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OF COURSE new Covid results are soaring.  13 days to the election.  This is how the Left wants it.

That last statement was from 8/26/20 so 56 days ago still no prcessed tickets.

they did state that with all thats gone on in 2020 theres been logistical delays. Guess thats there way of saying pandemic

Oklahoma was just on news bracing for worst spike after seeing texas shoot up over %80 hospital compacity.

Hope they move the dirt in anyway, as for shoot out with 700+ cars haha kids might be home after christmas this year.

I'm not stoked on this pandemic for the record I haven't been to a track since March 8th...a little pissy right now.

It's been awefully quiet...Am I missing something? How are they going to navigate COVID? 

Called Monday 10:30 am California time. Chili bowl office said they are racing . I will be there. Driving in again from So Cal.

OF COURSE new Covid results are soaring.  13 days to the election.  This is how the Left wants it.

Called Monday 10:30 am California time. Chili bowl office said they are racing . I will be there. Driving in again from So Cal.

I got a chuckle out of your comment because it reminds me of the days before cell phones stopping to call the track a couple hours out to see if they were still on.  Their reply was always yes but then if we didn't get word and made the trip the rest of the way we would often find out it was already raining and looking bad when we called.  They never say it's over until it's over.

It looks like some drama is building. https://www.facebook.com/ChiliBowlNationals

That last statement was from 8/26/20 so 56 days ago still no prcessed tickets.

they did state that with all thats gone on in 2020 theres been logistical delays. Guess thats there way of saying pandemic

Oklahoma was just on news bracing for worst spike after seeing texas shoot up over %80 hospital compacity.

Hope they move the dirt in anyway, as for shoot out with 700+ cars haha kids might be home after christmas this year.

I'm not stoked on this pandemic for the record I haven't been to a track since March 8th...a little pissy right now.

Yea sure... people are going to the hospital & dying just to make Trump look bad

Do you have ANY IDEA how stupid your comment is???

How many of the people listed as a covid stat died from covid?  We have no way of knowing the real number since everyone has a agenda.

In addition, out of those who did unfortunately pass away, how many had at least both feet already in the grave?

But I'm sure you'll question if I have ANY IDEA of how stupid my comments are.

I live in Texas and can assure you the hospitals are no where near approaching 80% capacity.

Not to mention, the stated Covid capacity is an arbitrary number that is then erroneously reported in MSM.

I live in Texas too and I could easily be mistaken, but I think what they actually mean is that the number of Covid patients in hospitals is 80% higher than it was a few weeks ago.   Very true that our hospitals are nowhere near 80% capacity.   

Those answers are easily found by researching in the right places.  There is clearly a large increase in deaths in 2020 vs. 2018 and 2019-----and this is not merely from an increase in population.  In 2018, there were a small amount of excess deaths compared to the average, when adjusted for population during the flu that year as it was a worse than normal season.   It amounted to a few 10's of thousand abnormal deaths during those few months.  Would some of those have died anyways without the flu?  Sure, but the graph depicted a worse than normal uptick in deaths across the US during a tough flu season.  2019 was slightly below the normal threshold and there was also a milder than normal flu season.  Now fast forward to 2020.  While the coronavirus death total stands at 225,000+ deaths, the last I followed this graph, there were excess deaths reported in the 160,000 range.  So, what does this mean?  It means you are correct to say not all of these deaths should be blamed on covid.  They are predicting about 65,000 of them (when I last read the chart---don't know what it says today) would have occurred with or without covid.  But, to say there has not been an increase in death rate would be very inaccurate and without basis.  

So, the real argument becomes---should we be devastating our economy because of this 160,000+ uptick in deaths so far in 2020?  In my eyes, by this point the precautions have been put in place the best they can be, hospitals have had months to prepare for this, and those that are most vulnerable, or their caregivers, have had time to make proper arrangements to keep them as safe as possible.  Our economy cannot withstand rolling shutdowns-----and I am seeing the worst of it in Illinois.  I just finished reading the latest mortality rates for covid by age group.  I am 47.  The risk of me dying from covid at 47 is 1 in 5000 and that includes those of all health levels.  They won't let my kids play high school sports and their risk of dying is 30 in 1,000,000 for the 0-20 age group and that also includes all health levels.  I was supportive of the early measures to quench this and understand what it was we were fighting.  Now we know, precautions have been taken, and it's time to get the economy rolling.  Not saying full speed, but pretty damned close, with full speed right around the corner.  

Unfortunately, we seem to have two very distinct groups of people.  1.  Those who have been influenced where even if healthy and at low-risk, they feel threatened by this to the point where they leave the house scared.   and 2.  Those who still don't believe anything is really going on.  

There is also a very small group #3.  Those who do realize it's real, don't dispute that this is killing at a higher than normal rate, but also have the ability to reason that further extreme mitigation will do much more harm than good---especially leading into winter.  Group 3 is my group.  

Those answers are easily found by researching in the right places.  There is clearly a large increase in deaths in 2020 vs. 2018 and 2019-----and this is not merely from an increase in population.  In 2018, there were a small amount of excess deaths compared to the average, when adjusted for population during the flu that year as it was a worse than normal season.   It amounted to a few 10's of thousand abnormal deaths during those few months.  Would some of those have died anyways without the flu?  Sure, but the graph depicted a worse than normal uptick in deaths across the US during a tough flu season.  2019 was slightly below the normal threshold and there was also a milder than normal flu season.  Now fast forward to 2020.  While the coronavirus death total stands at 225,000+ deaths, the last I followed this graph, there were excess deaths reported in the 160,000 range.  So, what does this mean?  It means you are correct to say not all of these deaths should be blamed on covid.  They are predicting about 65,000 of them (when I last read the chart---don't know what it says today) would have occurred with or without covid.  But, to say there has not been an increase in death rate would be very inaccurate and without basis.  

So, the real argument becomes---should we be devastating our economy because of this 160,000+ uptick in deaths so far in 2020?  In my eyes, by this point the precautions have been put in place the best they can be, hospitals have had months to prepare for this, and those that are most vulnerable, or their caregivers, have had time to make proper arrangements to keep them as safe as possible.  Our economy cannot withstand rolling shutdowns-----and I am seeing the worst of it in Illinois.  I just finished reading the latest mortality rates for covid by age group.  I am 47.  The risk of me dying from covid at 47 is 1 in 5000 and that includes those of all health levels.  They won't let my kids play high school sports and their risk of dying is 30 in 1,000,000 for the 0-20 age group and that also includes all health levels.  I was supportive of the early measures to quench this and understand what it was we were fighting.  Now we know, precautions have been taken, and it's time to get the economy rolling.  Not saying full speed, but pretty damned close, with full speed right around the corner.  

Unfortunately, we seem to have two very distinct groups of people.  1.  Those who have been influenced where even if healthy and at low-risk, they feel threatened by this to the point where they leave the house scared.   and 2.  Those who still don't believe anything is really going on.  

There is also a very small group #3.  Those who do realize it's real, don't dispute that this is killing at a higher than normal rate, but also have the ability to reason that further extreme mitigation will do much more harm than good---especially leading into winter.  Group 3 is my group.  

Correct...The over year deaths in America are up almost 300k to date in 2020. That number is easily documented. But unfortunately, there are fools out there that only hear what they want to hear.

For the Texas naysayers, El Paso ER rooms are at max capacity and patients are being flown out.

Keep playing the game of denial and you will get bit.

Correct...The over year deaths in America are up almost 300k to date in 2020. That number is easily documented. But unfortunately, there are fools out there that only hear what they want to hear.

For the Texas naysayers, El Paso ER rooms are at max capacity and patients are being flown out.

Keep playing the game of denial and you will get bit.