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egras
April 18, 2021 at 11:59:52 AM
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Posted By: wolfie2985 on April 17 2021 at 09:02:59 PM

Sorry, the seasoned veterans are mostly gone from this board. They would let a guy talk out his a$$ once in a while  without replying with insults. 
I don't deny Larson's and Silva's talent one bit. He's a few Indy car and maybe sports car wins from being the best ever - and he's what?, 26? And Paul Silva has won in everything he touch win a wrench 

Tony surely has more net worth but probably not much more" net worth " in a single car. 
 

And, for the record, on a spring Sunday afternoon in 1985-ish, I watched a kid in a low, low budget 2D lead a bunch of laps before a big dog ran him down. I knew that day that the kid was going somewhere

But, am I a great judge of talent? Nope

Am I a seasoned veteran? yep, since 1983

Do I talk out my a$$ sometimes ? Yep

Did it bother me when Steve Kinser and Doug Wolfgang won more than their fair share of races? Nope

Does it bother me that Kyle Larson wins more than his fair share of races? Yep, can't explain that contrast - maybe it's cuz I'm getting old, I don't know

Do I "bite" and insult someone on this board? Nope - and never will

 

 



I can't explain your contrast either.   Having a difficult time understanding it myself.  So, just to clarify----Steve Kinser, who had far and away the most lopsided advantage of any sprint car driver ever, did not bother you at all when he dominated.  But Kyle Larson does?  Even if your false claims of his endless budget were true, this wouldn't make sense.  

Also, now that I think of what you said about Tony's "net worth in a single car" it gets even less important as to what Tony's net worth actually is.  Tony has MAJOR sponsors plastered all over the fenders, wings, and haulers on top of the large bankroll to back it up.   Kyle has NO major sponsors or endorsements and likely will struggle to get them for years to come.  That is what has always drawn me to Kyle----his ability to jump into anything and make it fast.  The funding of the cars does not even come into play when I judge his talent or career to this point.  He is a little fish in a big pond when it comes to money being spent at any given event he shows up at.  There are some very, very deep pockets out there. They don't even have a backup car ready to pull out of the trailer when he tears one up.  So, I'll say it once again------if you believe money and funding are the biggest part of Kyle's success, you are a poor judge of talent.  Sorry if you take that as an insult.  

Also, Kyle is a long ways away from being the best ever.  However, he could definitely earn that status some day.  He doesn't need to win in an irrelavent Indy car series to achieve this status.  He would just need to keep doing what he's doing for a sustained period of time.  For God's sake Danica won in that pile of garbage.  



revjimk
April 18, 2021 at 12:06:41 PM
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Posted By: egras on April 18 2021 at 11:59:52 AM

I can't explain your contrast either.   Having a difficult time understanding it myself.  So, just to clarify----Steve Kinser, who had far and away the most lopsided advantage of any sprint car driver ever, did not bother you at all when he dominated.  But Kyle Larson does?  Even if your false claims of his endless budget were true, this wouldn't make sense.  

Also, now that I think of what you said about Tony's "net worth in a single car" it gets even less important as to what Tony's net worth actually is.  Tony has MAJOR sponsors plastered all over the fenders, wings, and haulers on top of the large bankroll to back it up.   Kyle has NO major sponsors or endorsements and likely will struggle to get them for years to come.  That is what has always drawn me to Kyle----his ability to jump into anything and make it fast.  The funding of the cars does not even come into play when I judge his talent or career to this point.  He is a little fish in a big pond when it comes to money being spent at any given event he shows up at.  There are some very, very deep pockets out there. They don't even have a backup car ready to pull out of the trailer when he tears one up.  So, I'll say it once again------if you believe money and funding are the biggest part of Kyle's success, you are a poor judge of talent.  Sorry if you take that as an insult.  

Also, Kyle is a long ways away from being the best ever.  However, he could definitely earn that status some day.  He doesn't need to win in an irrelavent Indy car series to achieve this status.  He would just need to keep doing what he's doing for a sustained period of time.  For God's sake Danica won in that pile of garbage.  



I pretty much agree with all if that. Tony has more funding than anyone (probably, can't debate what I don't know), but he's just "better than average" with winged dirt cars. Kyle is a unique talent, wins SO much, but its WAY too early to call him "best ever"...



cynbad
April 18, 2021 at 12:23:36 PM
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Not so much the funding part; but compare the skill set to Donny.  He's quite a talent in a 410 Sprint Car; but what is his Late Model Top 5 finish percentage ?  He's been racing them for years and top dollar team...and yeah; talking out my ars but my .02 !




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May 01, 2021 at 12:05:51 AM
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I only watched the highlight video and didn't slow it down and inspect deeply but it seems that Larson threw the right rear on two consecutive nights. The first night he hip checked his former driver but took himself out and then sends Mason Daniel straight into the wall. That was a pretty scary looking Crash from the video I watched. Anybody see it live?


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sedy
May 01, 2021 at 12:31:22 AM
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Posted By: egras on April 18 2021 at 11:59:52 AM

I can't explain your contrast either.   Having a difficult time understanding it myself.  So, just to clarify----Steve Kinser, who had far and away the most lopsided advantage of any sprint car driver ever, did not bother you at all when he dominated.  But Kyle Larson does?  Even if your false claims of his endless budget were true, this wouldn't make sense.  

Also, now that I think of what you said about Tony's "net worth in a single car" it gets even less important as to what Tony's net worth actually is.  Tony has MAJOR sponsors plastered all over the fenders, wings, and haulers on top of the large bankroll to back it up.   Kyle has NO major sponsors or endorsements and likely will struggle to get them for years to come.  That is what has always drawn me to Kyle----his ability to jump into anything and make it fast.  The funding of the cars does not even come into play when I judge his talent or career to this point.  He is a little fish in a big pond when it comes to money being spent at any given event he shows up at.  There are some very, very deep pockets out there. They don't even have a backup car ready to pull out of the trailer when he tears one up.  So, I'll say it once again------if you believe money and funding are the biggest part of Kyle's success, you are a poor judge of talent.  Sorry if you take that as an insult.  

Also, Kyle is a long ways away from being the best ever.  However, he could definitely earn that status some day.  He doesn't need to win in an irrelavent Indy car series to achieve this status.  He would just need to keep doing what he's doing for a sustained period of time.  For God's sake Danica won in that pile of garbage.  



My only issue besides last night is NOBODY races him hard!!!! Come on Rico is the only one with a pair to run him hard!!! 

Brad does once in a blue moon!! He is like the plague !!!!  lol    Come on Aaron bullyup!!!! lol

 

 

 

 

 

 





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