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March 30, 2021 at
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on March 29 2021 at 05:48:15 PM
Have you ever stood in the infield and watched the cars go into the corners at the Grove? Nobody goes into the corners wide open there, not even hotlaps. If they did they, they would be out of the park before they could even get the car turned. WG still has the biggest 410 races purse wise and the most WOO shows, but as far as a weekly program, it's a shell of what it used to be. The racing is generally lackluster as well. IMO Port is far ahead in facility, racing and weekly fields. Not just 410's but Port is also probably the top super late model track in the country now. WG is lucky to draw full fields of 410's or 358's. It's a far cry from 20 years ago when WG drew all the top 410 teams in central PA, plus 40-50 358's. The tracks size and shape is just not ideal for modern day sprint car racing. Shorten those straights, make the track wider and add some banking to the turns. When that's done, move the 410 pits out of the infield to the area outside turns 1-2. Now you've got a 21st century dirt track!
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Wrong. When it's heavy you can set em up to drive in wide open in TT.
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March 30, 2021 at
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March 30, 2021 at
06:00:11 AM by fiXXXer
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on March 29 2021 at 05:48:15 PM
Have you ever stood in the infield and watched the cars go into the corners at the Grove? Nobody goes into the corners wide open there, not even hotlaps. If they did they, they would be out of the park before they could even get the car turned. WG still has the biggest 410 races purse wise and the most WOO shows, but as far as a weekly program, it's a shell of what it used to be. The racing is generally lackluster as well. IMO Port is far ahead in facility, racing and weekly fields. Not just 410's but Port is also probably the top super late model track in the country now. WG is lucky to draw full fields of 410's or 358's. It's a far cry from 20 years ago when WG drew all the top 410 teams in central PA, plus 40-50 358's. The tracks size and shape is just not ideal for modern day sprint car racing. Shorten those straights, make the track wider and add some banking to the turns. When that's done, move the 410 pits out of the infield to the area outside turns 1-2. Now you've got a 21st century dirt track!
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I stand in the infield for hot laps every week. Either going into 1 or going into 3. I was standing right along the fence going into turn 3 the night Shane Stewart wiped Brian Paulus's bullshit 1 lap track record from the books and he definitely wasn't lifting. Brian Montieth would often run wide open too and that's my point. Not every does it because not every can do it. It's an extremely tough track. Ask Joey Saldana. I talked to him about it a few years back and he said it's like driving into a wall at each corner on entry when the air catches the wing as you pitch the car in then you come off and that guardrail comes up quick but you gotta stay in it if possible to get a good launch for the long straights where car speed is everything. Not carrying enough speed at the end of the straightaway? You're a sitting duck to get slid by the guy behind you.
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March 30, 2021 at
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Ask a few guys that have chaeuffered around that place, if the track is right it's hammer down n breaks.
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March 30, 2021 at
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Posted By: dsc1600 on March 27 2021 at 12:24:49 PM
Kind of crazy that the Grove went 40 years without an All Star victory and now the 4th best all star dominates the local show. What's going on Cubes?
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First night race of year with cushion right around bottom.
Have to hand it to Peck though, ran a lot better in Buch 13 at Grove than Larson did...lol.
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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March 31, 2021 at
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Ask the drivers how fast that guardrail comes up on you coming out of turn 4. Kasey Kane can tell you too, I think that was just a couple yrs ago.
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