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Nick14
March 01, 2020 at 01:56:45 PM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on February 29 2020 at 04:24:16 PM

The problem with this bug along with all the other ones Nick mentions is the media hype.   In another week or two they'll be talking about something else.  



While yes the media will hype it up & continue to report on it until the next big event, I don't necessarily put the reason as to why people are talking about it on them fully. I think the past several years that has just been the easy out for some to blame it on media instead of blaming it on who it should be blamed on. Human beings, specifically uninformed human beings.

So far from what I have seen reported has been factual, however the delivery of the reporting & tone isn't one that I would use. The reaction that people who receive this news you would think we are in the movie Outbreak. If there is a disease or epidemic which this is, it should be reported, and even said that death is a possibility because it is. However, people need to realize that death is possible with the flu if not treated. Whenever things like this it's human beings that start blowing it out of proportion and instead of asking doctors or scientist, people start going on satire sites to see what some witch doctor has had to say. If you get the virus, take it seriously, keep away from others as you should with any virus, disinfect, see a doctor especially if you have issues breathing. This is stuff that you should do no matter if it's this virus or a cold



Murphy
March 01, 2020 at 02:16:48 PM
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Posted By: kossuth on March 01 2020 at 11:48:14 AM

The difference is in the percentages. The common flu kills approximately .1% of those it infects. This thing to date has killed approximately 2% of its victims with from what I've seen at least a 15% mortality rate for those above the age of 80.  Say this thing actually spreads as we fear and it infects 4 million people that's 80,000 dead.  

Your a damned fool if you just brush it off because this can be real serious if it breaks out  

 



     I'm not disputing what you're saying, but since you've brought up percentage; what do you suppose the mortality rate is for people over 80 who get the flu?



kossuth
March 01, 2020 at 03:01:41 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on March 01 2020 at 02:16:48 PM

     I'm not disputing what you're saying, but since you've brought up percentage; what do you suppose the mortality rate is for people over 80 who get the flu?



Approximately the same, 80%. The big differences though. The traditional flu generally has a vaccine whereas this at present does not.  The traditional flu would take down 80% of the elderly because they either didn't take a vaccine or had compromised immune systems. This virus is killing 80% even those that are elderly but healthy. Also due to the lack of a vaccine and how contagious the virus coupled with its ability to remain viable outside a host for a significant time (I've read it's about 9 days) is it's quite feasible this can also neutralize healthcare workers.

I don't know if you saw this or not but there is a possible outbreak at a nursing home in Washington state. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/01/health/washington-state-possible-coronavirus-outbreak/index.html

I don't want to be a fear monger but to take it lightly is foolish.

Getting back to the original thread could it affect Sprint car events?  Quite possibly if there has been a significant outbreak in and around that region.  Would you attend the Knoxville Nationals if say 25% of the local people in and around Knoxville come down with this?




egras
March 01, 2020 at 08:07:32 PM
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Posted By: kossuth on March 01 2020 at 11:48:14 AM

The difference is in the percentages. The common flu kills approximately .1% of those it infects. This thing to date has killed approximately 2% of its victims with from what I've seen at least a 15% mortality rate for those above the age of 80.  Say this thing actually spreads as we fear and it infects 4 million people that's 80,000 dead.  

Your a damned fool if you just brush it off because this can be real serious if it breaks out  

 



I agree.  I am thinking best case scenario is we keep this from spreading fast----with cancellations of big events, schools, etc. and we HOPE the warmer late-spring and summer months kill it off.  Unfortunately, it has spread to the southern hemisphere which is going to be having winter soon.   This likely means another round in the fall/winter.  

I don't know how this is going to work out, but I am seriously expecting sporting events to be getting cancelled in this country very soon.  The reason we are talking about 3000 dead right now and not 100,000 dead is because China shut the country down.  If we carry on like usual, this thing will spread like wildfire.  Expect the very real possibility that some of our lives are about to be disrupted.  



fairlane
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March 02, 2020 at 06:51:57 AM
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They have cancelled the first 2 rounds of MotoGP (motorcy les) in Qatar and Thailand,they listed travel restrictions was the cause,.



egras
March 02, 2020 at 08:15:04 AM
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Posted By: fairlane on March 02 2020 at 06:51:57 AM

They have cancelled the first 2 rounds of MotoGP (motorcy les) in Qatar and Thailand,they listed travel restrictions was the cause,.



And, let's be real here-----whether the threat is immediate or not, some of these events are going to start getting cancelled because of fear of lack of attendance.  They can't lose money just to run events.  




StanM
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March 02, 2020 at 09:02:30 AM
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While I'd like to blame media hype my memories of people I've known from the WWI generation that survived the Spanish Influenza of 1918 haunt me.  A couple of them told stories about horse drawn wagons going down the main streets picking up bodies.  Those people from that age group are all gone now but they were in their 70's and 80's when I was in my 20's and 30's.


Stan Meissner

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March 02, 2020 at 09:17:05 AM
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Honest question, will we see any affect on XXX chassis/products and Eagle Helix chassis delivery due to this? Sprint car racing now has a global presence like it or not. 



egras
March 02, 2020 at 11:25:17 AM
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Posted By: StanM on March 02 2020 at 09:02:30 AM

While I'd like to blame media hype my memories of people I've known from the WWI generation that survived the Spanish Influenza of 1918 haunt me.  A couple of them told stories about horse drawn wagons going down the main streets picking up bodies.  Those people from that age group are all gone now but they were in their 70's and 80's when I was in my 20's and 30's.



Very true Stan.  We are all spoiled brats in this country as we have not had to deal with anything like this in our lifetime.  This does not appear to be anything like that Pandemic thank God.  But, it is still MUCH deadlier than the yearly influenza.  Even if this all shakes out to a .5-1% mortality rate---which I think it will-----this is still 5 to 10 times deadlier than the worst seasonal influenza rates.  And, it will be much deadlier than any of the other Pandemics we have seen since the 1918 flu.  

If this doesn't die with humidity and warm weather, it is going to send out economy into a recession in short order----if it's not already heading there now.  

 




revjimk
March 02, 2020 at 06:20:05 PM
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Posted By: SamHerring14 on February 29 2020 at 12:07:14 PM

Don't worry, our expert in charge says it's all a hoax 



Good one.... wink



sonoranrat
March 02, 2020 at 06:44:36 PM
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The XXX chasis cars have been moved to an isolated pit area. 

 



Dryslick Willie
March 02, 2020 at 06:55:01 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on March 02 2020 at 06:20:05 PM

Good one.... wink



Actually the expert in charge has never said it's a hoax.   




oswald
March 02, 2020 at 08:19:27 PM
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Actually I believe it was the NewEngland Journal of Medicine that said it may not be any worse than the flu. Which as we know kills many people a year. Pres. Trump did not say it was a hoax. As usual the media is blowing things totally out of proportion  



egras
March 02, 2020 at 08:32:55 PM
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Posted By: oswald on March 02 2020 at 08:19:27 PM

Actually I believe it was the NewEngland Journal of Medicine that said it may not be any worse than the flu. Which as we know kills many people a year. Pres. Trump did not say it was a hoax. As usual the media is blowing things totally out of proportion  



That may be the case----we can all hope anyways.  All indications are it is more deadly.  However, I am sure there is some gross under-reporting of mild cases that has gone on in China and Iran.  I think what we are seeing in South Korea, Japan, and right here in the U.S. might give us a good picture of the severity.  



revjimk
March 02, 2020 at 09:14:23 PM
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This message was edited on March 02, 2020 at 09:15:28 PM by revjimk

KInda sorta:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

 




revjimk
March 02, 2020 at 09:28:26 PM
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No need to panic, but it would be stupid & irresponsible for "the authorities" (Medical Professionals!) not to take precautions. It could get worse. As somebody said, flu killed anywhere from 40 to 100 million in 1918. 1.7% of world population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

Gotta see what happens, I'm not overly worried yet.... went to my first sprint car race of the year at Lincoln Sunday, cool sunny day, everything groovy, nobody wearing any masks. Dylan Cisney (Port Royal regular) won his first race ever at Lincoln. Brian Monteith ran away in his heat, In the Feature passed everybody from about 6th & was running away with that too, when he spun out, did a 360, got passed by a bunch of cars but kept going, still managed to finish 3rd. That was impressive



Keyboard Jockey
March 03, 2020 at 11:15:31 AM
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Posted By: sonoranrat on March 02 2020 at 06:44:36 PM

The XXX chasis cars have been moved to an isolated pit area. 

 



I hope they have high visibility cones marking the area and if you leave the isolation area you are immediatly disqualified!



captrat
March 03, 2020 at 03:15:11 PM
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Don't forget to blame it on USAC. �




oswald
March 03, 2020 at 04:26:56 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on March 02 2020 at 09:14:23 PM

KInda sorta:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

 



Snopes is a very left leaning website. Not really unbiased .



oswald
March 03, 2020 at 04:28:31 PM
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Posted By: egras on March 02 2020 at 08:32:55 PM

That may be the case----we can all hope anyways.  All indications are it is more deadly.  However, I am sure there is some gross under-reporting of mild cases that has gone on in China and Iran.  I think what we are seeing in South Korea, Japan, and right here in the U.S. might give us a good picture of the severity.  



I think something like 18000 died of the flu last year.





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