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August 14, 2020 at
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Posted By: Hooper31 on August 14 2020 at 08:37:21 AM
I've commented in other threads about his slide jobs. There's a line between "dirty" and "clean". He errs on the side of dirty in my opinion. He doesn't have a problem with throwing his car in front daring people to hit him. Rico is more likely to do it as well, but Larson does it WAY more often.
The circumstances are ripe for this. Larson doesn't have to live with these guys. He's here temporarily and will move on. You never see any of the fulltime Outlaws pull that as brazenly as Larson does. The last time I remember it happening that badly was Shane Stewart in front of Gravel two years ago at Eldora. Stewart apologized publicly in his post race interview saying "I don't want to win like that". Larson doesn't seem to care. He has a win at all costs mentality. Full time Outlaws likely still have Jason Johnson's memory firmly planted in their heads. They realize that Larson is putting their lives in danger at a degree they aren't comfortable with. That's the reputation he seems to be comfortable with.
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Interesting you bring up Jason Johnson, and yet JJ also pulled some dirty moves on Schatz to with the Nationals in 2016. Schatz himself called JJ out on it after the race, and yet everyone loved JJ for it. If any of the full time Outlaws have a problem with Larson, it's because he can beat them any time he shows up.
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August 14, 2020 at
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Posted By: sadiesue on August 14 2020 at 11:23:23 AM
Theres one way to cure some driver from doing this don't slow down.
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There used to be another way drivers were cured from doing this. It usually happened in the pits after the race. Nowadays it gets you a suspension.
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August 14, 2020 at
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Posted By: dsc1600 on August 14 2020 at 12:04:20 AM
I wonder how much McCarls oil leak impacted tonight? First Pittman spins and then Eliason. Kind of weird to have random spins at the front of the field right after someone starts leaking oil.
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I was wondering about that too.
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August 14, 2020 at
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on August 14 2020 at 11:34:52 AM
Interesting you bring up Jason Johnson, and yet JJ also pulled some dirty moves on Schatz to with the Nationals in 2016. Schatz himself called JJ out on it after the race, and yet everyone loved JJ for it. If any of the full time Outlaws have a problem with Larson, it's because he can beat them any time he shows up.
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True but when it's the last lap of a race that pays 150G, I think it's expected that a driver going for the win is gonna be a more aggressive than normal. When there's still plenty of laps left and not nearly as much money on the line? Not so much. I've always been of the opinion that it's the responsibility of the driver executing a slide job to clear the car he's passing. Kind of an unwritten rule.
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August 14, 2020 at
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on August 14 2020 at 12:59:10 PM
There used to be another way drivers were cured from doing this. It usually happened in the pits after the race. Nowadays it gets you a suspension.
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Yea thaat would be saafer.
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August 15, 2020 at
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on August 14 2020 at 05:32:21 AM
And who exactly has he crashed or taken out? And it was only a week ago that he nearly got taken out by his buddy Rico. It's called hard racing....
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Update?
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August 15, 2020 at
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on August 14 2020 at 11:34:52 AM
Interesting you bring up Jason Johnson, and yet JJ also pulled some dirty moves on Schatz to with the Nationals in 2016. Schatz himself called JJ out on it after the race, and yet everyone loved JJ for it. If any of the full time Outlaws have a problem with Larson, it's because he can beat them any time he shows up.
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I mentioned JJ only because he died. His death wasn't caused by a dirty slide job. The contact he had with Pittman on that start wasn't malicious. He died because of the speed. I bring up JJ only because his death is a reminder that your actions might have an impact on who lives and who dies. The sport is plenty dangerous enough as it is. Playing fast and loose with someone else's life is irresponsible.
I fully agree that JJ won that Nationals by putting Schatz's life at risk. I think Schatz had every right to be pissed. Not everyone loved JJ for it. That's a mistake to assume your opinion is the norm. I believe Larson doesn't have a problem putting others' lives at risk for his own benefit. There's an acceptable line, and he doesn't mind crossing it. Some fans will cheer him for it. Others will call him a dirty driver.
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August 15, 2020 at
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Posted By: Hooper31 on August 15 2020 at 08:58:22 AM
I mentioned JJ only because he died. His death wasn't caused by a dirty slide job. The contact he had with Pittman on that start wasn't malicious. He died because of the speed. I bring up JJ only because his death is a reminder that your actions might have an impact on who lives and who dies. The sport is plenty dangerous enough as it is. Playing fast and loose with someone else's life is irresponsible.
I fully agree that JJ won that Nationals by putting Schatz's life at risk. I think Schatz had every right to be pissed. Not everyone loved JJ for it. That's a mistake to assume your opinion is the norm. I believe Larson doesn't have a problem putting others' lives at risk for his own benefit. There's an acceptable line, and he doesn't mind crossing it. Some fans will cheer him for it. Others will call him a dirty driver.
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I'm somewhat in agreement with you. Larson can be a bit wild some times, and often he pays the price for it himself. I do think the move on Schucart wasn't necessary, and would expect any driver wouldn't be happy with it. I just think every driver does that at some point, which is why I brought up JJ after you did. JJ was one of my favorites and I was thrilled that he pulled it off, but the way he did it was dangerous.
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August 15, 2020 at
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on August 15 2020 at 09:07:57 AM
I'm somewhat in agreement with you. Larson can be a bit wild some times, and often he pays the price for it himself. I do think the move on Schucart wasn't necessary, and would expect any driver wouldn't be happy with it. I just think every driver does that at some point, which is why I brought up JJ after you did. JJ was one of my favorites and I was thrilled that he pulled it off, but the way he did it was dangerous.
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August 15, 2020 at
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People need to watch the sprint carts or caged carts or whatever that Kyle and Rico started out in. They run into each other all of the time. I've seen Rico tear up some equipment with sloppy sliders in the midget division as well as Larson. Those guys are aggressive drivers and are exciting to watch that is how they were brought up racing, I guess its ok as long as they don't whine about being on the wrong end of a bad slider. I think drivers have good memories about who hasn't raced them clean.
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August 15, 2020 at
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On another note, how many yellows can Kyle Offill, Tory Knutson and Kevin Ingle cause In one weekend? I counted 8 or 9,
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August 16, 2020 at
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on August 14 2020 at 05:32:21 AM
And who exactly has he crashed or taken out? And it was only a week ago that he nearly got taken out by his buddy Rico. It's called hard racing....
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I gotta agree. I can't remember him taking anyone out of a race in recent memory. He's definitely the most aggressive driver out there-----one notch above Sheldon
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August 16, 2020 at
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Posted By: Hooper31 on August 13 2020 at 11:38:37 PM
Larson needs a new nickname. Dude is a dirty driver. You DON'T have room to slide a guy if your hitting his front end with your tail. Becoming a common place event for this guy.
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And the other guy didn't have any brakes Glen Murra
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August 17, 2020 at
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Posted By: egras on August 16 2020 at 04:40:56 PM
I gotta agree. I can't remember him taking anyone out of a race in recent memory. He's definitely the most aggressive driver out there-----one notch above Sheldon
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Larson wrecked Spencer Bayston on Friday. Bayston came in last place and Larson finished second.
Weren't you there ??????
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August 17, 2020 at
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It was an eye opener how full the place looked with 7000 people (plus kids). Goes to show most events at Knoxville draw A couple thousand at most because the stands for the weekly shows and even Outlaw shows outside of the Nats never look that full.
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August 17, 2020 at
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Posted By: onporch on August 17 2020 at 06:36:19 AM
Larson wrecked Spencer Bayston on Friday. Bayston came in last place and Larson finished second.
Weren't you there ??????
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I was there. Are you saying Larson decided the only way he was going to get by Bayston was to run him up the track and squeeze him against the wall? He was trying to stay as low on the track as possible, caught the berm wrong, his front wheels came off the ground and in a split second, shot him across the track. He didn't attempt any dirty move there. If I was Bayston, I would have been pissed. However, Kyle did not want that part of the track in that moment and made no attempt to take that spot in that way. He just shot up the track. I'm assuming by your logic Eliason made a dirty move taking out Sweet and Donny on Thursday night? Or did he just get sideways and collect them? Big difference in the Larson/Bayston deal and what was being discussed here.
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August 17, 2020 at
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Don't dare change anything... It's not the Nationals if everyone who chooses to compete can not do so!
This was a reall y good show but it don't have the build up, the drama or the Mystique that the Knoxville Nationals has.
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August 17, 2020 at
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If y'all want to see how not to pull off a slidejob find the video of Hewitt & McSpaden at Eldora. CRA in the early 90's.
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Posted By: egras on August 17 2020 at 07:57:11 AM
I was there. Are you saying Larson decided the only way he was going to get by Bayston was to run him up the track and squeeze him against the wall? He was trying to stay as low on the track as possible, caught the berm wrong, his front wheels came off the ground and in a split second, shot him across the track. He didn't attempt any dirty move there. If I was Bayston, I would have been pissed. However, Kyle did not want that part of the track in that moment and made no attempt to take that spot in that way. He just shot up the track. I'm assuming by your logic Eliason made a dirty move taking out Sweet and Donny on Thursday night? Or did he just get sideways and collect them? Big difference in the Larson/Bayston deal and what was being discussed here.
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Egras,
I have no idea what Larson was thinking on Friday during the restart. I believe Eliason hit an oil spot and lost traction but that is just my opinion.
I am a bit confused by your comments about Larson. Sunday you mentioned "I can't remember him taking anyone out of a race in recent memory. " But you seem to know all of the details and acknowledge that Larson wrecked Bayston on Friday and took him out of the race.
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