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larsonfan
November 02, 2023 at 02:25:48 PM
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Posted By: tenter on November 02 2023 at 02:17:15 PM

For the 10,000th time , it's 2 minutes GUARANTEED time, not a 2 minute limit.



Exactly where did I say the word "limit"?

 



Murphy
November 02, 2023 at 05:50:54 PM
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Hey Brad-

I'd suggest you eliminate the two-wide restarts on everything except a complete restart when the first lap isn't completed. It seems to tear up a lot of equipment and it takes away from the drivers who have worked hard to pass someone only to have then restart next them. There's a 50/50 chance that guy will be starting in the faster lane too.

Try this approach. Put the damn cone about one third of the way up in the number 3 corner. Cars line up nose to tail for the restart. The leader gets to set the speed of the restart but he can't take off until he hits the starting line at the cone. As soon as he hits the line, a green light turns on and everybody is allowed to take off. They just need to go outside of the cone.



sprintfanatic
November 02, 2023 at 05:55:08 PM
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Do not let Larson cut across the infield like he did at a race in 2022 and not have to go to the back!




Tony4r
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November 02, 2023 at 06:38:14 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on November 01 2023 at 12:59:23 PM

I'd say that most of us on Hoseheads believe that Brad Sweet and Kyle Larson read posts on here. This post & thread is aimed directly at them. 

Brad- for the betterment of High Limit Racing, and to find out what your fans and potential fans think of your program, set up some sort of official suggestion box. I know, you have a corporate e-mail somewhere that I can send info to where it will sink to the bottom of someone's inbox and never be seen. I'm thinking of something a lot more specific and useful. You could set it up and provide links on racing sites, or work directly with a racing site like Hoseheads. 

Here's the plan-
Submitters will be asked to suggest one idea at a time. Expand on that idea all you want, but stick to one subject. Anything that reads like a manifesto won't get read by anybody anyway. Encourage people who have opinions or ideas on a dozen aspects of HL to submit a dozen seperate, specific e-mails. This will alow you to have someone sort all the ideas into like piles. It will make it easier to see trends and to cull out the crazies. 
I look forward to seeing soemthing soon.
-Thanks



 

     King of the hill among the  10 fastest qualifyers instead of the dash .  Inverted heat races 



oswald
November 02, 2023 at 07:31:02 PM
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Posted By: MandGRacing96 on November 01 2023 at 01:09:43 PM

And enforce rules.....like a competitor stopping on the track and telling officials to put people ahead of other people and then getting their spot back as well.  Just a thought



Exactly right!!!



oswald
November 02, 2023 at 07:37:26 PM
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Posted By: tenter on November 02 2023 at 04:29:49 AM

I'm still thinking that racing is seeing who has the best car/ driver/ setup on any given night. Why does everyone want to penalize the RACER by putting cars that didn't earn the spot , ahead of the person that did?



To make better racing for the fans, unless you like to have plenty of room in the stands because there are only 200 fans at the race!




tenter
November 02, 2023 at 08:45:13 PM
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Posted By: tenter on November 02 2023 at 04:29:49 AM

I'm still thinking that racing is seeing who has the best car/ driver/ setup on any given night. Why does everyone want to penalize the RACER by putting cars that didn't earn the spot , ahead of the person that did?



Chris Madden just said it best after the late model feature tonight. "I don't know why in a professional sport they penalize you for being fast". Refering to redrawing. 



tenter
November 02, 2023 at 08:47:20 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on November 02 2023 at 02:25:48 PM

Exactly where did I say the word "limit"?

 



You said sometimes they let teams take as long as needed.

Your complaint ,not mine.



revjimk
November 02, 2023 at 08:55:57 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on November 01 2023 at 08:59:43 PM

A one at a time example:

Brad- I suggest you do away with time trials. They really don't accomplish anything for 99% of the fans. Instead, draw for heat race positions. Award points for finishing position and passing. For spice, allow the drivers who drew the front row extra points to start in back. You'd have to do some war gaming with the concept to work out the best system. 



I like that idea....




IADIRT
November 02, 2023 at 09:01:18 PM
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Keep your ticket prices reasonable. I'm not here to be the primary source of added funding for these mega purses that these racers "deserve". 



Murphy
November 02, 2023 at 10:01:36 PM
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Posted By: tenter on November 02 2023 at 08:45:13 PM

Chris Madden just said it best after the late model feature tonight. "I don't know why in a professional sport they penalize you for being fast". Refering to redrawing. 



Redrawing for the feature race just isn't right. Husets Speedway redraws for I think, the first 8 spots. They try to make it something exciting while they work on the track. The crowd doesn't get excited about it and the drivers sure don't seem to be excited about it.



hardon
November 02, 2023 at 10:22:01 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on November 01 2023 at 08:59:43 PM

A one at a time example:

Brad- I suggest you do away with time trials. They really don't accomplish anything for 99% of the fans. Instead, draw for heat race positions. Award points for finishing position and passing. For spice, allow the drivers who drew the front row extra points to start in back. You'd have to do some war gaming with the concept to work out the best system. 



That is the smartest thing I've read on here in a while.  Time trials suck.  Just my opinion.




hardon
November 02, 2023 at 10:26:40 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on November 02 2023 at 05:50:54 PM

Hey Brad-

I'd suggest you eliminate the two-wide restarts on everything except a complete restart when the first lap isn't completed. It seems to tear up a lot of equipment and it takes away from the drivers who have worked hard to pass someone only to have then restart next them. There's a 50/50 chance that guy will be starting in the faster lane too.

Try this approach. Put the damn cone about one third of the way up in the number 3 corner. Cars line up nose to tail for the restart. The leader gets to set the speed of the restart but he can't take off until he hits the starting line at the cone. As soon as he hits the line, a green light turns on and everybody is allowed to take off. They just need to go outside of the cone.



Do you remember the outlaw restart?  Not sure why they went away from that, I'd like to see that come back.



PeteP
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November 02, 2023 at 10:30:30 PM
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I like the idea of changing the invert each feature. Roll the dice or pick out of a bag how many rows.

Inverting the heat races is also an interesting idea.

I do like the dashes. The IRA 410 does two dashes. One for the inside row and one for the outside row. Usually 5 cars in each. That seems to make it interesting.

I have seen some races where the driver on the pole does not win. Back in the old days the fast qualifier started in the back. Now days the fields are so tight times wise that it would be very difficult unless there are enough laps and restarts. More points or bigger purse for coming thru the field might lure some racers.



linbob
November 03, 2023 at 12:58:36 AM
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Posted By: tenter on November 02 2023 at 08:45:13 PM

Chris Madden just said it best after the late model feature tonight. "I don't know why in a professional sport they penalize you for being fast". Refering to redrawing. 



If a driver is so freeking fast, have him race against other cars and show us how good he is.  Or is another hot lap session enough?




hiroshimacarp
November 03, 2023 at 06:45:24 AM
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my advice for brad and kyle would be to complete ignore this thread.  they should run the series how they think it should be run since they know better than any of us.  nascar gets into trouble by listening to the fans too much.  name one other sport where the topic of conversation right after is "was it a good game?".  it may speak to the general lack of knowledge people have about racing since they can't break it down like a football or baseball game.  knowledge of those sports is borderline too and most people don't know anything beyond what the betting line or over under is.  nobody knows how to just show up and enjoy the game/race these days.

take inverts for example.  on one planet should the fastest car be punished with a bad starting spot just because it might be more entertaining for us?  why can't we just be impressed with a guy going fast?



BStrawser26
November 03, 2023 at 09:40:35 AM
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Posted By: sprintfanatic on November 02 2023 at 05:55:08 PM

Do not let Larson cut across the infield like he did at a race in 2022 and not have to go to the back!



He had a lot of help being hit in the rear before he caught his car and keep the hammer down to win that night over Schuhart.  That was one heck of a save.

The bigger question is...did the guy on the 4 wheeler have the change his shorts after that?


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

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Nick14
November 03, 2023 at 09:46:13 AM
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on November 03 2023 at 06:45:24 AM

my advice for brad and kyle would be to complete ignore this thread.  they should run the series how they think it should be run since they know better than any of us.  nascar gets into trouble by listening to the fans too much.  name one other sport where the topic of conversation right after is "was it a good game?".  it may speak to the general lack of knowledge people have about racing since they can't break it down like a football or baseball game.  knowledge of those sports is borderline too and most people don't know anything beyond what the betting line or over under is.  nobody knows how to just show up and enjoy the game/race these days.

take inverts for example.  on one planet should the fastest car be punished with a bad starting spot just because it might be more entertaining for us?  why can't we just be impressed with a guy going fast?



Agree 1000%. Do not listen to people that see things through 1 lens. They have more experience in the racing business than a bunch of people on a message board OR the 1000's of idiots on social media. Especially when it comes to things like format, do not listen to anyone who is not or has not been in the racing industry. Use your own instincts. 




Murphy
November 03, 2023 at 12:45:32 PM
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Posted By: hiroshimacarp on November 03 2023 at 06:45:24 AM

my advice for brad and kyle would be to complete ignore this thread.  they should run the series how they think it should be run since they know better than any of us.  nascar gets into trouble by listening to the fans too much.  name one other sport where the topic of conversation right after is "was it a good game?".  it may speak to the general lack of knowledge people have about racing since they can't break it down like a football or baseball game.  knowledge of those sports is borderline too and most people don't know anything beyond what the betting line or over under is.  nobody knows how to just show up and enjoy the game/race these days.

take inverts for example.  on one planet should the fastest car be punished with a bad starting spot just because it might be more entertaining for us?  why can't we just be impressed with a guy going fast?



And they certainly can ignore this thread and ignore anybody else that has any opinion about their business. But, I don't think you'll find too many succesful businesses that ignore what their customers want. In this case, the race teams are Brad's customers and the spectators are the track's and Flo's customers. Given that Brad has shown that he wants to make things better for the teams. That would seem like he'd be open to opinions.

The next time you and your wife go out to dinner, if she asks how your meal was, just tell her she should be happy she got to eat. Good luck.





Murphy
November 03, 2023 at 12:48:44 PM
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Posted By: IADIRT on November 02 2023 at 09:01:18 PM

Keep your ticket prices reasonable. I'm not here to be the primary source of added funding for these mega purses that these racers "deserve". 



What's interesting is that there's all this talk about bigger races and higher paying purses and yet no one has paid lip service to keeping costs in line in quite a while. Soon, you'll need that $23,000 prize to help pay for your $100,000 motor.





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