

A few winged showers while i'm out there with the new Maverick series

Pretty sure California racer Cori Andrews was denied a chance to race with the outlaws at Perris back in 2016 and her dad basically start and parked the car that night...despite having top notch legal equipment.  I believe they were worried about experience.  Think she was 19 or 20 at the time.  She was eventually allowed to race later that year with the series.  Also believe that the all-stars asked and paid a race team to park their car before the feature of an IRA/All-star race at Dodge county this past year as well due to safety concerns so it does happen and I believe the series should reserve the right to do so.

NFL and pro basketball survived and prospered with competetion. I don't see any reason why we can't have more top tier drivers other than funding. 

I haven't compared the schedules but will HL teams be able to run very many WoO shows?

You must not have seen Cory Day race, mark my words he will be challenging for wins and Kyle will only run the mid week shows Zeb Wise might suprise you as well he scored his first outlaw win last season in Port Royal's Nittany Showdown. Tyler Courtney is still undecided but if he runs HL he will be a threat to win on any given night as well.

Everything you have Stan is exactly right when it comes right down to it?

There will only be a couple of shows that are gonna be worth paying the money for... Otherwise, the field of cars are gonna be. Local cars that you could see at a weekly show for 15 or $20.

Y pay the high price for High Limit or the World of Outlaws To see 4-5 cars that are top notch And the rest former All Star cars or just local cars. I will not do it.

Accept for The big races at Husets I'm Looking that saving my money And Going Out to Indiana.

For  Indiana midget week where I can see a nice field of midgets and non wing Sprint cars.

At multiple tracks in a short period of time And possibly catch.

A few winged showers while i'm out there with the new Maverick series

NFL and pro basketball survived and prospered with competetion. I don't see any reason why we can't have more top tier drivers other than funding. 

I haven't compared the schedules but will HL teams be able to run very many WoO shows?

You're right about the drivers have a better opportunity to make more money. That is a good thing.

Maybe I am the minority but I liked the World of Outlaws product. When I went to their race, I was going to see the best drivers so I was willing to pay a higher ticket price. That doesn't mean they always have the best race.

When I go to a NHL game, I am expecting to see the best players. Doesn't mean I will see the best game in hockey but I will see the big names. I am not there to see the call ups from the AHL. Not to say I have a problem with them or they can't put on a show, but I didn't pay $90 per ticket to watch someone from the little leagues. 

I raced 360s for five years. I was a nobody but I lived from dream and had a blast. No one went out of their way to see me race (except my family and friends). I was a field filler having fun. We need people like that to show up to races which you are right about for areas where there is a 410 base.

My home track of Cedar Lake Speedway will not have Sweet, Bayston, and Allen at their race in 2024. Abreu was also there last year but he isn't always there. That is a loss of 3-4 cars. Will others replace them? Maybe, but these guys are top tier guys. Will I be excited for the race? Yes. But the fact of the matter is we will see a decrease in the overall quality of cars. 

We need drivers and teams to make the money they need to for survival. The same for tracks and series. Sponsors need to be happy. Fans need to make sure they feel they are getting value for the tickets. 

I am taking my son to a Vikings game. It cost $230 to sit in the upper deck for two people. This is just tickets. Wild tickets vary a lot but it will be about $90 per ticket for a weekend game. I love the value of the Outlaws as for me it is about $40 for tickets. The day 410 sprint cars series charge $75+ for tickets to regular shows, I am out. I feel the value is there now. But what happens when that Flo money runs dry and fans get stuck paying the bill of the Dolly Parton purses? 

Lastly, I agree that 2024 will be a year for young guns to show what they can do. It just sucks that we had a good thing going, we still do, but it will be different. Now a driver says he is racing X tour and half the crowd says he sucks and will drop off by spring. We all love sprint car racing. Seems like it is us vs. them thing now. 

If I counted correctly, High Limit and the WoO are running on the same day 37 times.  That count is for both weekends and mid-week shows. HL has 60 races and the WoO 86?